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how weed affects your mind\relationships
    #5615658 - 05/10/06 11:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hey guys...i was a big weed smoker a year back. i smoked everyday, i enjoyed it and had no bad effects. eventually it caught up to me and gave me bad anxiety, so i eventually quit. quitting was the best decision in my life. i felt so alive, so me, i learned so much. i have my binges here and there and smoke, but it's very negative. i get very socially anxious. anyways my point is, i met a girl a few months ago. we connected very well and, me having a straight head helped me deal with situations and be mature with her. i told myself I'd never smoke when she's in my life. i was able to talk to her so well, explain my feelings, and make sure our relationship was healthy. This weekend I smoked weed for the first time since i met her, and it was a disaster. at least for me. i began to not trust myself, assume things, and become depressed about her and i. it killed my personality. it disabled my ability to describe my feelings with words well...it feels as if all of the lessons i've learned in life and about relationships has vanished. i feel trapped, i feel a wall is blocking my mind. i'm depressed about her when i should not be. i over analyze things way too much. i feel as if my old self will never come back, because it has been about 3 days since I smoked and i still feel those affects. when i talk to her, i feel i'm not myself. i can't be the sweet guy i was. i just over think everything i want to say. she had just gotten out of a 3 year relationship with someone and can't have another relationship for a long time and, that's what i think about the most. i get depressed she isn't mine, when i used to just let it go and value what we had. i confuse myself. basically what I'm asking is...am i overreacting? maybe I'm too hard on myself. does this happen to anybody else or am i the only one who has bad trips with weed? hope this makes sense...let me know guys! cya  :smile:


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5615702 - 05/10/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I had about six great years of smoking weed, bowling, and playing baseball with mailboxes... but now my experience with reefer is completely different. It makes me tired, very slow, reclusive, and often depressed. A few weeks ago, I smoked a bowl, then took a hit of acid, and went to a small party. My vocabulary was seriously impaired. I was so fucked up I couldn't express myself and had a hard time figuring out what was going on. (Excellent visuals though :grin:)

So... no more weed fer me!


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5616106 - 05/11/06 02:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

maybe you're underreacting about how much the weed negatively affects your perspective and about how it makes you secondguess.
i have experienced the same thing with grass, and since those experiences i've realized what an intoxicating and clouding drug it is. smoke, relax, think, think think think think, think about relationships, and worry (that you're being too hard, that you're distant, that they're distant, that you're too close, ad nauseum), which amounts to being hard on yourself.

you are being too hard on yourself!

...and this is what separates you from your new love (from love and people) and it's why grass is giving you harsh trips. Icelander just mentioned in another post the importance of self-love -- a love he's struggled with for 50 years. to make smoking (or any psychedelics) good again you have to learn to be nice to yourself!, but for now i think you should focus on your relationship to the girl and try to get rid of the thoughts you have that stand over and outside the relationship.

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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5616213 - 05/11/06 02:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i am never smoking weed again. i used to love it but then it began to cause panic attacks and anxiety and the last time i smoked was one of the worst experiences of my life and tooks days to recover from.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Deviate]
    #5616383 - 05/11/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What you have to realize is it isn't the weed that's causing the panic attacks, anxiety, and other bad effects. It's your brain, your pysche. If you can get in control of it weed can be good for you again. Would you blame acid for a bad trip? Of course not, it was you who fucked it up. Similarly weed should not be blamed for its effects.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5616401 - 05/11/06 08:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

am i overreacting?

Yes, we humans mostly overreact. :mushroom2:


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Icelander]
    #5616526 - 05/11/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think Bob Marley said it best: "The herb reveals you to yourself." If deep in your psyche you are anxious (among other things), weed will cause that to boil to the surface.  I find it a great tool for spiritual work as it really allows you to see what the real deal is.  Try smoking alone in a dark room and really dive deep into what is troubling you.  Maybe you really are anxious about this relationship, but you have deluded yourself into thinking everything is OK.  Think of pot like a magnifying glass, not a colored lens.  Moderate your use to when you can be alone, as you dont seem like a social smoker (as far as i can tell anyways). 

I find pot strips all logic and allows you a much more direct experience of your situation.  Allow it to come in with open arms, and watch what happens.  If used sparingly (say once a week) it can be a valuable tool on par with the sacred mushroom.     

Or just quit smoking altogether.. :wink:

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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Icelander]
    #5616566 - 05/11/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Wow, I didn't know so many other ppl had similar negative experiences with weed. When I first started smoking, it was absolutely great. I was laughing for hours and enjoying myself by playing video games or watching movies and socialising.

After about 6 months however everything turned. I now found myself to be extremely self conscious of myself and quiet. I couldn't socialise without thinking that everyone is thinking I'm some freak, I was so concerned about what they thought about me that I went into a downward spiral, negative thoughts were the order of the day. I was so sensitive in my body/mind that even the butane fromt he lighter would make my teeth and skin feel all nasty.

I now believe Marijuana is a plant teacher and these negative thoughts are arising to the forefront in order for me to embrace the frightened child that is within me. This will transmute the fear into love. (If you want any resources that deals with this issue then you can pm me).

Here are some things which improved my weed experience:

- get yourself into a positive state of mind before smoking

- Meditate before smoking and set your intent

- After smoking, stay present and be the observer and don't get caught up in thoughts. Know that you are beyond any thoughts/beliefs.

- Get out of the mind and into your body. If you get a nice light sweat going by listening to music and dancing then you will find that your trip will probably be pleasant.

-If you feel any tightness then stretch and breathe deeply into the body. If you relax the body then the mind will naturally relax as well.

- Use a vaporiser so that you don't have to taste the butane from the lighter. After I got my Phedor hybrid vaporiser (only $150) and used a water pipe I noticed I don't get the icky feeling on my skin and teeth, and the herb tastes much better. http://www.wickedroots.com/Vaporizers/Herbal-Vaporizer.html

- Most important thing to know is that you are a worthy being and you are in charge of your experience.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #5616577 - 05/11/06 09:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"The herb reveals you to yourself."

I wholeheartedly agree with you my friend. It brings up all the buried thoughts/feelings and its up to us to embrace the imaginary seperate self into the wholeness that we truly are.

I have the upmost respect for this plant for showing me issues that I have to embrace. Intuitivly it makes sense that this plant teacher is pushing us towards clarity just like all the other entheogens.

:smile:


Edited by felix4life (05/11/06 09:57 AM)


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: felix4life]
    #5616584 - 05/11/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I was a hevy smoker for 15 years and then I just didnt like what I had become. I was lazy and didnt want to go out, I know weed was not to blame for all of it but it didnt help either. I dont smoke now but that doesnt mean I never will agn, just not till I get everything else right in my life


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: ezsefix]
    #5617613 - 05/11/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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ezsefix said:
What you have to realize is it isn't the weed that's causing the panic attacks, anxiety, and other bad effects. It's your brain, your pysche. If you can get in control of it weed can be good for you again. Would you blame acid for a bad trip? Of course not, it was you who fucked it up. Similarly weed should not be blamed for its effects.




i'm sorry but you're completely wrong. weed will not be good for me again. it is not harmless and does have negative affects which are beyond your control. if i took acid once and had a bad trip id blame myself but if i took acid thousands of times and it was good in the beginning but eventually started having terrible affects i would understand that it was time to stop taking acid.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: ezsefix]
    #5624218 - 05/13/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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ezsefix said:
What you have to realize is it isn't the weed that's causing the panic attacks, anxiety, and other bad effects. It's your brain, your pysche. If you can get in control of it weed can be good for you again. Would you blame acid for a bad trip? Of course not, it was you who fucked it up. Similarly weed should not be blamed for its effects.




I agree, but you also have to realize that weed is OPTIONAL. If it's that bad for you, then just stop. You don't have to smoke weed and you don't have to prove that you can handle it again. You can just let it go.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5625462 - 05/13/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Nope you're not the only person who has bad trips on weed.

My sister used to be a hardcore pothead until something very similar happened to her.

For myself I barely ever smoke, don't really like it that much and I'm afraid of drug tests.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5625481 - 05/13/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Same thing happened to me. I quit after smoking like a hog for many years. I have heard that it may have something to do with lowering blood sugar levels (hense the munchies). One symptom of low blood sugar is paranoia.

Noting else has that effect on me.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Icelander]
    #5625487 - 05/13/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I found marijuana use an empty practice.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5625507 - 05/13/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have found occasional use vastly rewarding. I have had some of my most difficult experiences on high dose after a long abstinence.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: freddurgan]
    #5625997 - 05/13/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

ezsefix said:
What you have to realize is it isn't the weed that's causing the panic attacks, anxiety, and other bad effects. It's your brain, your pysche. If you can get in control of it weed can be good for you again. Would you blame acid for a bad trip? Of course not, it was you who fucked it up. Similarly weed should not be blamed for its effects.




I agree, but you also have to realize that weed is OPTIONAL. If it's that bad for you, then just stop. You don't have to smoke weed and you don't have to prove that you can handle it again. You can just let it go.





not only that but marijuana does have negative affects which you can't control. even if i smoke marijuana and stay completey calm during the experience, i dont enjoy it anymore.
it doesn't feel healthy for my brain, it doesn't feel healthy for my mind and it doesn't feel healthy for my body. why do people assume that we can handle infinite amounts of marijuana? is it so hard to believe that after years of abuse your body might say "enough"?

i mean this statement "weed should not be blamed for its effects" is ridiculous. what should be blamed then? the fact is that even if i smoke weed and remain completely calm and in control without panicking the slightest bit, the feeling i get from it is horrible and nothing like how it used to be.


Edited by Deviate (05/13/06 08:12 PM)


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Icelander]
    #5626003 - 05/13/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Same thing happened to me. I quit after smoking like a hog for many years. I have heard that it may have something to do with lowering blood sugar levels (hense the munchies). One symptom of low blood sugar is paranoia.

Noting else has that effect on me.




just out of curiosity, how many pounds of weed do you think you smoked in total? (just estimate)


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Deviate]
    #5626034 - 05/13/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Man I smoked a lot for 20+ years. How would I know.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Deviate]
    #5626039 - 05/13/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I know lots of people who become dependant on it and are very willing to admit that. I know people who are very smart, but feel they need bud so badly that their relationships suffer. Like, they would rather weight around for a 20 sack than go to dinner and a movie with friends even if someone had a free ticket for them.
I know people who have manipulated friends into doing crazy things(like driving far away to get the weed every time a pickup needs to be made, but the driver goes alone and profits very little compared to the person manipulating the hell out of him for free weed).
That driver was one of my best friends. We dont hang out EVER because of the way me and my other friend took advantage of him(he eventually realized this. I was not the instigator. I pulled some strings and thus the "driver" made more profit. But he doesnt even talk to me because I didnt do what I should have, given him an almost equal deal(he did not provide funds, but did the more important part). My best friend is the asshole who would pull this shit, and I now dont respect him nearly as much as I used to because I realize what a power/weed hungry ass of a friend he really is. We are definately not as close anymore.

You know that commercial where the girl is melting into her couch and her friend is saying weed did this to her. Well I know some selfish so called friends who have smoked so much pot that when they get high, they are so seperate from reality that they almost cant hear you, and certainly dont respond very well. They are not brain damaged ofcoarse. They have lost all motivation to find interest in anything anyone has to say. When friends dont talk while stoned or cant, that is definately a bad thing. I like colorful people, and have seen those kinds of interesting personalities go down the drain because they smoke to damn much for someone who seemingly cant handle their herb. In my experience, those people are usually the same ones who treat it like crack, and need their weed fix.


Edited by stemmer (05/13/06 08:26 PM)


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Icelander]
    #5626060 - 05/13/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Man I smoked a lot for 20+ years. How would I know.





well i tended to smoke at a farily steady rate so it was easy for me to calculate. for you i guess youd have to try and guess at the average you smoked per year and then multiply that by 20.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Deviate]
    #5626134 - 05/13/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I didn't smoke the same amount every day.  :grin: And the pot was mexican when I started out. Do you realize how much of that you had to smoke to get high? My God man, leave me alone. :rofl2: And actually I smoked for about 30 years. :wink:


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Edited by Icelander (05/13/06 08:35 PM)


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Icelander]
    #5626346 - 05/13/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

How does weed affect my mind and relationships. Depends on the situations, Ive experienced both positive and negative aspects on both aspects. In terms of my mind, what I put in is what I get out, the more that is in me the better. I like to get really really high, I smoke alot and use really good tools to get there, again what I put in what I get out. When im not high it doesn't matter, I dont feel negative or down, sure I can feel the difference in my body, its quite noticeable, I don't think its a bad thing though or hard to do, its just different :blush:
With relationships it depends, my relationships with people who are of similar mind frame are usually more rewarding and deeper than people who bring negativity and fear to the table, both with people who smoke and people who don't.

I think its a tool, and like any tool it works allot better when you realize it in your hands. To me marijuana is just as powerful of psychedelic as any, if not more.


Edited by Springs (05/13/06 09:20 PM)


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Springs]
    #5626608 - 05/13/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Its all ways the drugs man the drug make me do it naver the person that does them flut
guns don't kill people, people kill people
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Its the _what ever _ made me do this that
its no wonder drugs are ilegal
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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Brainiac]
    #5626647 - 05/13/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Weed can definately function as a very positive thing when it comes to relationships. I have experienced more of the negative side than I would have wanted. It shouldnt be that way.

Like brainiac said, guns dont kill people, people kill people.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: stemmer]
    #5626744 - 05/13/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:mad2: :evil::mad: :mad:Haven't you all noice that when some one robs a someone or thay brack in to a hose and thay kill someone .The frist than thay say is "I was high on ___what ever drug ___ that drug( meth pot aicd....)
made me do it, man"
This is the number reason why drugs are illagel people cant take respable for what thay have done  :mad: :mad: :evil: :mad2:


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Brainiac]
    #5626938 - 05/13/06 11:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

no, thats not the the number one reason drugs are illegal. its been shown that marijuana doesn't correlate with crime or violence while alcohol, a legal drug, does.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Deviate]
    #5627529 - 05/14/06 05:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Im pretty sure he meant the reasoning has more to do with the blame placed by the user on a substance, not that its because they where intoxicated on the substance.

Im high, smokin some nice, clear sativa for the morn. :rasta:  :stoned: :heart:


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Springs]
    #5627537 - 05/14/06 05:45 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i still dont think thats drugs are illegal and people are going to get addicted to drugs reguardless of where you place the blame.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Deviate]
    #5627547 - 05/14/06 06:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well drugs are illegal for many reasons, and yeah people will get addicted to drugs regardless of blame. I think thats where responsibility comes in.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Springs]
    #5627553 - 05/14/06 06:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

but he was essentially saying theyre illegal because people blame the drug for what they do and i dont think thats true. even if drug addicts admitted it was their fault for getting addicted to drugs (which many of them do admit) i doubt it would have any baring on the legalization argument.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Deviate]
    #5666559 - 05/23/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you all for such wonderful responses, i like the debates as well. i hadn't checked the post in a while because i felt it helped me get it out of my head and it would help me be straight once again...It did, after a week. I have a straight head now and things are great with her and i. However, i live with my friends and they smoke weed a lot...not that i feel left out, i can hang out with them when they're high and i'm sober. however, i miss being high, producing while high, eating while high, all of the good things. It's just not the same anymore... like deviate, it's a different high now. Sobriety is wonderful though, so i don't feel like i'm missing out. I just wish i didn't trip so bad if i smoked ONCE! It would be nice to do it every now and then! But I value my relationship with my girl so i'll remain sober for now...thanks guys!


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5666854 - 05/23/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

dude weed can mess you up, but you are the one that messed yourself up.

the only reason it affected you so severely because you set up this clear intention in your mind to never use weed again, and labeled it as a demon not conducive to good health.

so instead of smoking a plant you smoked one of your personal demons..... and that's why you feel down.

it's very psychosomatic because you will feel stoned for several days after your first smoke....... that's normal. then it goes away. you will be normal within a week max if you just chill and realize that you can use weed, or you can't use weed. whichever decision is best for you that is the decision to make. You cannot use weed if it does this to you, but you are the one doing it to yourself.

It is probably possible to use weed and still be with your girlfriend and to not have adverse effects, but only if you truely believe that it is okay to do.... and you know how to moderate and use spiritually remember that marijuana is a powerful semi-hallucinagen, it can take you as far out as you want to go.

it is to be respected and used only infrequently unless it is barely used at all as a MEDICINE (we're talking a tiny puff just to get the therepeutic effects) and that's pretty much the sum of it.

if you aren't using marijuana spiritually you are better off not using at all. there is the risk of breaking the law. there is the anxiety problems that you already have. there is your psychological block which makes smoking worse....

but most important of all there is the health of your lungs. You can and will die from cancer by smoking pot, don't think otherwise. Maybe it doesn't have as many carcinagens, or maybe it does. The issue is that lungs, when critically congested because they are harmed from smoke inhalation, can become very unhealthy and bring the health of your entire body/sould/mind down with them.

If you're gonna use cannabis it's best to eat it. That might help with anxiety too. But I say don't beat yourself up. You'll be back to normal soon because it's all in your head.

Maybe you should tell her what's going on, that you strived to not smoke weed but made a mistake and now it's freaking you out. She should be able to help you with that. It's possible the effects could be long lasting but not very likely.

It's likely that you've simply attached a stigma to weed, making it a demon...... it's like if you said "i'll never eat candy again" and suddenly you became a better person. Well part of it is that you are healthier by far, but part of it is that you are labeling candy eating as bad, and therefore to not eat candy you feel like a better man more in control of your destiny.

We all slip up. Don't worry too much. Watch those lungs!~


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: leery11]
    #5667678 - 05/24/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

weed always disconnected me from reality and from myself. it made it very easy for me to get lost in the opinions of others or in tiny details. generally i'd only have "happy" weed trips while alone, and it was a cloudy unco-ordinated happy.
i'm very confused why poeple smoke weed. i've heard poeple say that it makes them relaxed and makes them feel good, but every person i'd heard say that when further questioned says that it only got to be like that after they had smoked a long time and developed a strong tolerance to it.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: felix4life]
    #5668003 - 05/24/06 09:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

nice advice. oh god, weeeeeed.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5668168 - 05/24/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah. I hear that a lot now. People enjoy weed at first and then it changes after a while and it's only negative after that. It happened to me. Weed is about as pleasurable as a punch in the face to me now. Anxiety and panic attacks are just so much fun. I'll never smoke again. It makes me wonder what weed is like for the people that still enjoy it. They act like weed is the greatest thing ever.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: stantonfreedom]
    #5668509 - 05/24/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

For me it is simply that weed broadens ones quantity and branches of thoughts by simultaneously lessing the quality of it (/them). More thoughts, but they reach not so far, by far. They may reach quality only by abstract thought jump of association, but one would have to 'manually' walk the way later in a rational way for confirmation of 'real' quality and not only subjectively assumed one :grin:.
Sobriety is a good balance of both.
Coke, in contrast I see. It ripped some friends of mine as they 'entered the highway' of 'the thought' and of 'that way'.
That is single thought with less branches and I disgust it, because it looses its diversity and beauty in coherence and context and it misses some quite important and essential ones, too, regularly.

Both ways of thought-development can be achieved without drugs, too, but will be harder to be realized then.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5669111 - 05/24/06 03:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Weed has been a good friend of mine for about 5 years now. Weed helps me tune out all the bullshit of every day drama, helps me focus my mind on issues at hand, allows me to relax , helps me fall asleep , gets rid of nausea and/or discomfort in my abdominal area (caused from a car accident back before I started smoking).

Also I found weed helped me just be free and more creative in a social enviroment when I wanted it to. I met a girl outside my house one day when I came out to hotbox my car as I usually did when I lived with my parents. she was chillin with my brother and some of his friends, had just moved there from out of town. She gives me the look and it went from there . I think weed helped me stay chilled out and relaxed and not giddy like all of the other dudes that were trying to get with her . she ended up givin me the sign and we hooked up went from there and 2 years later we got married in barbados and now live together.

we get high together , play video games together, do all sorts of shit while high. i constantly use weed as a tool to evolve my way of thinking to a higher level, and to creatively improve my relationship with her.

However while weed is a great drug i do not hold it responsible for all the good times I have had with it. It was my already positive mindset (which I aquired shortly after almost dying in that car accident I mentioned) that helped me unlock the positive aspects of the weed and incorporate it into my everyday life.

The only personal downsides I see in weed,, are things like procrastinating on things , which in the end are my fault. There were times when I knew I had to do something and decided to smoke first, then ended up not doing anything at all. I can not blame weed for that.

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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: TacticalBongRip]
    #5681786 - 05/27/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

leery, very good advice! i will take into consideration of what you typed, thank you. i enjoy reading all of your stories on how weed effects you. maybe it is my mind telling me it is a demon, because before i smoke i get into an anxiety attack already. i anticipate getting high and begin analyzing how my mind changes. i just wish i could go back to being young and smoking and not worrying about my mind or how i talk to people. i used to not care. now it is the one thing i think about most.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: felix4life]
    #5682112 - 05/27/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

felix4life said:
"The herb reveals you to yourself."

I wholeheartedly agree with you my friend. It brings up all the buried thoughts/feelings and its up to us to embrace the imaginary seperate self into the wholeness that we truly are.

I have the upmost respect for this plant for showing me issues that I have to embrace. Intuitivly it makes sense that this plant teacher is pushing us towards clarity just like all the other entheogens.

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