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okay, lots of DMT extraction questions
#5616616 - 05/11/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just so there is no confusion I am using this tek.
1) Grind 50g frozen MHRB to a powder. Place into mason jar A.
2) Warm muriatic acid water (600ml, ph4) in a heat bath, pour just enough acidified water into jar with ground MHRB to cover the rootbark material with a bit of clearance. Cover jar with cling-wrap, rubberband in place, poke a hole or two into cling wrap for ventilation. Place jar in heat bath. Let it sit for 45 minutes, swirling occasionally. Pour mix into a filter (t-shirt material and funnel) and squeeze off extra liquid from pulp into mason jar B. Return pulp to mason jar A. Cover with acidified water, cling wrap, and let sit for 45 minutes in heat bath, swirling occasionally. Strain into jar B, squeeze off liquid from pulp, discard pulp.
3) Basification: Make a batch of 200ml WARM distilled water to 25g (4 tablespoons) lye. Slowly add this to jar B, until mix turns dark red/black. (it should take roughly ~50ml of lye/water solution). Tilt jar back and forth gently to mix for 1 or 2 minutes.
4) Nonpolar extraction: Add 27ml naptha to solution (From mars tek: 453.59g to 250ml naptha; 50 g = .110 of 453.59g; 250ml naptha x .11 ~ 27ml). Gently swirl contents to mix; pour half of contents into separatory funnel, wait 3 hours. Drain off darker bottom layer (you can stop a bit early and add remaining nonpolar solution to separatory funnel). Wait another 3 hours. Drain off bottom layer.
5) Freeze Precipitation/Wash: Pour contents of separatory funnel into mason jar. Put in freezer for 3 days. Take out after 3 days. Shake naptha in mason jar strongly to loosen crystals into solution. Pour liquid, while still very cold, through a coffee filter placed in a funnel atop a mason jar. Yellow-white DMT crystals should be apparent. Allow them to dry completely on the filter paper. Prepare a solution of 50% distilled water and 50% (Ace Hardware Industrial Strength Ammonium Hydroxide). Pour ¼ pint of solution over the dried crystals in on the filter paper. Flatten filter paper out and allow to dry—crystals should now be washed, white, and ready to smoke.
Now I had to stop after step two for a few days because of time restraints. I have the juice in a large mason jar. When I tilt the jar there seems to be a layer of red material caked on the bottom. We filtered it pretty good through cotton shirts but maybe something got through. My question is should I shake it up when I continue the experiment or should I leave it stuck to the bottom because of possible impurities?
Another question is where could I find a decent separatory funnel. I called some chem stores but no luck?
Also what is hte best naptha to use? Zippo fluid? V&M Naptha i think that is what it is called.
I have been trying this a few times already but with no luck so I am taking every precaution possible.
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Re: okay, lots of DMT extraction questions [Re: Tangerines]
#5616640 - 05/11/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Now I had to stop after step two for a few days because of time restraints. I have the juice in a large mason jar. When I tilt the jar there seems to be a layer of red material caked on the bottom. We filtered it pretty good through cotton shirts but maybe something got through. My question is should I shake it up when I continue the experiment or should I leave it stuck to the bottom because of possible impurities?
That is your sediment, if you leave the supernatant in a sepretory funnel in the fridge overnight it 'should' all fall to the bottom. You DONT want it in the acidified extraction. A buckner filter is more practical than a t-shirt IMO.
You missed a defat step between steps 2 and 3, this will make your crystals oily.
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Another question is where could I find a decent separatory funnel. I called some chem stores but no luck?
Best bet is order from Science Supply stores. I would suggest getting an extra pump, extra filters, and extra pH buffer as well.
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Also what is hte best naptha to use?
Sunnyside leaves little to no residue.
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Re: okay, lots of DMT extraction questions [Re: schmutzen]
#5617039 - 05/11/06 12:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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namaste said:
You missed a defat step between steps 2 and 3, this will make your crystals oily.
if you are using MHRB and youre freeze precipitating, a defat is not necessary, and from what I heard can make it harder for the emulsions to clear when you are doing your naptha pulls.
if you are evaporating, then its a little more necessary.
but the best thing to do is freeze precipitate. you will get white or off white, powder/tiny flaky crystals.
and then, if you want large crystals (and a cleaner product) redissolve your powder in a small amount of naptha or heptane (70ml or so per gram) and then put it in a glass baking dish, and cover it mostly leaving a little space for air exchange, and allow it to slow evaporate in a cool place. this will get you clear crystals. you will need to do an ammonia wash because most commercial solvents will leave a small amount of residue.
Edited by JeffersonDarcy (05/11/06 12:32 PM)
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Re: okay, lots of DMT extraction questions [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
#5617547 - 05/11/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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alright thank you for the respones. WHat I have gatherd is I should NOT mix the mixture I have so far together because the solid caked layer on the bottom is not what I want. I will be picking up some Sunnyside as son as possible along with some Red Devil Lye. Wish me luck. I just hopefully can find a sepratory funnel soon to make stuff alot easier.
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Re: okay, lots of DMT extraction questions [Re: Tangerines]
#5617887 - 05/11/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Red Devil Lye isn't readily available any more, however a good hardware store will have 100% NaOh in the sink/toilet cleaning supplies.
Ebay usually has some good deals on lab equipment too. If you're going to do the freeze/separtation I would recommend getting the buchner filter. I'm too lazy and just let it evaportate and do solvent washes/heat baths later if need be. I'm a cigarette smoker, so standard evaporating gives a smooth enough product for me 
I've always defatted and not had problems with emulsions.
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Re: okay, lots of DMT extraction questions [Re: schmutzen]
#5618654 - 05/11/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The freeze/separation will most likely give you a smaller (more pure) yield than the evaporation, if you're only doing 50gms i would be highly suprised if you got more than half a gram either way.
Also, are you planning on washing the naptha with Sodium Carbonate after basifying?
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Re: okay, lots of DMT extraction questions [Re: schmutzen]
#5619339 - 05/11/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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with 50 grams he will be lucky to get a quarter gram.
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Re: okay, lots of DMT extraction questions [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
#5619427 - 05/11/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I dont really know what DMT is.. but that shit sounds like it takes way to much effort.
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Re: okay, lots of DMT extraction questions [Re: gotTHElife]
#5619550 - 05/11/06 11:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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its dimethyltryptamine. its a chemical very closely related to psilocybin/psilocin. it is also a chemical that is naturally in yoru body and no one knows exactly why. it can either be synthesized (which is above most people's skill level) or extracted from certain plant sources (which is not hard)
smoking freebase DMT results in a very short (5-10 minute) mushroom like trip, if you smoke a threshold dose (20-30mg). if you smoke a full dose (50mg or more) it results in basically a break from reality. a completely immersive psychedelic experience. one of the most intense trips you can have, but its very short (2-5 minute peak, 10 - 15 minutes of after effets) duration makes it very managable. visuals unlike anything else. a DMT breakthru is like going to another dimension... most people actually make contact with other "beings"
basically, its something everyone who is into psychedelics should try.
its very hard to find on the street. for most people the only option is extraction. yes, it takes some effort, but so do most worthwhile things.
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Re: okay, lots of DMT extraction questions [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
#5620484 - 05/12/06 09:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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JeffersonDarcy said: with 50 grams he will be lucky to get a quarter gram.
True, thats right on with my yields, but i didn't want to discourage him too much.
Four Tsb. sounds like way too much lye to me. Tangerines, if you don't have a pH meter its going to make things really tough. First rule of cooking is to have all ingredients before you start 
and gotTHElife, it is totally worth it.
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Re: okay, lots of DMT extraction questions [Re: schmutzen]
#5621262 - 05/12/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wouldn't say you need a ph meter, you could also go with ph papers. The kind with multiple indicator chemicals (on the right) are more expensive but more accurate too.
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