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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: fresh313]
    #5617925 - 05/11/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Many members have claimed that it is highly immoral (and offensive to the Shroom God) to make a profit on such a sacred substance. Is that not a valid topic for discussion?


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5617933 - 05/11/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Ripping off implies fraud or theft which did not occur. If both parties agree to a price (this is called bargaining), why is that problematic for you?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff

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A ripoff (or rip-off) is a bad deal. Usually it refers to an incident in which a person pays too much for something. A ripoff is distinguished from a scam in that a scam involves wrongdoing such as fraud; a ripoff, on the other hand, is in the eye of the beholder.




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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5617951 - 05/11/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I agree witth this, it is highly offensive to the Shroom Gods; sale of a sacred substance...It should be given with Love and to help people explore there minds and bodies...you should be weary who you give them to, not everyone should experience mushrooms or may not be time for them to start.
I say grow your own substances and share with only close friends and family.BE SAFE!!! :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:
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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Silversoul]
    #5617957 - 05/11/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

A purchaser checks the goods and they are of the weight and paterial as claimed. He is aware of the price. He is free to purchase or go elsewhere. There was no rip-off.

Is $10 an eight also a rip-off according to you? If not; why not? What price point qualifies?


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5617974 - 05/11/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Sporetacus said:
Many members have claimed that it is highly immoral (and offensive to the Shroom God) to make a profit on such a sacred substance. Is that not a valid topic for discussion?




there are no morals and theres no shroom god


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5617983 - 05/11/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What do you think ?


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: superbob57]
    #5617995 - 05/11/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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it is highly offensive to the Shroom Gods; sale of a sacred substance




Because...? Is sale of a sacred apple also offensive? Do you work for zero compensation?


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5618003 - 05/11/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Is $10 an eight also a rip-off according to you? If not; why not? What price point qualifies?




:smirk:

You said "price point".

Ahem. :grin:

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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: fresh313]
    #5618008 - 05/11/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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there are no morals and theres no shroom god





And hence no valid topics for S&P discussion. It's been nice meeting y'all.  :heart: You may go home now.


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: superbob57]
    #5618024 - 05/11/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It is time for a Sporetacus "Offend the Shroom God Challenge". Five volunteers will unknowingly ingest super high-priced shrooms and five will ingest 'free' shrooms. By the subsequent trip reports we should be able to determine which trippers had which.


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5618027 - 05/11/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Sporetacus said:
A purchaser checks the goods and they are of the weight and paterial as claimed. He is aware of the price. He is free to purchase or go elsewhere. There was no rip-off.

Is $10 an eight also a rip-off according to you? If not; why not? What price point qualifies?



All I was doing was correcting you on the definition of a ripoff. Personally, I tend to judge whether something is a ripoff based on how far it deviates from the standard price. Now, $50 for an eighth is twice as much as I usually pay, so to me, it would indeed be a ripoff. If everyone were charging $50 an eighth, then it would not be.


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5618032 - 05/11/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Sporetacus said:
It is time for a Sporetacus "Offend the Shroom God Challenge". Five volunteers will unknowingly ingest super high-priced shrooms and five will ingest 'free' shrooms. By the subsequent trip reports we should be able to determine which trippers had which.



If I "unknowingly" take high-priced mushrooms, doesn't that mean it's free for me?


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Silversoul]
    #5618041 - 05/11/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Please come up with a better way to test the Shroom God's emotional state as it relates to commerce.


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5618043 - 05/11/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Isn't it all about compassion, again ?
Lack of it leads to free market and the morals of money ?


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5618048 - 05/11/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I would think it has more to do with the karma that the dealer gets for selling them at that price.


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Sporetacus]
    #5618050 - 05/11/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If someone was actually bragging about selling them for that much I pitty them more than those who bought from them. Atleast those who bought the stuff actually profited from the transaction. Those who sell mushrooms for 50 dollars actually lost something.


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Silversoul]
    #5618060 - 05/11/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Now, $50 for an eighth is twice as much as I usually pay
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Does the Shroom God check how much you pay to decide if he should be angry or not?

Do you believe in a free market?


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5618063 - 05/11/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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BlueCoyote said:
Isn't it all about compassion, again ?
Lack of it leads to free market and the morals of money ?



Compassion is not incompatible with a free market. Putting a price on something helps regulate it so that there aren't surplusses or shortages like the Soviet Union had. Of course, a black market is a bit different than a free market, and that obviously led to a shortage, which allows this dealer to get away with outrageous prices.


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: stemmer]
    #5618074 - 05/11/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What is the price of the work(hours) you put into each eighth.

So what does that translate to? Minimum wage * hours? Current 'real' job wage * hours? Current 'real job' wage * hours plus extra for possible bail, lawyer fees, court costs and time in jail?

Please share the morally 'correct' formula.


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Re: High-priced shrooms [Re: Silversoul]
    #5618080 - 05/11/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If I were to base my shroom trips over all worth in currency 1 trip is worth 10 dollars, your 1/8 for 50 may only provide me with a half trip, half trips are only worth 5 dollars. 10 dollars is the ammount of shroom god I see, shroom gods whole = 10 dollars, half trip = 5 dollars = only shroom gods back. 50 dollars for half trip + 100 dollars for whole trip = no such thing as we have already set that shroom gods total = 10 so we must go into the negative quantitys which = bad trip = no shroom god = ego tripping. $50 1/8 = -$40 = bad trip = rip off.

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