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Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping?
    #5608190 - 05/09/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I read an article not too long ago about "Teens re-discovering morning glories", where the reporter claims "some kids even thought they could fly". *roll eyes*, and in pretty much ANY media article I read about psychedelics, someone always mentions 'kids thinking that they can fly' and jumping off of buildings/etc and ending up dead or seriously injured.

Now, I am curious - is there even really a case of this happening? Has anyone ever thought they could actually fly (even if they didnt act on it). I cant help but think that the claims of kids trying to fly while high is just pure media BS - but who knows?

For me, the closest I've come to it, is along the lines of : Being afraid that I would think I could fly.

To elaborate. Was at a rooftop-condo party, mushrooms hit me far harder then they ever have before (or since actually), and I kept being afraid that I would do something stupid like think I could fly and jump off the building, so I was terrified to go near any of the balcony edges, and any time I got near an edge, I'd run back to a corner and cower in fear for a bit, and at random parts of the night I'd drop to my hands and knee's just to ensure I wasnt falling to my death :P

So I had the fear that I would do something stupid like that, but never at any point, regardless of how far I've been gone, think that I could fly.

I've felt weightless before, I've had the sensation of floating/flying, but never at any point, have I ever thought "Hey, if I jump out this window I'll float away"

While I wouldnt be supprised if it has happened a VERY small number of times in the past -- is it really that common?

Dunno, just bugs me that every time I read about psychedelcis in the mainstream media, they bring out the 'and they think they could fly!' line.


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: kaniz]
    #5608223 - 05/09/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

no, im not an idiot lol.........when im tripping THAT hard, chances are I think I cant get OFF the ground.

While running in a forrest i felt almost like i was flying through the air, but thats all i can think of.


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: kaniz]
    #5608238 - 05/09/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well, this isn't quite thinking one can fly, but I have heard some interesting things from my friends.

Once, my friend was having sort of a get together on a second floor of an apartment, with a balcony I think, it might have been 3rd floor. Now, under the balcony there was a park, and it was a beautiful summer day, and my friend was on a good amount of acid at the time. So, he was having urges to jump, not because he thought he could fly, but just because the ground looked very inviting and the park was so beautiful and he just wanted to. Not to hurt himself either, but apparently it just looked rather inviting. He decided against it.

The funny part is, he left the room for a bit and came back. When he came his friend had jumped off and hadn't hurt himself or anything haha. My friend said he was jealous he hadn't had the guts to do it.

But yeah, that's as close as Ive heard.


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: michael_lifshitz]
    #5608253 - 05/09/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

no, hell no. I've been tripping VERY hard on roofs/balconies etc and I never thought I could fly. In fact, I felt very aware of the difference between roof and air, lol. I tend to really like positions that give a high vantage point while tripping, but my mind has never said fly.

I've also been on docks and breakers sticking out over the ocean, and never did my mind say swim, lol


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5608258 - 05/09/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

lol isnt it hampsters that think they can fly?
seriously though i think that did happen like once or twice, and that's all it takes for the media to latch onto it. The government even ran a test on some scientist with secret dosings of lsd and one of the scientist "jumped out the window" but theres a theory about it being a murder.
More likely is -i think- i read somewhere that sometimes on a heavy trip, you will percieve a window or door as a portal and feel the need to jump through the amazingly beautiful portal. so uh... ya stay away from those glowing portals, cause the other side might be a 1000 ft drop! still i imagine its rare, ive never had it happen...


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: SgtBob]
    #5608265 - 05/09/06 11:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

^--- True

I actually remeber a story that a friend of mine told me. She got a call from a friends of hers, in which she could only make out alot of laughing, her friend saying "LSD .. come over"

My friend goes over, and all the people there are tripping. At one point one of the girls thought she could see a portal. The way her appartment was laid out was a HUGE loft space, like 14ft cielings, and there was a storage area near the top that they usually needed a ladder to reach.

Anywho, two of the people tripping decided to try and get to the portal (everyone who was tripping saw it), and one of them got ontop of another persons shoulders to try and get up to it, when they still couldnt reach, she wanted him to get a chair to stand on so she could stand on his shoulders so she could reach the portal. Thankfully my friend (who was sober) noticed what they were doing and stopped them before it turned into a nasty accident :P


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: kaniz]
    #5608296 - 05/09/06 11:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yoow! that coulda turned into a big pile of broken necks and legs and arms, followed by a very stunned and confused crowd. lol then they might think the portal is making fun of them and burn it down. haha


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Can the critics still deny that the geometry of matter is directly related to the harmonic interweaving of light itself? There is no substance, in the absolute sense. We live in a reality of un-reality; all is an illusion and the stuff that dreams are made of. Our physical world is nothing more than a resonating ball of light and shade."

"If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things through narrow chinks of his cavern."


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: SgtBob]
    #5608436 - 05/09/06 11:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sure it's happened.. Actually, I think I've heard something on the news about it. But, this is just ONE case out of however many that do trip. That one case fuels the government and media to spread and exaggerate propaganda. That's all it takes is one incident, and it becomes an evil drug.

One thing that completely contradicts this is alcohol. No matter how many deaths, no matter how many serious injuries, alcohol will never be as "bad" or "wrong" as a hallucinogen.


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: hoboblues]
    #5608467 - 05/09/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Too many people make too much money off alcohol (and tobacco) for them to become illegal (again, in the case of alcohol)


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: ezsefix]
    #5608484 - 05/09/06 12:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

One time in my bathroom, I started to think I could fly and then busted into laughter once I realized I couldn't and because of the psychedelic stereotype.


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    #5608503 - 05/09/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: soulcircus]
    #5608564 - 05/09/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've wished I could fly, but never actually believed it. For me it seems like if I feel that psychotic, moving really isn't an option so I'm no danger to myself anyway.

I think that scare tactic could come from people who have jumped off high things trying to kill themselves do to a bad trip more than thinking they were gonna survive. After all, once a person dies, they can't really tell their story.


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5611610 - 05/10/06 05:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think it's just natural selection in action - humans normally have an aversion to heights and the ones that don't keep their defective genes out of the pool...


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: Roker]
    #5611657 - 05/10/06 06:07 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

...Although, I did once think that if I thought hard enough I could change my physical location. I'd close my eyes and I'd see this massive grid of cubes expand before me, and this grid was reality, and if I thought hard enough I could change my location in this grid, and in turn - my physical location would change also.

After 3 or 4 attempts of thinking really hard and re-opening my eyes to realize I was still in my bed, I realized that this was a rather silly thought to have. But dammnit! I was so sure if I thought hard enough I could travel through space/time.


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: kaniz]
    #5611933 - 05/10/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

When your on such an high you think anything is possible.
My last trip; a beautiful sunny Friday afternoon. My buddy and I came out of the mall..(which we both agreed was one big Cartoon--the people, the stores, the hallucinations).
We went to this field that is all dug up waiting for construction...it was like another land. Looking up at the beautiful blue sky filled with clouds..I thought to myself...Why arn't we up there..or atleast trying to get up there? Up to the sky..way up high...we all come from the ground, and we all look up to the sky..the birds, the planes, the clouds that fly.
I wanna fly high in the sky; that's what were here for.
yeeeh Mushrooms. Lower dosages are incredible...especially if you want to experience the dreaded, miserable public.


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: kaniz]
    #5612105 - 05/10/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I would say its an urban myth or at least not a common occurance if it has happened.

Theres loads of repeated "trippin" urban myths round here.


"He thought he was an orange so he peeled himself!"

"He was cutting a cucumber and he kept cutting till he'd chopped his arm into slices!"

To name a couple I've heard.


I had a friend who thought he had gone crazy and was never coming back. He was about to ring the men in white suits until someone calmed him down. He was fine again the next day.

This is quite a common experience though!


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: Ego Death]
    #5612139 - 05/10/06 10:33 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've only known one person who's had an incredibly bad reaction to a psychedelic (I'm talking bad as in almost killed/seriously injured himself/others. For the record from what I understand this person was more or less ignored as a kid, spent grade 7-8 living out of a crack house, had already been through heroin, meth, and various other addictions by the time he reached grade 9, spent literally 3-5 months on E (by which I mean just buying a constant supply and dosing it whenever he had to do something that wasn't going to be fun) and just generally doesn't seem like he'd be the most mentally stable person around... Though I give him a huge amount of credit for successfully raising his sister and taking on the responsibility of filling in the gaps in parenting she was missing despite all this...)

He had taken a couple hits of acid for the first time. Started getting annoyed, then angry, then violent. I wasn't there personally but him and a few other people I talked to who were there said they honestly thought he was going to kill himself and everyone around him, and he doesn't take any pride in this or have anything to gain from lying about it so I have no reason to doubt what he's saying...

So yeah, fucked up things can happen to people while they're tripping... I think it's possible for someone to believe they're an orange and skin their face if the person is weak minded and dumb enough to allow a drug to impair their thoughts to such an extent. People get stupid thoughts and ideas on psychedelics... Some just seem to lack the mental ability that most people have to kick in and say "no, you know that's not true".

Speaking of extreme results of LSD... Three cheers for Zanta! (If you don't get it... You don't get it)


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: StickyWater]
    #5612720 - 05/10/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think the myth that people think they can fly on shrooms has something to it. It's not that they actually think they can fly. But it's more like, it doesn't sounds as ridicilous(sp?) as it would sound sober. On high doses you can perhaps convince them they can fly. Hell you can convince them of anything in their state of mind.

Something I wanna add too. You dream on DMT right(so I heard)? I have flown in my dreams and I was also very, very aware of how to do it. I don't know if dreaming is anything like a DMT experience though. I'll leave that to the people who have had the privilege to experiment with it.


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: Animals]
    #5613073 - 05/10/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Animals said:
One time in my bathroom, I started to think I could fly and then busted into laughter once I realized I couldn't and because of the psychedelic stereotype.




lol


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Re: Have you ever thought that you could fly while tripping? [Re: mikeownow]
    #5613123 - 05/10/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well On a very potent acid trip I flew into space but I just lifted of the ground I never felt I would actually have to jump out of a window or somthing....


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