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OfflineSkanksta
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HELP!! Constant mild flashback??
    #561700 - 02/24/02 06:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hey peeps,
I've done shrooms on about 6 different occasions:
2 trips on 2 consecutive days
3 trips on 3 consecutive days
and one other trip, 2 weeks ago.
I now have a kind of constant, very mild flashback... everything i look at
seems to glimmer slightly, i don't know any other way to describe it, and if I stare
at stuff like pictures or patterns for say 15-20 seconds in a certain way i see the image kind of come apart and drift about, in a very shroomed-like fashion. I'm getting quite worried about my mental health.... I usually feel pretty sane and i don't think there is a history of mental illness in my family. Has anyone else had this/know something about it?? If so please tell me...

Thanks


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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: Skanksta]
    #561723 - 02/24/02 06:54 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yup, I have the same thing. I can make a surface bubble and breath or just move in patterns when I stare at it for half a minute. Works best with surfaces with an even color and some slight relief/pattern like ceilings or your desk.

I've had it for over a year now, but it doesn't worry me. I just think your mind has experienced new ways to interpret images under the influence of shrooms and when you concentrate you can make your mind do the same trick again. Nothing wrong with that imho. It's not like I have uncontrolled flashbacks or I start acting paranoid :smile:


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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: Skanksta]
    #561743 - 02/24/02 07:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yes i know lots of people who claim they expierence this.

Why does it scare you?


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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: Skanksta]
    #561822 - 02/24/02 08:36 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

geez.... go buy some niacinamide at the healthfood store... 250 mg 4x/day with meals... ground out those loose psychic energies...


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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: Skanksta]
    #561904 - 02/24/02 10:19 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Flashbacks are like freebies, just enjoy them!

When I did a lot of Acid in college , I was worried that for days after a trip I wouldn't feel right. I think it was my body getting back to normal.
With shrooms, I dont get this flashback experience , then again, I dont do shrooms often, or at high doses.

Unless your getting pain, or severe interference with daily routine activity, I wouldn't worry.

OoD


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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: Skanksta]
    #562120 - 02/25/02 03:50 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

The technical term for your discomfort, it seems, is HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder). The long and the short of it is that some people, after using psychedelics, seem to have persisting visual phenomena related to the tripping experience (ie, "permatrip"). If you really want to scare the shit out of yourself, search for it and read up a little bit. If not, here's my two cents:

The mechanism for "HPPD" is unestablished, and the symptoms seem rather amorphous and varied. One theory that posits organic damage to the brain suggests that HPPD might be caused by damage to inhibitory neurons in the visual cortex. It's very, very far from proven. Moreover, any person can simulate the effects of HPPD simply by concentrating on making them happen.

My theory is that people's brain's simply learn a few "tricks" from psychedelics, allowing the users to slip into trippy-seeming states with relative ease. Some people freak out about it and work themselves into a general frenzy, for no real good reason. Don't sweat it, but space out your trips! A lengthy break might even be in order. Get your bearings back before you jump into tripping again---it's supposed to be a fun, enlightening pursuit, not one that makes it hard to function.

Take it easy, best of luck.


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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: jimmyvengeance]
    #562285 - 02/25/02 10:13 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I have also heard the thoery that we always see these oddities, but that our brains filter them out. It isn't until a drug 'turns off the filter' that we learn what to look for. Once the drug is gone, the filter turns back on, but the brain still remembers how to turn the filter back off, to some extent, on its own.


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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: Skanksta]
    #562288 - 02/25/02 10:20 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Mine lasted about nine days then things mostly returned to normal.

I still (about 20 days later) will "see" something that looks different like an object will look closer or further away, a key hanging on a ring on a wall looks as big as the people standing across the room then I realize it is close to me and not behind those people. A rug will look 3 dimensional and jump off the floor to look momentarily like a large counter blocking my way....

Usually this occurs when I'm tired. After all, I taught my brain a new perception.....


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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: Tannis]
    #562420 - 02/25/02 12:19 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Indeed, tiredness seems to trigger it... I haven't experienced as strong visuals like you descibe and they seem to fade away after a few weeks. Perhaps they will eventually go away when you take a long break. Don't know for sure, since I do shrooms about every month.


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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: PsyFlux]
    #562763 - 02/25/02 05:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

You say you've had it for 9 months. Have you tripped since then? Has it made it worse?


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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: Skanksta]
    #562854 - 02/25/02 07:22 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Did I say nine months :?
Anyway, I've tripped many times since I first started noticing I could also have mild hallucinations by looking at flat surfaces for a while. A recent trip doesn't really seem to make it worse again. When I look for a while at the ceiling now it just moves to the right, not very spectular. I've tripped quite recently however, only a week ago.

Not tripping for a long time does seem to diminish the effect. So I guess that when you take a break for long enough it will eventually go away. I however never took such a long break since I first started noticing these hallucinations so I wouldn't know for sure.. But then again, sometimes the effects are stronger, sometimes they are almost gone.

Don't really feel the need to stop tripping for a long time to try and make these hallucinations go away. They don't disturb me, and I actually have a good laugh at them sometimes when I'm staring at a wall in thought and all of a sudden it's bubbling again :smile: 


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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: Skanksta]
    #563254 - 02/26/02 02:47 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

it's called your imagination. have fun with it. i do. don't let it bring you down, let it lift your spirits. if i were to be having " flashbacks " i would be thankful that i didn't get ripped off. more bang for your buck. adios. peace.


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bends the light
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Re: HELP!! Constant mild flashback?? [Re: Seuss]
    #563301 - 02/26/02 03:27 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

The filter idea correctly sums up the experience of it. What I'm curious about is whether there's an organic element to it beyond a few neuronal tricks. That is, do psychedelics cause damage to inhibitory neurons? Some HPPD sufferers have markedly increased activity in the visual cortex, which is a little disturbing. On the other hand, the occurence is pretty rare and there are a few troublesome confounding variables.


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