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AlKaBonGG
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Light or dark enviorment for incubation?
#5610545 - 05/09/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Danm I feel fukkin stuppid for askin such a basic question but I seen it go both ways in the PF tek guides. Is this just a mater of preferance?
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: AlKaBonGG]
#5610556 - 05/09/06 09:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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My understanding is that with light, pinning could be initiated. Which would be undesirable.
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: splifner180]
#5610582 - 05/09/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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once had the same question: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5550655 it doesnt matter light or dark. Mine happen to be in the dark, but it's more of a convenience thing
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AlKaBonGG
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: shroomballa]
#5610637 - 05/09/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks Much !
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: shroomballa]
#5610638 - 05/09/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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you can do both but if you incubate in the light you loose light as one of your pinning triggers. this is beucase you will not be able to 'shock' then with lighyt ive they have been sitting in light for weeks.
you still have other pinning triggers left in your hat though.
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: skeletor]
#5610643 - 05/09/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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skeletor said: you can do both but if you incubate in the light you loose light as one of your pinning triggers. this is beucase you will not be able to 'shock' then with lighyt ive they have been sitting in light for weeks.
you still have other pinning triggers left in your hat though.
thats what I was about to say...
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5610666 - 05/09/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
EquilibriuM said:
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skeletor said: you can do both but if you incubate in the light you loose light as one of your pinning triggers. this is beucase you will not be able to 'shock' then with lighyt ive they have been sitting in light for weeks.
you still have other pinning triggers left in your hat though.
thats what I was about to say...

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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: KaptKid]
#5610713 - 05/09/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Look at it this way. In the wild, mushrooms begin fruiting once they reach the surface of their substrate. Once they reach the surface, they are first exposed to light. The light is how they know they have actually reached the surface. Therefore, there is an obvious natural correlation between initial light exposure and the initiation of fruiting. Therefore, I say incubate in the dark.
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: soulsizzle]
#5611641 - 05/10/06 05:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks Everyone! I think I got it . So then it seems that it would be good if they were incubated in the dark at 80 degreez till they fully colonize, then theyr temp should be droped to bout 70 degreez and they should be given light so they start to pin. Then when they pin enoughf and get li'l shroomy bits in it they could go into the FC, right?
Edited by AlKaBonGG (05/10/06 05:57 AM)
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: soulsizzle]
#5611642 - 05/10/06 05:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've always incubated in total darkness which BTW won't prematurely initiate pinning as well as giving me the most bang (triggers) for the buck!
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: hyphae]
#5611646 - 05/10/06 05:59 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is gonna be more fun than a barrel fulla monkeys!
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: AlKaBonGG]
#5611655 - 05/10/06 06:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wrong, all those conditions you described are fruiting conditions, FC conditions. In otherwords when fully colonized they go into the FC. GL
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: hyphae]
#5611688 - 05/10/06 06:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey Hyphae ! Yea thats what I mean. I just wanted to make shure that I got the PF tek down from start to finish. From what I understand ya gotta incubatem at 80 in the dark till theyr fully colonized(a week or 2), then ya lower the heat down to bout 70 and givem light to initate pinning and when they pin ya takem outta theyr jars and putem in the FC and givem temps of about 70 and high humidity and a bit of light to getem to fruit. Do I got this rite?
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: AlKaBonGG]
#5611746 - 05/10/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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nah dude, he just said you gotta put them in the FC after they are fully colonized
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AlKaBonGG
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: TGD21]
#5611795 - 05/10/06 08:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea I think thats what I meen too. If I got a TIT keepin the inoculated jars at about 80 thats suposed to be good for incubatin, then when I see that the jars are fully colonized Im suposed to lower the temp to bout 70 and givem a bit of light until they pin, at wich point Im suposed to birthem into the FC rite? Please have patience with me I think I got it but I could just use a bit of reasurance .
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: AlKaBonGG]
#5611811 - 05/10/06 08:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Holey Shitt! Wait up! I think I get what Yas mean! I could wait for them to colonize in the TIT at 80 degreez and then once their fully colonized I could putem in the FC to get their light and 70 degreez temps, then I could takem outta theyr jars once they start to pin. Is that what Yas mean ?
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: AlKaBonGG]
#5612321 - 05/10/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Much closer but no cigar! LOL Once fully colonized birth them (take them out of the jars) and put them in the FC where conditions are favorable for pinning and fruiting 74-77F and 95-98% RH up until then incubate at 82-86F optimally. GL you'll get it soon enough! Also look up dunking as well as rolling and double ending these will increase yields and are something you'll want to do at birth.
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Edited by hyphae (05/10/06 11:45 AM)
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: hyphae]
#5612387 - 05/10/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Im gonna have to vote dark also. Any conventional hiding place is gonna be dark anyway.
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: SpEX_Moneymaker]
#5612745 - 05/10/06 01:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks Spex! and Thanks again Hyphae! Im gonna do just what Ya sugested bout gettin familiar with dunkin,casin and dubble endin . Im also gunna take your advice bout the 82-86f incubation temps and also what Ya said bout birthinem when their fully colonized into the FC at 74-77f at 95-98%rh ! Thanks again Hyphae! Youl make a Shroomer outta me yet ! Could you recomend me a good brand of humidifyer? Somethin that would take care of 2 x 50 gallon Rubbermaid FC's would be great! Im also figurin out somekinda FAE system but if yous got any sugestions Im listenin !
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: AlKaBonGG]
#5616314 - 05/11/06 05:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Man this is really xcitin ! I dont get out much. Heh heh... Theres some WIKKIDASS systems on this site! -Well I shure do think I got it now. Theyl go from the TIT to the fruit chambers once they fully colonize. -What would be bout the best stuff to put on the floor of the FC's to hold humidity? These things are huge,bout 4'x2'! I figure I'l dunkem before I putem in the FC's but Im still figurin out what I wanna put in the bottom of the FC's to hold the humidity and I still gotta figure out what kinda humidifyer to go with. Mabey I could put the humidifyer betweenem and run the humidity to them threw some dryer vent hose or somethin. Il mount a couple of small fans onem to push air intoem a fyew times a day for FAE and I'l drill some holes near the bottoms for co2 maintainance. I'l cut holes in the tops and coverem with clear plastic for light. Hows all this sound so far? I think I got it covered prety good but I shure would preciate some profesional criteek !
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: AlKaBonGG]
#5616323 - 05/11/06 06:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You'll want to use moist perlite in the bottom and plumb maybe a coolmist in there also using a smaller diameter hose 3/4-1" this will keep more moisture in suspension. The perlite will stabilize your FC's environment tremendously. Read read read is what your going to want to do theres a ton of info that will get those wheels turning in your head bro.
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: hyphae]
#5616381 - 05/11/06 07:33 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wheeeeeeee Doggy Hyphae ! Perlite it is. Il look around and see whatkinda Coolmists most Folks are usin. Thanks again My Brudda for lookin out ! My eyes are all squiggled up but Im gonna smoke up a bowl of some Sweet Herb and search around sommore!
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Re: Light or dark enviorment for incubation? [Re: AlKaBonGG]
#5620166 - 05/12/06 04:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It seems that you could actually tell wich holes got more and wich holes got less inoculation by the way the fuzz developes dont it? So far Im figurin on dunkin the cakes in theyr jars in the fridge overnight once theyr ready and rollinem in some vermiculite unless anyones got any better teks that are easy enoughf for a nube like me but this seems to be the best thing I can do at that point for the effort. Im chekin on a Coolmist to make shure its onna the ones that spin the water onto a round thing like it says somewheres round here and I autta have the pearlite in plenty of time for theyr birthday. I already got the Girls on the left now I'l have the Boys on the right . Damn! Its like havin my own li'l catholic school!
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