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Gijith
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: lonestar2004]
#6115911 - 09/29/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Single party superpower. This hasn't exactly worked out in the past.
-------------------- what's with neocons and the word 'ilk'?
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lonestar2004
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: Gijith]
#6115936 - 09/29/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gijith said: Single party superpower. This hasn't exactly worked out in the past.
I am only predicting it. IMO we need a new and improved party to surface.
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: beatnicknick]
#6115960 - 09/29/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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beatnicknick said: they will run on continuing their effort to thwart terrorism
Really? What exactly has the Dem's effort to thwart terrorism been thus far? It seems like it used to be "just do what the Republicans say" and now it's become "whine about the Republican plans"
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beatnicknick said: I say get out there and vote, we have one party paid for by corporations and one party paid for by unions and just plain old people. Which one do you think will be more fair?
So, contributions by "plain old people" who belong to the massive conservative religious base in the US counts as "corporate contributions?"
Also, is this a multiple-choice question? I'm pretty sure that union-bought votes are going to be pretty unfair...
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beatnicknick said: What illogical, retarded things have every single democrat united for like the republicans have united for removing net neutrallity?
Remember that time Democratic President LBJ asked congress if he could have support to fight the Vietnam War? Well...
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beatnicknick said: C'mon man, we know you're a republican if you claim "Ohh you know what, both parties are corrupt and suck so don't vote for either. Boohoo."
Or you could be a legitimate third party supporter. I've gone to the polls and voted Libertarian in the past 5 elections because it's actually what I believe in.
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: lonestar2004]
#6116017 - 09/29/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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If the repubs loose, which i think is a good possibility if they haven't corrupted the voting system, it will be because the people want change. Everyone knows the path we are on isn't going in a good direction, that fact alone will be their downfall in the next election.
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JonnyOnTheSpot
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: lonestar2004]
#6116030 - 09/29/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Please no spin article just your own words.
that's funny coming from you.
and for the record, democrats may hate bush, but it seems pretty clear that republicans hate pretty much everyone else. there's the muslims, the french, the germans...actually i might as well say europe, the UN, environmentalists, anti-war protesters, activist celebrities, hilary clinton, john kerry, al gore...democrats in general i guess. i could dig around this forum for twenty minutes and find just as many instances of you "conservatives" putting down, slandering, or basically "hating" all of those groups. i mean seriously lonestar, are you trying to sound like a hypocrite?
i'll bump this thread for you after the elections in november.
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lonestar2004
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: lonestar2004]
#6116047 - 09/29/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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lonestar2004 said:
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Gijith said: Single party superpower. This hasn't exactly worked out in the past.
I am only predicting it. IMO we need a new and improved party to surface.
Its going to be boring on election nights. 2006 will have a few surprises but the next day the Reps will still be running things.
and by 2012 the Reps will have over 250 electoral votes already guaranteed before election night. boring.....
Thats why I have a feeling we're at some new beginning, that a big breakup is coming, we'll someday look back on this era as the time when a shift began.
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lonestar2004
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
#6116056 - 09/29/06 03:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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JonnyOnTheSpot said:
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lonestar2004 said:
Please no spin article just your own words.
that's funny coming from you.
i'll bump this thread for you after the elections in november.
Maybe I am wrong Now that the Dem's are going to save the internet.
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: Redstorm]
#6117050 - 09/29/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: The Dems and Rep's are both so unbelievably worthless, but I would like to see a divided gov't so the spending stops. Plus, the Rep's had their turn at fucking up the country, so I suppose the Dem's should have a chance to muck it up just as much.
that is a most retarded sentiment.
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
#6117068 - 09/29/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The same could be said pretty much for the unthinking left.All you did was name democratiuc icons, you didn't actually point out any leftist ideals that the republicans could even begin to embrace.
When I say "unthinking left" I mean the ones whotend to just follow trend without really much understanding of what is going on, and it must be agreed that there are just as many unthinking lefts as there are rights.
I for one am pro war but also pro national education system. Many hyere, you included would call me a right wing guy.
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Redstorm
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nakors_junk_bag said:
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Redstorm said: The Dems and Rep's are both so unbelievably worthless, but I would like to see a divided gov't so the spending stops. Plus, the Rep's had their turn at fucking up the country, so I suppose the Dem's should have a chance to muck it up just as much.
that is a most retarded sentiment.
It certainly is not. It is entirely reasonable. Both parties have had a chance to run things, and both have more or less fucking up catastrophically.
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: Redstorm]
#6117089 - 09/29/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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All you are saying is that the government is run by chance, and a difference in philosophies and opinions doesn't matter.
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Redstorm
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Where in the fuck did I say anything near what you just typed?
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nakors_junk_bag
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There are ideas and long standing beliefs born out by many experiences over time that shape political parties and to say that they are equal in merit is simply not very well thought out.
Republicans win more because they simply espouse a view that is better demonstrated to be effective and reliable government.
Until Bitch got in office and started going crazy with our constitutuion.
Edited by nakors_junk_bag (09/29/06 10:17 PM)
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: Redstorm]
#6117111 - 09/29/06 10:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Redstorm said:
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nakors_junk_bag said:
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Redstorm said: The Dems and Rep's are both so unbelievably worthless, but I would like to see a divided gov't so the spending stops. Plus, the Rep's had their turn at fucking up the country, so I suppose the Dem's should have a chance to muck it up just as much.
that is a most retarded sentiment.
Both parties have had a CHANCE to run things,.
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You can't be serious. Reading comprehension is key. In that sentence "chance" and "opportunity" could be used interchangably. I don't know how you read it, but that's not how it was meant.
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: Redstorm]
#6117132 - 09/29/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: You can't be serious. Reading comprehension is key. In that sentence "chance" and "opportunity" could be used interchangably. I don't know how you read it, but that's not how it was meant.
reading comprehnsion is my mutant power, 800 out of 800 on my sat's.
To think that you actually believe that we should let democrats in office because they "might" run the country better is nuts.
Because they are owed the oppurtunity to fuck up because the"reps" did, that is idiotic.
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nakors_junk_bag
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where do you stand?
I am on the far end of the right, excluding education and military.
The statement you made makes it sound as if you don't have any allegiance, and if you have no allegiance then you can't really have faith in your own values and beliefs.
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nakors_junk_bag
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This makes everytyhing you say nothing.
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nakors_junk_bag said: where do you stand?
I am on the far end of the right, excluding education and military.
The statement you made makes it sound as if you don't have any allegiance, and if you have no allegiance then you can't really have faith in your own values and beliefs.
From everything I've seen of his posts, he's a moderate libertarian.
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Re: Why The Dems Won’t Win in November [Re: Silversoul]
#6117168 - 09/29/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Silversoul said:
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nakors_junk_bag said: where do you stand?
I am on the far end of the right, excluding education and military.
The statement you made makes it sound as if you don't have any allegiance, and if you have no allegiance then you can't really have faith in your own values and beliefs.
From everything I've seen of his posts, he's a moderate libertarian.
a what?
A contradiciton of terms?
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