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how weed affects your mind\relationships
    #5615658 - 05/10/06 11:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hey guys...i was a big weed smoker a year back. i smoked everyday, i enjoyed it and had no bad effects. eventually it caught up to me and gave me bad anxiety, so i eventually quit. quitting was the best decision in my life. i felt so alive, so me, i learned so much. i have my binges here and there and smoke, but it's very negative. i get very socially anxious. anyways my point is, i met a girl a few months ago. we connected very well and, me having a straight head helped me deal with situations and be mature with her. i told myself I'd never smoke when she's in my life. i was able to talk to her so well, explain my feelings, and make sure our relationship was healthy. This weekend I smoked weed for the first time since i met her, and it was a disaster. at least for me. i began to not trust myself, assume things, and become depressed about her and i. it killed my personality. it disabled my ability to describe my feelings with words well...it feels as if all of the lessons i've learned in life and about relationships has vanished. i feel trapped, i feel a wall is blocking my mind. i'm depressed about her when i should not be. i over analyze things way too much. i feel as if my old self will never come back, because it has been about 3 days since I smoked and i still feel those affects. when i talk to her, i feel i'm not myself. i can't be the sweet guy i was. i just over think everything i want to say. she had just gotten out of a 3 year relationship with someone and can't have another relationship for a long time and, that's what i think about the most. i get depressed she isn't mine, when i used to just let it go and value what we had. i confuse myself. basically what I'm asking is...am i overreacting? maybe I'm too hard on myself. does this happen to anybody else or am i the only one who has bad trips with weed? hope this makes sense...let me know guys! cya  :smile:


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5615702 - 05/10/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I had about six great years of smoking weed, bowling, and playing baseball with mailboxes... but now my experience with reefer is completely different. It makes me tired, very slow, reclusive, and often depressed. A few weeks ago, I smoked a bowl, then took a hit of acid, and went to a small party. My vocabulary was seriously impaired. I was so fucked up I couldn't express myself and had a hard time figuring out what was going on. (Excellent visuals though :grin:)

So... no more weed fer me!


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5616106 - 05/11/06 02:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

maybe you're underreacting about how much the weed negatively affects your perspective and about how it makes you secondguess.
i have experienced the same thing with grass, and since those experiences i've realized what an intoxicating and clouding drug it is. smoke, relax, think, think think think think, think about relationships, and worry (that you're being too hard, that you're distant, that they're distant, that you're too close, ad nauseum), which amounts to being hard on yourself.

you are being too hard on yourself!

...and this is what separates you from your new love (from love and people) and it's why grass is giving you harsh trips. Icelander just mentioned in another post the importance of self-love -- a love he's struggled with for 50 years. to make smoking (or any psychedelics) good again you have to learn to be nice to yourself!, but for now i think you should focus on your relationship to the girl and try to get rid of the thoughts you have that stand over and outside the relationship.

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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5616213 - 05/11/06 02:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i am never smoking weed again. i used to love it but then it began to cause panic attacks and anxiety and the last time i smoked was one of the worst experiences of my life and tooks days to recover from.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Deviate]
    #5616383 - 05/11/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What you have to realize is it isn't the weed that's causing the panic attacks, anxiety, and other bad effects. It's your brain, your pysche. If you can get in control of it weed can be good for you again. Would you blame acid for a bad trip? Of course not, it was you who fucked it up. Similarly weed should not be blamed for its effects.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5616401 - 05/11/06 08:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

am i overreacting?

Yes, we humans mostly overreact. :mushroom2:


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Icelander]
    #5616526 - 05/11/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think Bob Marley said it best: "The herb reveals you to yourself." If deep in your psyche you are anxious (among other things), weed will cause that to boil to the surface.  I find it a great tool for spiritual work as it really allows you to see what the real deal is.  Try smoking alone in a dark room and really dive deep into what is troubling you.  Maybe you really are anxious about this relationship, but you have deluded yourself into thinking everything is OK.  Think of pot like a magnifying glass, not a colored lens.  Moderate your use to when you can be alone, as you dont seem like a social smoker (as far as i can tell anyways). 

I find pot strips all logic and allows you a much more direct experience of your situation.  Allow it to come in with open arms, and watch what happens.  If used sparingly (say once a week) it can be a valuable tool on par with the sacred mushroom.     

Or just quit smoking altogether.. :wink:

:heart: Peace :heart:

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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Icelander]
    #5616566 - 05/11/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Wow, I didn't know so many other ppl had similar negative experiences with weed. When I first started smoking, it was absolutely great. I was laughing for hours and enjoying myself by playing video games or watching movies and socialising.

After about 6 months however everything turned. I now found myself to be extremely self conscious of myself and quiet. I couldn't socialise without thinking that everyone is thinking I'm some freak, I was so concerned about what they thought about me that I went into a downward spiral, negative thoughts were the order of the day. I was so sensitive in my body/mind that even the butane fromt he lighter would make my teeth and skin feel all nasty.

I now believe Marijuana is a plant teacher and these negative thoughts are arising to the forefront in order for me to embrace the frightened child that is within me. This will transmute the fear into love. (If you want any resources that deals with this issue then you can pm me).

Here are some things which improved my weed experience:

- get yourself into a positive state of mind before smoking

- Meditate before smoking and set your intent

- After smoking, stay present and be the observer and don't get caught up in thoughts. Know that you are beyond any thoughts/beliefs.

- Get out of the mind and into your body. If you get a nice light sweat going by listening to music and dancing then you will find that your trip will probably be pleasant.

-If you feel any tightness then stretch and breathe deeply into the body. If you relax the body then the mind will naturally relax as well.

- Use a vaporiser so that you don't have to taste the butane from the lighter. After I got my Phedor hybrid vaporiser (only $150) and used a water pipe I noticed I don't get the icky feeling on my skin and teeth, and the herb tastes much better. http://www.wickedroots.com/Vaporizers/Herbal-Vaporizer.html

- Most important thing to know is that you are a worthy being and you are in charge of your experience.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #5616577 - 05/11/06 09:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"The herb reveals you to yourself."

I wholeheartedly agree with you my friend. It brings up all the buried thoughts/feelings and its up to us to embrace the imaginary seperate self into the wholeness that we truly are.

I have the upmost respect for this plant for showing me issues that I have to embrace. Intuitivly it makes sense that this plant teacher is pushing us towards clarity just like all the other entheogens.

:smile:


Edited by felix4life (05/11/06 09:57 AM)


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: felix4life]
    #5616584 - 05/11/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I was a hevy smoker for 15 years and then I just didnt like what I had become. I was lazy and didnt want to go out, I know weed was not to blame for all of it but it didnt help either. I dont smoke now but that doesnt mean I never will agn, just not till I get everything else right in my life


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: ezsefix]
    #5617613 - 05/11/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ezsefix said:
What you have to realize is it isn't the weed that's causing the panic attacks, anxiety, and other bad effects. It's your brain, your pysche. If you can get in control of it weed can be good for you again. Would you blame acid for a bad trip? Of course not, it was you who fucked it up. Similarly weed should not be blamed for its effects.




i'm sorry but you're completely wrong. weed will not be good for me again. it is not harmless and does have negative affects which are beyond your control. if i took acid once and had a bad trip id blame myself but if i took acid thousands of times and it was good in the beginning but eventually started having terrible affects i would understand that it was time to stop taking acid.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: ezsefix]
    #5624218 - 05/13/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ezsefix said:
What you have to realize is it isn't the weed that's causing the panic attacks, anxiety, and other bad effects. It's your brain, your pysche. If you can get in control of it weed can be good for you again. Would you blame acid for a bad trip? Of course not, it was you who fucked it up. Similarly weed should not be blamed for its effects.




I agree, but you also have to realize that weed is OPTIONAL. If it's that bad for you, then just stop. You don't have to smoke weed and you don't have to prove that you can handle it again. You can just let it go.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: imagine]
    #5625462 - 05/13/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Nope you're not the only person who has bad trips on weed.

My sister used to be a hardcore pothead until something very similar happened to her.

For myself I barely ever smoke, don't really like it that much and I'm afraid of drug tests.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5625481 - 05/13/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Same thing happened to me. I quit after smoking like a hog for many years. I have heard that it may have something to do with lowering blood sugar levels (hense the munchies). One symptom of low blood sugar is paranoia.

Noting else has that effect on me.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Icelander]
    #5625487 - 05/13/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I found marijuana use an empty practice.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5625507 - 05/13/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have found occasional use vastly rewarding. I have had some of my most difficult experiences on high dose after a long abstinence.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: freddurgan]
    #5625997 - 05/13/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

freddurgan said:
Quote:

ezsefix said:
What you have to realize is it isn't the weed that's causing the panic attacks, anxiety, and other bad effects. It's your brain, your pysche. If you can get in control of it weed can be good for you again. Would you blame acid for a bad trip? Of course not, it was you who fucked it up. Similarly weed should not be blamed for its effects.




I agree, but you also have to realize that weed is OPTIONAL. If it's that bad for you, then just stop. You don't have to smoke weed and you don't have to prove that you can handle it again. You can just let it go.





not only that but marijuana does have negative affects which you can't control. even if i smoke marijuana and stay completey calm during the experience, i dont enjoy it anymore.
it doesn't feel healthy for my brain, it doesn't feel healthy for my mind and it doesn't feel healthy for my body. why do people assume that we can handle infinite amounts of marijuana? is it so hard to believe that after years of abuse your body might say "enough"?

i mean this statement "weed should not be blamed for its effects" is ridiculous. what should be blamed then? the fact is that even if i smoke weed and remain completely calm and in control without panicking the slightest bit, the feeling i get from it is horrible and nothing like how it used to be.


Edited by Deviate (05/13/06 08:12 PM)


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Icelander]
    #5626003 - 05/13/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Same thing happened to me. I quit after smoking like a hog for many years. I have heard that it may have something to do with lowering blood sugar levels (hense the munchies). One symptom of low blood sugar is paranoia.

Noting else has that effect on me.




just out of curiosity, how many pounds of weed do you think you smoked in total? (just estimate)


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Deviate]
    #5626034 - 05/13/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Man I smoked a lot for 20+ years. How would I know.


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Re: how weed affects your mind\relationships [Re: Deviate]
    #5626039 - 05/13/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I know lots of people who become dependant on it and are very willing to admit that. I know people who are very smart, but feel they need bud so badly that their relationships suffer. Like, they would rather weight around for a 20 sack than go to dinner and a movie with friends even if someone had a free ticket for them.
I know people who have manipulated friends into doing crazy things(like driving far away to get the weed every time a pickup needs to be made, but the driver goes alone and profits very little compared to the person manipulating the hell out of him for free weed).
That driver was one of my best friends. We dont hang out EVER because of the way me and my other friend took advantage of him(he eventually realized this. I was not the instigator. I pulled some strings and thus the "driver" made more profit. But he doesnt even talk to me because I didnt do what I should have, given him an almost equal deal(he did not provide funds, but did the more important part). My best friend is the asshole who would pull this shit, and I now dont respect him nearly as much as I used to because I realize what a power/weed hungry ass of a friend he really is. We are definately not as close anymore.

You know that commercial where the girl is melting into her couch and her friend is saying weed did this to her. Well I know some selfish so called friends who have smoked so much pot that when they get high, they are so seperate from reality that they almost cant hear you, and certainly dont respond very well. They are not brain damaged ofcoarse. They have lost all motivation to find interest in anything anyone has to say. When friends dont talk while stoned or cant, that is definately a bad thing. I like colorful people, and have seen those kinds of interesting personalities go down the drain because they smoke to damn much for someone who seemingly cant handle their herb. In my experience, those people are usually the same ones who treat it like crack, and need their weed fix.


Edited by stemmer (05/13/06 08:26 PM)


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