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snowflake
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worst strain
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Post the strain you've had the least success with. Mine would be penis envy...
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Oatman2000
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Re: worst strain [Re: snowflake]
#5608920 - 05/09/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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that sux... i am doin PE now
Mine is: Koh Samui Super Strain
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kanpan
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Re: worst strain [Re: snowflake]
#5608941 - 05/09/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mine is: Koh Samui Super Strain
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ChromeCrow
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Re: worst strain [Re: kanpan]
#5608990 - 05/09/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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pink buffalo
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Oatman2000
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chromecrow, i have heard that also
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thefunguy
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doing great with pink buffalo right now, worst would be John Allen. No logical reason why i have such bad luck, but its like how Nichols Cage couldnt steal ELEANOR in gone in 60 seconds, every time i try something goes wrong. Cursed strain
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HippieChick
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Re: worst strain [Re: thefunguy]
#5609092 - 05/09/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'll have to third KSSS .
Thought I'd give it a try with poo and see if it did anybetter . Little early to tell , but looks like nothing but stubs again 
Might just toss that print in the trash after this go .
I have yet to see anything SUPER about it.
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FooMan



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Re: worst strain [Re: snowflake]
#5609096 - 05/09/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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What's wrong with KSSS?

I hear alot of people say that. Maybe a bad batch going around. For me, they kicked ass.
I like Cambos, Puerto Ricans, South Americans and Mexi Cubs.
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FooMan



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HippieChick said: Thought I'd give it a try with poo and see if it did anybetter . Little early to tell , but looks like nothing but stubs again 
Really fat stubs.
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HippieChick
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Re: worst strain [Re: FooMan]
#5609146 - 05/09/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes , but the BE wasn't as good as others.
I keep track in means of BE . By this measure I've found SA,EQ and PE to work best for me so far.
In my book , short and stubby doesn't hold a candle to long,thick and meaty , like PE we'll say 
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Oatman2000
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good point hc....
yes stubby is what happened to me also...
my fav is TC
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Darkenshroom
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Thus far my worst has been F+ All my grows thus far have had relatively decent BE. And good pinsets/fruits. But my F+ grow for some reason my substrain that fruited was weak in potency. 10 grams to peak at level 3....Ick..and they were grown on bulk...*sigh*
KSSS actually interests me, short and stocky has an appeal in some ways. If for nothing else than for the difference.
Darken *smiles*
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KSSS lookls like chunks of birdpoop when dry.
Intense Bodybuzz without a visual trip... i do not like them- Sam I Am
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monstermitch
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KSSS is by far my favorite, achieving a BE around 220 or so with it versus less with others...
Everything else to me is fairly equal, no real weak links per se.
Lets see here... Looks like my worst results so far are with Z strain, but not by much.
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caboomers
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--look real close at his signature^ yea, im working on z right now, wondering why all 4 of my trays are flushing mutants, i wouldnt say its the worst, but mos definitly not all its cracked up to be, as far as agressive etc. etc. compared to others still the same jar time, same poo time, same case time..
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KaptKid
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While KSSS has produced a lot of little fatties it has also been the best visual I have done. Friends have also given me this same feed back. Mine are grown on horse poo.
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SheepworkS
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Re: worst strain [Re: KaptKid]
#5609896 - 05/09/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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write me down for KSSS too. skinny stems, little caps, crapfest compared to the sizeable fruits of B+ or Golden teacher.
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Mead

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#5610237 - 05/09/06 08:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Zen Peddler


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Re: worst strain [Re: Mead]
#5611529 - 05/10/06 03:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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hiu
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Yeah, F+ was the worst, followed by Treasure Coast. Maybe it's just the North American cube strains that lack in potency. I have a theory that the hotter the place it is the strain is from, the more potent they are, ex: TRANSKEI. But it's a pretty weak theory. I haven't grown in years so I'm not up to date on the strains out there though.
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KaptKid
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Re: worst strain [Re: Anonymous]
#5611565 - 05/10/06 04:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I live in S. Texas. Hotter than hell in summer. The shrooms I hunt suck compared to E.Texas. Who Knows, one day I'll have to grow some indoors. The Treasure Coast I grew had great visuals.
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mockeylock
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Re: worst strain [Re: thefunguy]
#5612059 - 05/10/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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thefunguy said: doing great with pink buffalo right now, worst would be John Allen.
Yep, had horrible results with these. Doesn't sound like I'm trying ksss anytime soon either...
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Re: worst strain [Re: KaptKid]
#5612080 - 05/10/06 10:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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KaptKid said: I live in S. Texas. Hotter than hell in summer. The shrooms I hunt suck compared to E.Texas. Who Knows, one day I'll have to grow some indoors. The Treasure Coast I grew had great visuals.
TC is by far my best Visual Trip - (Everytime)
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Nostromo
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For me, and surprisingly, GT were the worst: Small and few shrooms that gave me a terrible trip to hell itself (or so).
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EquilibriuM
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Re: worst strain [Re: Nostromo]
#5612204 - 05/10/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I didnt like the Z strain at all
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BMArts
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The most problems I've had was trying to grow Transkei (south african strain). There's just no way to stop it from overlaying. It did pin but there were only tiny shrooms as a result. They were about as big as aborts usualy are when they matured... hardly an inch of the ground
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hybridphil
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Re: worst strain [Re: BMArts]
#5619204 - 05/11/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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A lot of people seem to be saying that KSSS has been the worst strain to work with for them. What I am wondering, is how does the Koh Samui Classic strain compare to it and anybody who said that KSSS sucks, have you tried growing Classic and how was it different?
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CrazyPsilocybe
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I'm growing Australian right now - anyone have any feedback on aussie? Orissa is pretty tough to grow on cakes, required way too much work & effort. Orissa really likes to have the aborts cut quick.
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caboomers
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i take what i said about z strain back, still the same jar/poo/casing time, i think where it proves its agressiveness is fruiting, just takes time but very agressive
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FooMan



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Re: worst strain [Re: caboomers]
#5660550 - 05/22/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bottom line, people will have different experiences with different strains. Hell, some people may not even be growing the strain they think they are if they got it in a trade or from a shady vendor. I've tripped nuts before from the same batch that my buddy felt nothing from and vice-versa. I've gotten excellent results with strains that I was told sucked and shit results with supposedly great strains. Some do better with less FAE, some with more.
Too many variables with substrains, people, substrates, settings, etc, etc.
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Roadkill
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Re: worst strain [Re: FooMan]
#5660678 - 05/22/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said:
Too many variables with strains, substrains, people, substrates, growing conditions, settings, etc, etc.

I added to your list...
hope you don't mind bro.

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Liquidkick
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Re: worst strain [Re: Roadkill]
#5660727 - 05/22/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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MAZ and B+ Have not fruited whatsoever for me. What i consider fruits.
PESH has been the best followed by PR and EQ.
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FooMan



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Re: worst strain [Re: Roadkill]
#5661302 - 05/22/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Roadkill said:
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FooManShroom said:
Too many variables with strains, substrains, people, substrates, growing conditions, settings, etc, etc.

I added to your list...
hope you don't mind bro.

tc
Not at all! That would be the etc, etc part
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gotyerback
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Re: worst strain [Re: FooMan]
#5663258 - 05/23/06 08:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said: Bottom line, people will have different experiences with different strains. Hell, some people may not even be growing the strain they think they are if they got it in a trade or from a shady vendor. I've tripped nuts before from the same batch that my buddy felt nothing from and vice-versa. I've gotten excellent results with strains that I was told sucked and shit results with supposedly great strains. Some do better with less FAE, some with more.
Too many variables with substrains, people, substrates, settings, etc, etc.
I don't have an argument with this statement, but in the absense of objective and quantifiable data, we have to rely on subjective experiences. In fact, a lot of subjective information, put together actually gives you info that will probably be backed up by scientific experiments. Before there was science, this is what man relied on. That's how man learned eating those red berries will kill you. Of course before science man thought the earth was flat so there you go.
So in other words, I feel that all the "what's the best strain" questions do have merit. We just have to accept them for what they are.
Z strain sucked donkey for my neighbor.
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indianprincess
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Golden Teacher was the worst strain for me. It fruited just fine, but the potency was VERY low. They were grown of Hpoo.
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monstermitch
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well Z strain sucked for you, but it is awesome for me. Every strain is awesome for me. KSSS from THE sucks in my opinion. Experienced growers get bad results. KSSS from Ralph is awesome.
Every cubensis strain I have performs almost exactly the same. It is the grower. Not the strain. Call me wrong, but I have proven it myself. Once you all get better, try it.
Same everything, done side by side. In the end, they all work almost equal. (that THE KSSS seems to be the only case)
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gotyerback
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That's probably true. If my neighbor tried it again, I bet it would be fine.
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Premedman1
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This is not the first time this question has been asked, nor is it the first time the "general" consensus was KSSS sucks. Case in point: Whats the WORSE strain you ever grew??? <-----Clickety
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monstermitch
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Premedman1 said: This is not the first time this question has been asked, nor is it the first time the "general" consensus was KSSS sucks. Case in point: Whats the WORSE strain you ever grew??? <-----Clickety
If you were to ask all those KSSS people who say it sucks, I bet they all got it from the same place. And I bet it wasn't from Ralph. I have Ralph's version, and it looks nothing at all like theirs.
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FooMan



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Quote:
gotyerback said:
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FooManShroom said: Bottom line, people will have different experiences with different strains. Hell, some people may not even be growing the strain they think they are if they got it in a trade or from a shady vendor. I've tripped nuts before from the same batch that my buddy felt nothing from and vice-versa. I've gotten excellent results with strains that I was told sucked and shit results with supposedly great strains. Some do better with less FAE, some with more.
Too many variables with substrains, people, substrates, settings, etc, etc.
I don't have an argument with this statement, but in the absense of objective and quantifiable data, we have to rely on subjective experiences. In fact, a lot of subjective information, put together actually gives you info that will probably be backed up by scientific experiments. Before there was science, this is what man relied on. That's how man learned eating those red berries will kill you. Of course before science man thought the earth was flat so there you go.
So in other words, I feel that all the "what's the best strain" questions do have merit. We just have to accept them for what they are.
Z strain sucked donkey for my neighbor.
So what's the best strain based on all of these subjective experiences? I'll bet you get a hundred different answers to that one too.
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MasFina
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crap, Z strain is what i'm working with now. How is the potency? What was so bad about it?
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monstermitch
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Re: worst strain [Re: MasFina]
#5666283 - 05/23/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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there is nothing wrong with Z strain.
potency is around .75% alkaloids/ dried weight same as any other cubes.
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MasFina
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Well I'm only hearing bad things about it.Maybe people just think it's ugly, I kinda do. I think I need to find some B+ prints or one of those other strains that grows big and thick. I just love the ones with nice big brown caps with little specs on them and thick stems. All I'd have in trade would be Z strain LC though....
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gotyerback
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Re: worst strain [Re: FooMan]
#5668038 - 05/24/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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What's the best strain? You do find a lot of votes for all kinds. When posting a subjective opinion it is important to include the traits you find in that strain. Unlike what I did in just saying Z strain sucked.
The prob with Z - not in colonizing, it ate thru sub like mad. It just had problems fruiting.
And like monstermitch pointed out, if you were to try it again, it would probably have different results.
But if everyone posted that the Funkadelic Strain was prone to upside down caps, I wouldn't be surprised to find upside down caps when I grew it. Since we aren't likely to have scientists doing real testing on magic mushrooms, why discourage posting of people's experiences in growing them?
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MasFina
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People just need to be specific about where they had problems with a particular strain so that others know what to watch for.
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Roadkill
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Re: worst strain [Re: MasFina]
#5668633 - 05/24/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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People just need to be specific about where they had problems with a particular strain so that others know what to watch for.
it's not the whole strain per say...
read what was posted above.
and you can add this to the list....
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5667842#Post5667842
tc
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Psychoslut
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indianprincess said: Golden Teacher was the worst strain for me. It fruited just fine, but the potency was VERY low. They were grown of Hpoo.
I cant believe that. I had the exact same exp. I grew GT on horse poo and my friend ate a quarter ounce and 2 hours later he was like man them are the worste shrooms ever. I wan like ohrly, eat that much of these brazils 
gt is the sux though
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monstermitch
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didn't GT just win a pole of favorite strains?
case in point.
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gema
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hadn't had success with any of the pans. I keep getting weak myc growth.
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monstermitch
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Re: worst strain [Re: gema]
#5669127 - 05/24/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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gema said: hadn't had success with any of the pans. I keep getting weak myc growth.
Pan mycelium is weaker in my opinion. Not thick and rope like with cubes, more light and whispy. Delicate.
That's that way all my pans are. Kind of sissy mycelium. But a fast mover.
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