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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: monamine]
#5611197 - 05/10/06 12:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The nice guy thing totally works for me. I'm polite to a fault, nice, and quiet, but I still get hit on all the time.
I think its just that you just can't be too nice, or show that you're really into them, because then they know that they can have you whenever they want, and thats just not a turn on. The thrill of the hunt and the excitement that comes from the "kill" is much more alluring than just being able to have someone at the drop of a hat.
The guys that are dicks but still get girls do so because they are assertive and tend to be very confident, at least on the ouside, and these qualities also happen to be attractive features.
Not to say that physical attractiveness doesn't play a part, but it only really matters for first impressions, its how you act after you first meet someone that will hook them, so to speak.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#5611319 - 05/10/06 01:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ginseng1 said: But whenever I get into a nice conversation about life and whatnot,
I'm sorry to break this to you but pouring out your soul and giving a woman your life story as soon as you meet her is never going to get you anywhere. That goes for both men and women. It makes you sound extremely needy and pathetic. Best advice for you is to relax and go with the flow. Don't try to force some shit that's not there.

What are you talking about?
You cant get into interesting philosophical conversations with women now?
I am talking about social problems, fascinating things that exist on this earth, interesting shit about culture and people, or what psychedelics are about, etc...
pouring out my soul? where the hell did you get this from. When did I ever say that I start talking about myself, as If I was searching some sort of comfort from this bitch?
I am talking about not being able to get into a conversation that doesnt has anything to do with what celebrity did this or that. I am a man with a brain, and I use it, and I expect to get brains in return (pun intended).
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: Ginseng1]
#5611327 - 05/10/06 01:16 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ginseng1 said:
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mattzdope said:
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Ginseng1 said: But whenever I get into a nice conversation about life and whatnot,
I'm sorry to break this to you but pouring out your soul and giving a woman your life story as soon as you meet her is never going to get you anywhere. That goes for both men and women. It makes you sound extremely needy and pathetic. Best advice for you is to relax and go with the flow. Don't try to force some shit that's not there.

What are you talking about?
You cant get into interesting philosophical conversations with women now?
I am talking about social problems, fascinating things that exist on this earth, interesting shit about culture and people, or what psychedelics are about, etc...
pouring out my soul? where the hell did you get this from. When did I ever say that I start talking about myself, as If I was searching some sort of comfort from this bitch?
I am talking about not being able to get into a conversation that doesnt has anything to do with what celebrity did this or that. I am a man with a brain, and I use it, and I expect to get brains in return (pun intended).
Made some assumptions that are obviously not true.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#5611339 - 05/10/06 01:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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5 shrooms for you!
BTW your avatar has scarred me and ive been having nightmares since...
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eligal
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: Ginseng1]
#5611416 - 05/10/06 02:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ginseng1 said: and I expect to get brains in return
you, along with the rest of us bachelors, are in search of what we like to call, the holy grail.
others call it homosexuality.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: eligal]
#5611419 - 05/10/06 02:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: monamine]
#5611562 - 05/10/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't think guys that are successful with women can all be easily labeled "assholes that treat women like shit". A lot are but not all. It's a lot more varied and complicated than that.
The way I see it, some guys have "game" and some guys don't. Guys who have game have to beat the women off with a stick. Guys who don't have game end up masturbating a lot. I've seen nice guys who had game and I've seen assholes who had game. I've seen handsome guys who had game and I've seen repulsive guys who had game. I've seen boisterous guys who had game and I've seen shy guys who had game. "Game" is hard to quantify and nail down but it is easy to spot. Some guys just have it. 
I should note that I have about as much game as a parapalegic basketball player.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5611652 - 05/10/06 06:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did you have that vasectomy or decided things were ok as they are?
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: Asante]
#5611700 - 05/10/06 07:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The women that arn't like that are not really out there, not round pubs and clubs anyway because there not interested in the whole bullshit of the pulling game. This is why their so elusive, and to me its almost like luck if you happen to connect with one of them !
I hate the pulling 'game'. I think its so fake. Men acting in a certain way so women like them, women only looking for me that act this certain way. wft happened to just being yourself, at least if you find someone being yourself theres a good chance your going to be happy.
Im a nice guy with a rough edge, i used to have alot of girls then i saw the game for what it was and lost alot of faith in it.
I don't want a girl who's like that so i don't need to play that game.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: monamine]
#5611944 - 05/10/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you actually bother to approach women? Or do you just stare at them from across the room and wish they would talk to you?
Make some kind of EFFORT.
I should also add that not ALL women are superficial, just like not all men are superficial. Generalizing never helped anyone get laid.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: monamine]
#5612137 - 05/10/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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females are superficial, but they tend to have different and more diverse standards than men.
for instance, some women find fat bald men attractive.
the standards of male attractiveness are less universal than the standards of female attractiveness.
but yeah, I think the real truth is that PEOPLE are superficial.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: DoctorJ]
#5612149 - 05/10/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: adrug]
#5612164 - 05/10/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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adrug said: Do you actually bother to approach women? Or do you just stare at them from across the room and wish they would talk to you?
Make some kind of EFFORT.
I think unless you approach men yourself you have no business telling someone to approach someone. Now i don't know if you do, I'm just saying because women usually dont.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: Mike_yy]
#5612191 - 05/10/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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mikeyyork said: The women that arn't like that are not really out there, not round pubs and clubs anyway because there not interested in the whole bullshit of the pulling game.
Exactly.
If you're not finding what you want, LOOK SOMEWHERE ELSE. And can you really expect to have a deep conversation about things with someone you just met a minute ago?
And I bet that the OP only went up to the girls that looked like they were going to say some dumbshit, in the hopes that they'd be cool. Sometimes you have to change what you're attracted to. Yes, it CAN be done.
That girl sitting in the corner kinda quiet, not screeching at the top of her lungs about Britney's Spears new baby, the one that doesn't have 10 pounds of makeup caked onto her face, the one that no guy is drooling over........go talk to her.... you might be surprised...
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: Asante]
#5612700 - 05/10/06 01:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Did you have that vasectomy or decided things were ok as they are?
I decided against getting it done now. I might get it done in the future however. My hand and I have had a few pregnancy scares recently though.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5612822 - 05/10/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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yea well I guess I used to try and be 'badass' and that seemed to attract alot of girls to me. Then I really mellowed out and I guess I got 'further out there' and I always bring shit up about space, time, world issues, natural wonders, science/math etc. but that just gets me weird looks and ends the conversation. I finally realized how stupid the hwole 'badass' ego is so i stopped it but that is the only thing that works(for me at least). I need to look at some new places now i guess.
People find it very hard to believe that someone can smoke trip drink and be very intelligent so they assume what I am saying is some made up bullshit even though a lot of the times it is proven. I guess the 'stoner/hippie' label really brings me down in other peoples eyes that is. Out of about 1000 people in my class I am in the top 100 and in a few honors classes such as calculus and honors physics. Time will tell though.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: buckwheat]
#5612979 - 05/10/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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adrug said: Do you actually bother to approach women? Or do you just stare at them from across the room and wish they would talk to you?
Make some kind of EFFORT.
I think unless you approach men yourself you have no business telling someone to approach someone. Now i don't know if you do, I'm just saying because women usually dont.
I approach men if I'm interested. I'm not scared of a little rejection. However, that is beside the point. We're not talking about everyone or me, we're talking about this one guy here who posted this thread. If he really wants to meet someone, he's going to have to make some kind of effort to talk to people instead of just looking along from the sidelines. If he doesn't, then he either has to wait until the perfect woman just falls into his lap (which of course will never happen), or just go lonely.
Now, I'm not saying that he doesn't approach women or try; I wouldn't know if he did. But from my experience, guys who frequent the internet are not exactly social butterflies, so I'm taking a gamble on being right.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: monamine]
#5613039 - 05/10/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The problem isn't in the claims of superficiality, it's in the GENERALIZATION being made by saying "women are" or "men are" anything. That's fucking ridiculous.
Men and women both come in a variety of personality types, which includes a range from "shallow to deep," so to speak, on both sides of the fence.
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: JacquesCousteau]
#5613122 - 05/10/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hallelujah, Jacques! SOMEONE GETS IT!
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Re: females are as superficial as males [Re: adrug]
#5613157 - 05/10/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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adrug said:
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buckwheat said:
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adrug said: Do you actually bother to approach women? Or do you just stare at them from across the room and wish they would talk to you?
Make some kind of EFFORT.
I think unless you approach men yourself you have no business telling someone to approach someone. Now i don't know if you do, I'm just saying because women usually dont.
I approach men if I'm interested. I'm not scared of a little rejection. However, that is beside the point. We're not talking about everyone or me, we're talking about this one guy here who posted this thread. If he really wants to meet someone, he's going to have to make some kind of effort to talk to people instead of just looking along from the sidelines. If he doesn't, then he either has to wait until the perfect woman just falls into his lap (which of course will never happen), or just go lonely.
Now, I'm not saying that he doesn't approach women or try; I wouldn't know if he did. But from my experience, guys who frequent the internet are not exactly social butterflies, so I'm taking a gamble on being right.
I agree you're probably right about a lot of internet people, and i applaud you also for aproaching first. Something most women need to do. not that i have shortfalls with the the kind that do.
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