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OfflineAsianYumYum
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Fucked up mutations
    #5610615 - 05/09/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

posted this in cult but maybe more people might know how to help me in here. ok here's the background info:
i have a test casing 60/40 mix of South american cubensis here. It's at a constant 71-76*, and 80-87% humidity (these are extreem lows and highs mind you). They've been in there for about 10 days. i noticed these pins about 4 days ago. They are getting a lot of fresh air.

that being said, what the hell is this???



The stems are cracked and scaled, the stems have split and have cuts going vertically up them where they aren't already split and curling up, they are almost all white (save some normal brown cubensis cap colors on the other side from the camera) and they seem to have stem cups. they look like goddamn amanitas!!! there are other pins on other casings that are just fine, look real nice and healthy. others think it might be lysol, i did use it to clean the martha the day before i used it, and about an hour before i used my glovebox.
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Re: Fucked up mutations [Re: AsianYumYum]
    #5613724 - 05/10/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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AsianYumYum said:
others think it might be lysol, i did use it to clean the martha the day before i used it, and about an hour before i used my glovebox.
Any thoughts?





Lysol muties is my bet.
Although, those little containers are kind of deep. What sort of FAE do they get? I ask because it may not be sufficient to move the CO2 out of those pans.

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Re: Fucked up mutations [Re: Mycomyth]
    #5614780 - 05/10/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

getting plenty of fresh air, got a nice coolmist on 24/7, the martha is pretty pressurized, the door is always sticking out due to the ammount of fresh air getting pushing inside. and i open it up to mist every day (just the walls).
Here are some more pics of it today.





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Re: Fucked up mutations [Re: AsianYumYum]
    #5615667 - 05/10/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Just look like fatties with some myc growin on top to me :/ Specially if that last pic is of the same shroomies :smile:


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Re: Fucked up mutations [Re: Taskenti]
    #5615734 - 05/11/06 12:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah...like 2 seconds after that pic the veil broke, so i printed it. Here is a pic of the insane fucking bluing instantaneously after removing the cap. those gils definatly look cube. spores on the viel were a nice cube purple.



I NEED TO KNOW IN PROFFESSIONAL OPPINIONS
IS THIS MUSHROOM OK TO CONSUME???
the stem wieghed in at 15.1g wet


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Re: Fucked up mutations [Re: AsianYumYum]
    #5615918 - 05/11/06 01:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

also, im assuming this is either a lysol contam or just myc and a humidity thing. is this mushie sterile? cuz im printing it and i don't want to fuck anything up and it be sterile the whole time.

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Re: Fucked up mutations [Re: AsianYumYum]
    #5616330 - 05/11/06 06:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

There's nothing wrong with that. When you use multispores injection, it's common for more than one substrain to make it to fruiting. That's all you see there. If it only made two fruits, I wouldn't bother cloning it, but printing will be fine. That isn't caused by lysol or anything else. It's genetics.
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Re: Fucked up mutations [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5616595 - 05/11/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i don't think i know anything about substrains. mind explaining them a little? or sending me a link? thanks man.


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Re: Fucked up mutations [Re: AsianYumYum]
    #5621113 - 05/12/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Substrains are reference to genetic variation within a strain. Those shrooms there may be genetically inclined to grow stalky like that, which can inhibit pinning around it, and is probably not worth cloning, because you would be replicating the same fat mushrooms, but if you simply make a print a clone will not be produced, and you have many different spore with different genes that have potential to produce phenotypic variation, which is good if you want a chance to get some spindly shrooms that leave surface area substrate for its siblings to mature.


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