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Kratom...different strains ?
    #5611904 - 05/10/06 08:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I am looking to grow kratom and I was hopping for some confirmed difference (either yes or no) between reg. kratom and the "red vein" kind. I have never had the red vein and I would hate to spend the extra money to get a red vein plant only to find later it was a total waist and I should have gone with the less expensive plant.
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Re: Kratom...different strains ? [Re: mrjim202000]
    #5611927 - 05/10/06 09:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not too sure on this whole "red vein" "white/green vein" thing, because I think it has something to do with age as apposed to strains. I'm probably completely wrong on this, because IAS sells red and white veined seeds. My plant, a Rifat strain, has both colored veins right now. I know there is a difference in effects from white and red veined, but I'm probably just confusing you. You could get a Rifat clone, because i've heard growing from seed means that about half your babies will never be useful, alkaloidially speaking.


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    #5612297 - 05/10/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Kratom...different strains ? [Re: pod3]
    #5621198 - 05/12/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

thanks pod3
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Re: Kratom...different strains ? [Re: mrjim202000]
    #5623584 - 05/13/06 01:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i have the rifat strain also. like he said mine shows both colors. however in my seedlings of the red strain they all have a litle difference in colors although they are very, very small. honestly i do think its the difference in maturity and light/soil conditions. i may have a positive answer if they start growing faster.


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Re: Kratom...different strains ? [Re: pod3]
    #5623881 - 05/13/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Color differences are the result of different amounts of light exposure on the same plant, though some strains have been developed to favor one shade or another. In other words, you root several generations of clones from the whitest leaves. The plant will be predisposed toward producing white veins. The same can be done with red, but these were the same specie, AFIK.

Also, leaves which have been on the plant for awhile will change back and forth between colors, depending upon how the light conditions change.






Is this kratom-specific? Because I don't know how applicable this is in the greater plant kingdom.

Some (plants') leaves produce certain features because of genetic predispositions... And although I'm sure there are cases in which light exposure effected a plant's foliar color, there are also cases in which light exposure had nothing to do with it.

Light exposure usually effects specific colors, like green from the chlorophyll... and its concentrations (and thus resulting leaf color)...


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Re: Kratom...different strains ? [Re: Herbus]
    #5623900 - 05/13/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You have to realize the exchange of genetics which typically occurs in the production of seed...

From these posts, it would seem to be a genetic feature, and within that gene pool there would appear to be a decent degree of phenotypical variety...

Because it is not a "clone," or exact replica of parent plant, during the exchange of genetics, the plant may pick up nucleotides which instruct the plant to grow both red and white veins.

Somewhere, there's probably a strain which grows "true," developing only white veins, red veins, etc... However, when seed is produced and sold, it may not be identical, and may have other characteristics.


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    #5624243 - 05/13/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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