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Re: Its takes a long time to change. [Re: justamonkey]
    #5857021 - 07/14/06 04:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

sink into the bottom
submit your bill
breathe


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Re: Its takes a long time to change. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5858051 - 07/14/06 01:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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immersing in the moment releases the whole nonsense of separation, concepts and superstition.





'immersion in the moment', what hippy feel-good crap.

there's more to it than that. There is a difference between being a student of reality and being a master of reality. You want to go run around on the playground like a 5 year old, fine. I'll be in the teacher's lounge smoking cigarettes.

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who sold you those wacky souvenirs, docJ?




there's a big difference between believing in what you want to be true and believing what actually is true.

the souveniers are things I've accquired during several lifetimes of experience.


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Re: Its takes a long time to change. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5858381 - 07/14/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

nice - have a smoke with the teachers for me.
stuffy in there.
I guess you really do have several lifetimes worth of funny chachkas.


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Re: Its takes a long time to change. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5858395 - 07/14/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

There is a difference between being a student of reality and being a master of reality.

Not entirely sure what you mean here...you ARE reality. In terms of absolute truth, you and reality are entirely 100% equal. Your big toe nail is equal to a one ton piece of solid gold. You cannot be lesser or greater than reality.

there's a big difference between believing in what you want to be true and believing what actually is true.

If it is actually true, then it requires no belief. How are you so sure it is actually true?


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Re: Its takes a long time to change. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5860575 - 07/15/06 01:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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nice - have a smoke with the teachers for me.
stuffy in there.





yeah, we mainly just complain to eachother and ask ourselves what we did to deserve getting stuck with a bunch of bratty, undisciplined kids as students. 

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Re: Its takes a long time to change. [Re: Icelander]
    #5861318 - 07/15/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Being in the moment is a very important aspect to life and a path to change. The moment can be a very elusive thing, am I in the moment? or am I outside of it? Am I in the moment before? Am I an a moment years ago?

Salvia has taught me so much about time. It is so much more incredible then I previously would have thought possible.

Each moment lives on as its own existence. The power of that moment IS lost in that moment. While time moves on without it... Turn the page.

This knowledge ties in directly with Castaneda's teaching of recapitulation. Taking back your energy from previous moments. Its real, it works.

Time is such an incredible concept, I feel that only part of it lies within our reason. Perhaps my mind is just to simple to grasp it all at once...

I think the important thing is to understand that everything happens when all of your attention is in the moment, thats where you should try and be.


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Re: Its takes a long time to change. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5861468 - 07/15/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
nice - have a smoke with the teachers for me.
stuffy in there.





yeah, we mainly just complain to eachother and ask ourselves what we did to deserve getting stuck with a bunch of bratty, undisciplined kids as students. 

:lol:




wont your 'colleagues' be upset that you are fratrenizing with the riff raff. 'cough cough, could you put that thing out?


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Re: Its takes a long time to change. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5861657 - 07/15/06 11:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

its a dirty job, but someone has to do it :smile:


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Re: Its takes a long time to change. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5861698 - 07/15/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

which is dirty - mingling with riff raff or smoking with the teachers?


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