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bluelou
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Ayahuasca brewers/dreamers failures?
#5608387 - 05/09/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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My report.......and question?
Had got some aya stuff from BBB and nothing worked? Seems a shame to spend money for nothing,not even a tingle.. ANy folks have the same to report a dud after brewing for hours? Thanks!
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Re: Ayahuasca brewers/dreamers failures? [Re: bluelou]
#5608955 - 05/09/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe some more details on what you got and how you prepared it would be useful. This doesn't give us much to go on.
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Re: Ayahuasca brewers/dreamers failures? [Re: bluelou]
#5609123 - 05/09/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I had some MHRB from BBB about five years ago, only brewed it (12gms) for maybe an hour and it was very good. Later extracted it down to around 5mg/1gm. I know its common to boil for long amounts of time w/o destroying alkaloids, maybe you got a dud batch?
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Re: Ayahuasca brewers/dreamers failures? [Re: schmutzen]
#5618374 - 05/11/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok,ill explain......
Used Yellow,Red,and a little black B.Caapi at around 100grms. Boiled the caapi for at least 6 hours,the 3 boils and strain tek...... Added the 3 extractions together and added 65grms P.Viridis. Then boiled them all for another 2 hours or untill reduced to a big plastic cup size.Drank it with NO effects at all,but i also have more!!
Got another 90grms caapi and 25grma chaliponga this time same BBB stuff. Ofcorse i go over to ayahuasca.com all the time and i followed the tek right... SOmetimes they just do NOT work i know so maybe the next will??? Thanks for the comments!
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Re: Ayahuasca brewers/dreamers failures? [Re: bluelou]
#5618632 - 05/11/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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That is weird. 70gms Caapi had me between the Angels and Sea for a good three hours, way tooo much for me. I know PV can vary a lot, but I don't understand why you didn't get any MAOI effect?
I have read at ayahuasca.com that sometimes they 'just don't work' as well, but my scientific mind says that's a little too bizzare for me to believe...
You might want to give the RootBark a try before Chali, i hear the latter is for the more experienced.
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Re: Ayahuasca brewers/dreamers failures? [Re: schmutzen]
#5619697 - 05/11/06 11:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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its about soul man you have to put your soul into it
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Re: Ayahuasca brewers/dreamers failures? [Re: thedudenj]
#5624578 - 05/13/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
thedudenj said: its about soul man you have to put your soul into it
As DNJ states and Namaste (kinda) states many, MANY people believe that the vine will tell you when you are ready and will give you what you need at the time. From things that I've witnessed first-hand, I have to say I'm inclined to believe it and that in the very least, intention has a lot to do with it.
But, just
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Re: Ayahuasca brewers/dreamers failures? [Re: VirgilKane]
#5638129 - 05/16/06 03:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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does caapi need an maoi, like syrian rue, like mimosa does.
I have gotten supplies from bbb, but my batch consisted of mimosa and rue. One thing that I noticed the first time I drank the ayahuasca was that the experience was very mild, almost to the point where it was a perceived high of some sorts. For me the aya is very directable, however I was expecting a shroom or lsd experience the first time and that never came. My next few tries with aya I began to direct the experience and it has been amazing ever since, now each trip tends to continue from where the last one left off.
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Re: Ayahuasca brewers/dreamers failures? [Re: ImNtCrzy]
#5738891 - 06/11/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I realize this is a little old now, but:
The issue isn't that source's (which really shouldn't be listed in this context) caapi, nor its mhrb, nor its rue. Those are all fine. Its viridis, on the other hand, might as well be oak leaves. They're just useless.
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Re: Ayahuasca brewers/dreamers failures? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5743332 - 06/12/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Terence McKenna, one of the foremost Western experts on ayahuasca, said that for unknown reasons DMT has no effect on roughly 1 in 20 people who take it. It has something to do with pineal gland chemistry and the enzymes that rapidly break down DMT in the body. That wouldn't explain the lack of effects from the MAOI, but I suppose it could be part of the explanation.
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Re: Ayahuasca brewers/dreamers failures? [Re: Lion]
#5743434 - 06/12/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rick Strassman goes into detail about the other 'defenses' the body has against DMT. MAO enzymes was one, there was another which he suggested more specifically kept it in check. I don't have my book anymore, and don't remember how much of it was just theory. I assume a good deal theory.
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