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heart problems while stoned
    #5606165 - 05/08/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

2 years ago in grade 11 I used to smoke weed almost every weekend and sometimes during the week,and it was really fun during the summer of grade 11 I started experimenting with other drugs like shrooms.

Then when grade 12 was just starting on September 10 2004 I did allot of shrooms at my friends house and had a not so pleasant trip,ever since then I cant smoke weed and enjoy it.when i do i trip out so hard and my heart pounds,my neck gets tight and i shake uncontrollably.

I quit smoking weed altogether.I didn't want to but i couldn't smoke weed and have a good time like i did in grade 11.I tried starting up again,and started slow only taking a couple hoots.but then when i would get stoned enough it would happen again.does any body know how to stop this from happening.I don't think its a panic attack because I'm calm the whole time and i am breathing normally but then my heart starts going BOOM boom boom boom BOOM boom boom boom and its really uncomfortable


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: run_rabbit_run]
    #5606182 - 05/08/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

either give in to the intensity or give up smoking
you want smokign to be the same...well it probably wont,things change,accept it or dont do it anymore.
maybe your tellign yourself soemthing is different (which it is) but then thinkign that its wrong to feel that way,which causes discomfort


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: run_rabbit_run]
    #5606188 - 05/08/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Marijuana increases your heart rate for sure- which explains you being calm and your heart going "BOOM boom boom (I want you in my room... to spend the night foreverrr, forever in my room) "... haha sorry, that really just made me think of that horrific song!

Take deep breathes and try not to focus in on it as much and try not to dwell on past negative experiences, and this BOOM boom booming should slowly fade away- however if it really is as an intense beating of your heart then you really shouldn't be smoking. Maybe get your heart checked out as well?


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5606199 - 05/08/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

HAHA! god i hate that song, but yeah i think im gonna try mededtating or somthing because i miss weed alot,I used to be able to smoke joint after joint with friends and just have the funnest time.but now its almost unbarable


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: run_rabbit_run]
    #5606209 - 05/08/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The EXACT same thing happened to me after i got into mushrooms. I still smoke and i just remember that the heart thing is just a hollucination. Your heart isnt in any kind of danger. I just remember that no one has ever died from mushrooms or herbs so its no big deal. I just ry to relax and pay attention to what im doing instead of whats going on inside my body. If i were you i wouldnt give up on herb all together. Peace


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: hot48yearolds]
    #5606227 - 05/08/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hmm thanks ill try some experiments. Thats odd that that happened to you to after taking mushrooms.I wonder what it is that triggers this to happen?


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: hot48yearolds]
    #5606231 - 05/08/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

^^ Well don't give up something you truly love :smile:

Great idea to meditate before though- be one with the zen, hehe. 


May I suggest trying a few hits BY YOURSELF and not around friends, until you get the hang of it again?  But like others said, you have to remember that you aren't going to die and that your heart-rate will increase on THC- but that's perfectly normal.  Let us (me) know how it goes , I wish you the best of luck and hope you can dance with Mary again soon


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5606252 - 05/08/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

sounds good


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: AlwaysFlowin]
    #5606283 - 05/08/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That used to happen to me. That is until I was diagnosed with Panic attack and anxiety Disorder. And my Doctor gave me PAXIL. I still notice the pounding heart I just don't really care about it anymore. I quit for a little until the Paxil kicked in.

One Time when I was smoking I thought I was having a heart attack because I sat down and my chest started burning and then I couldn't sit down and I was just walking around until I came down from my High.

Do you have any of these symptoms? * raging heartbeat
* difficulty breathing, feeling as though you 'can't get enough air
* terror that is almost paralyzing
* nervous, shaking, stress
* heart palpitation, feeling of dread
* dizziness, lightheadedness or nausea
* trembling, sweating, shaking
* choking, chest pains, distress
* fear, fright, afraid, anxious
* hot flashes, or sudden chills
* tingling in fingers or toes ('pins and needles')
* fearful that you're going to go crazy or are about to die
So its kinda all in your head. Try not to think about it. Like just have friends with you or listen to some Pink Floyd - Echoes. I LOVE PINK FLOYD. Fav band.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: run_rabbit_run]
    #5606325 - 05/08/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have the exact same problem, I didn't eat shrooms however, it just kind of happened. I was an avid pot smoker but now every time i try and smoke weed my mind goes crazy. I feel as if I'm going to have a heart attack, I panic and start getting these tremors. Knowing that isn't a normal feeling I've quit altogether. This kind of disappoints me though because i loved the feeling i used to get when I was high. oh well.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: Ashford]
    #5606332 - 05/08/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I was thinking about getting some of that medication just for when I do drugs and start getting the fear.but then I wont be able to deal with these probalems on my own.and i think this is somthing that is 100% preventable.

Pink floyd is my favorite band to,followed by the doors.nomatter how many time i listen to the light my fire keyboard solo i dont think ill ever get sick of it


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: run_rabbit_run]
    #5606504 - 05/08/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well you said you are completely calm and the only issue is your heart pounding. It's an entirely different story if anxiety as well, is involved.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: run_rabbit_run]
    #5606535 - 05/08/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've got the same problem.  I doubt shrooms triggered it, though.  I started getting panic attacks because my heart was pounding so hard, so I stopped smoking for 7 months, and had no desire to smoke for the longest time.  I gained an interest in trying it again and had a pretty good time for a couple weeks of smoking, then it did it again.  I didn't have a panic attack, but my heart was pounding out of my chest and I nearly fainted.. and this was from only one hit of dank.  I've got no clue what triggers my heart to do this.. sometimes it's "normal"(given THC increases heart rate a bit), and sometimes my heart pounds so hard it shakes my whole body.  :undecided:  It may have to do with how much THC is in the bud.  Try smoking some middies or less.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: hoboblues]
    #5606552 - 05/08/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

something to do would be to possibly grow your own weed or find a different dealer. certain strains of marijuana don't have the "fast heartbeat" effect, or at least not as much as others. I don't know much about it, but I believe the high indica content strains more often produce the fast heartbeat/couchlock effect.

down here in FL it's practically all we get, or all I can find anyway, and everyone accepts it as "what weed is supposed to be like." I however, remember being able to smoke pot and wanting/being able to go out and do things. so just remember, though all weed has a standard effect on you, certain strains will have other effects.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: HeadTripVertigo]
    #5606803 - 05/08/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I live in british columbia were the weed is supposed to be the best in the world,I dunno if this is true but all the out of province people that come here get really messed up when they smoke maybe i should just try to grow my own not as potent weed


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: run_rabbit_run]
    #5606868 - 05/08/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I took a break from smoking weed for awhile, I just quit after smoking heavily for a year. After coming back to it after my break, I found that I had the same problem. I've realized though that I had just gotten used to it before, gradually building up from smoking a little to eventually smoking alot and abruptly going back into smoking heavily produced effects that I wasn't able to handle again. I kinda like being a light weight again, I get insanely stoned off a very small amount =)


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: harrybosetti]
    #5607148 - 05/09/06 12:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm with you guys on this one. One day it's like my pot mentality just broke down and now whenever I get really stoned, I just feel nervous, jittery, heart pounds, mind races. You know, "The Fear." It's just really uncomfortable. All I did though was quit for a while and it eased up a bit. I smoke about three times a day now, but only minute amounts at a time, so I haven't had any problems lately.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: supersapien]
    #5607172 - 05/09/06 12:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

anxiety i have it too and my heart doctor says its as good as when i was in military school, try xanax that stops my chest pain when i smoke


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: run_rabbit_run]
    #5607495 - 05/09/06 03:16 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I dont believe that it is a panic attack and most doctors are pretty ignorant of the physiological effects of marijuana.
Marijuana creates a state of postural hypotension in some people. This manifests at its worse in fainting in some rare people, but in most it may cause dizziness. When blood pressure is reduced to the brain, your body turns on your norepinephrine to increase blood pressure to the brain.
However, this actually has a negative effect as well, as it can dilate the carotid arteries, meaning a further decrease in blood pressure to the brain.
The result of all this is that your dizzy and spaced out (apart from being stoned! :smile: ) and your autonomic nervous system is going crazy from norepinephrine - with symptoms like anxiety, heart palpitations, tachycardia, hand tremors and feeling clamy.
Feel for people with Dysautonomia - without medication these people can feel like this 24/7.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5607541 - 05/09/06 03:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yup. At first, it started with weed. Then over a couple years, without smoking BTW, it became a horrible constant in my life. Im typing this while a XANAX sits under my tongue. Thank god for benzos.... Even if I dont take a big enough hit to get me high, I still have the problems. Mostly heart palpitations.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: FungusMan]
    #5607547 - 05/09/06 03:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

But do you have an anxiety disorder or do you have dysautonomia - which is a phsyiological condition caused by impaired norepinephrine reuptake?
Are you dizzy or are you suffering from anxiety that is causing the fight/flight response?


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5607554 - 05/09/06 03:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh I definitely think I have an anxiety disorder. But again, I don't know. My health history is fucked. I had to have radioactive iodine to kill my thyroids due to hyperthyroidism. 2 years later, and they still haven't regulated the amounts of TPH in my blood. I have allot of heart palps even if I'm not in a attack. They are trying to get me to take Zoloft, but going impotent isn't worth trading in my Xanax's lol. Same thing happened with Prozac.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: missmush]
    #5608893 - 05/09/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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missmush said:
I have the exact same problem, I didn't eat shrooms however, it just kind of happened. I was an avid pot smoker but now every time i try and smoke weed my mind goes crazy. I feel as if I'm going to have a heart attack, I panic and start getting these tremors. Knowing that isn't a normal feeling I've quit altogether. This kind of disappoints me though because i loved the feeling i used to get when I was high. oh well.


Talk with your doctor, just list all those symptoms and he should give you something


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: soulcircus]
    #5609832 - 05/09/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This has happened to me as well.  It first started during a very high dosage trip where i could feel my heart beating really hard and fast and then all of a sudden not feel anything anymore, of course this scared the living shit out of me and I was sure that I was going to die.  After that i never touched such a high dose of shrooms but even in small trips i started to notice it, maybe it was in my head but it still bothered me.

Soon I began to notice the same thing when i smoked.  When I would smoke it would put me into a mild trip and my heart would start to beat really hard and fast and i'd start to get nervous and then a second later the pounding in my chest would stop and i'd start to notice it a short time later.  Its not like it stops beating (although occasionally i was almost sure that it skipped a beat)  I believe that I've just become more aware of it.  Especially when i'm trying to fall asleep while still high or after a trip I almost always get this feeling.

I've given up tripping for a while, its been almost a month and I think its gotten much better than it was.  I still smoke about every day but it seems like the whole heart thing is slowly going away.
In the meantime, i'm going to start trying to eat better and get a membership at a local healthclub so i can workout(i'm tired of being scrawny).  Although I am planning a trip sometime soon, maybe next week after finals.  :thumbup:


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: Ashford]
    #5610100 - 05/09/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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missmush said:
I have the exact same problem, I didn't eat shrooms however, it just kind of happened. I was an avid pot smoker but now every time i try and smoke weed my mind goes crazy. I feel as if I'm going to have a heart attack, I panic and start getting these tremors. Knowing that isn't a normal feeling I've quit altogether. This kind of disappoints me though because i loved the feeling i used to get when I was high. oh well.


Talk with your doctor, just list all those symptoms and he should give you something




I really dislike talking to my doctor, he never seems to really care what I'm telling him. So I've taken it upon myself to find something to help me, Ive started smoking Calea Zacatechichi, I found that it helps with my anxiety and doesn't make me as nervous, just leaves me with a pleasantly calm feeling, and you have some wonderful dreams. The taste however takes awhile to get use to


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: missmush]
    #5610454 - 05/09/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I dunno what the big fuss is. I used to smoke pot and I could feel that every single time. Your heart pumps really fast and powerfully.

I have spoken to many other pot smokers and the general consensus is that it is completely normal.

If you don't like it, don't smoke pot.

I will also add that it probably always happened and you only started noticeing it and worrying about it after you took the mushrooms.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: oO_wombat_Oo]
    #5610969 - 05/09/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Its partly from stress and partly from the adrenaline of your paranoia,

Also being a pot head isn't the healthiest habit, but you hardly will have a heart attack, I've ingested over an 8th, it was rough and I was so high that I lost my total sense of feeling but pot is natural, as rough as it can be and it can be rough, you won't get a heart attack from it.

You probably need to cut back though, become more of light weight smoker.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: soulcircus]
    #5611496 - 05/10/06 03:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

actually that isnt correct- psilocybin releases amounts of norepinephrine and if someone had an enlarged heart that could result in tachycardia and fibrilation - death in other words :wink:
Unlikely - but possible if one had a heart condition already.
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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5611531 - 05/10/06 04:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Do you know how much damage you have to do to yourself to get a heart attack, heart palpitations aren't a sign of having a heart attack, either is your heart beating fast, adrenaline makes your heart beat fast, such as when you run or when you get scared

Bud can stress you out though, the harmful chemicals from the smoke and not staying healthy can cause a panic attack, plus when you got a bad experience etched in your mind that doesn't help either.

Bud is notorious in making people paranoid, especially when you get too high or you smoke too much. The best thing to do is calm yourself down by laying down, slow your breathing and try to relax, being all freaked out compounds the agony, of course its not enjoyable but it doesn't help to focus on heart attacks and how hard your heart is beating

Of course this is bud I'm talking about, if your doing something then maybe I'd have a different opinion about it.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: capliberty]
    #5611620 - 05/10/06 05:33 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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you won't get a heart attack from it.





I did. I got a heart attack from pot.
When you have a subtle pre-existing condition pot can give you a heart attack. I also got several hundred instances of angina pectoris because of weed, but I was a fool to believe weed was "harmless".


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: Asante]
    #5611693 - 05/10/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What type of subtle pre-existing condition? I doubt your pre-existing condition was subtle if pot triggered this heart attack.

What actually occurred when you had this heart attack? Was this an actual heart attack or massive panic attack? If you give a description of what occurred I could tell you if this was an actual heart attack.

Heart attacks are characterized with heaviness to chest, like a ton of bricks weighing down on your chest, It also hits in waves, Its not your heart skipping beats or minor convulsions, also your blood pressure sky rockets and loss of feeling also occurs through out your body. Also you may have trouble breathing and the heaviness to the chest can stay constant for lengthy periods and may increase at certain times.

Do you know for sure that it was bud that caused this? If this is the case and you were just a regular person with average health before this occurred then I'm shocked that bud did this. If you had health complications, asma problems or a weak heart to begin with then maybe I could believe it but I wouldn't classify these as a subtle pre-existing conditions. Even people with asma can get away with smoking.

Your heart and your body can take some serious abuse before heart failure would be triggered, I've used and abused many drugs and I know that it depends on each individuals health but marijuana unless your a fool and ingest a huge quantity I doubt could send you into heart attack unless it made you extremely dehydrated or something which I guess could be possible. Or maybe your arteries and lungs got clogged up from heavy smoking which contributed to this heart attack. If this is the case I'm shocked, because I've smoked and gotten too high plenty of times but never any serious life threatening heart failure.

Now meth. coke, pills, heroin or anything related to these types of drugs I believe you. But pot or shrooms, thats a stretch for me to believe. Its probably like MDMA which there has been reported cases of people dying or going through serious trauma but its like 2% out of a 100.

I mean think about if people were getting heart attacks off this stuff then pot would classified up there with meth. and coke and all these hardcore drugs, this stuff wouldn't be given to cancer patients and wouldn't be partly legal in the state of Alaska and Canada. Marijuana crops would looked at as meth. labs or something. I know marijuana is not as nearly as harmful as pills, meth. or coke. or alcohol for that matter. It doesn't even have as strong of physical addictive properties as caffeine or cigarettes.

I know it can be unhealthy to be pothead but come on dude this shit isn't fucking crack.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: capliberty]
    #5611976 - 05/10/06 09:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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What actually occurred when you had this heart attack? Was this an actual heart attack or massive panic attack? If you give a description of what occurred I could tell you if this was an actual heart attack.




I was rushed to the Intensive Care Unit, hastily intubated, hooked up to machines and tubes, nitroglycerin patched, blood drawn for troponin levels, which were elevated for more than 24 hours, and the subsequent night I kept bouncing towards the brink of death and back again.
You tell me! Was this a heart attack or merely panic on my part?

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What impressed me most was the near-fainting dizzyness, cold sweat, gasping for breath and freezing up because every movement or talking made it worse. You just sit there, bracing, praying, begging God to make it go away so you can call 911.

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Do you know for sure that it was bud that caused this?




Yes. It also caused numerous angina pectoris attacks and at least two instances where I think I might just have had slightly smaller attacks.

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If you had health complications, asma problems or a weak heart to begin with then maybe I could believe it but I wouldn't classify these as a subtle pre-existing conditions.




Only weed gave me angina pectoris. Running for 10 miles didnt give me AP, but even small joints did that a lot of the time during the first hour after smoking. I'm not going into details but it is genetic, present from birth, and only flared up when I smoked or ate pot. The heart attack, ofcourse, changed all that.
But no, if weed causes it its not subtle.

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Even people with asma can get away with smoking.





Perhaps people with "asma" can, but people with asthma often cant be around a wisp of smoke of any kind, and while it provides temporary relief (like does smoking datura) this is a pharmacologic effect masking the fact that the smoke irritates the lungs.

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Now meth. coke, pills, heroin or anything related to these types of drugs I believe you. But pot or shrooms, thats a stretch for me to believe.




Heroin would be OK for me, and opiates in fact are widely used on the heart ward because their effects tend to be beneficial to many kinds of heart trouble.
And you can't possibly group pot with shrooms pharmacologically.

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Its probably like MDMA which there has been reported cases of people dying or going through serious trauma but its like 2% out of a 100.




Only one in a million dies because of MDMA and most of those are severe allergy cases.

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this stuff wouldn't be given to cancer patients




Mustard gas derivatives are given to cancer patients causing loss of hair and nails to fall out. That it's given to cancer patients is no criterion for safety, in fact almost anything goes when its cancer because of it often being terminal.

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Marijuana crops would looked at as meth.




Cannabis: Schedule 1
Methamphetamine: Schedule 2

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I know marijuana is not as nearly as harmful as pills, meth. or coke. or alcohol for that matter. It doesn't even have as strong of physical addictive properties as caffeine or cigarettes.




Cannabis is comparatively safe. That does not mean it IS in fact safe. The population is VERY diverse. Most people have several ailments they may or may not be aware of. For some of those people, like me, cannabis can be lethal.


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Re: heart problems while stoned [Re: Asante]
    #5612089 - 05/10/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well sorry dude you are a special case I think though, for the general population I think pot is relatively safe, Its still strange to me how pot can do this to you,

I think though you might have to chill altogether or something on drugs if your body is that sensitive from a genetic deficiency, for your body to single out pot as a trigger to your heart condition is weird to me, Although I'm still unclear what actually happened to you in the ER. Total discription of chest, back or shoulder pains, would help, the dizziness fainting and chills is a sure symptom and how were your enzymes, how did it first hit you, did it feel like you were going to go unconsious or was it sharp pains I'm still unclear. But I guess who cares it was serious never the less.

Pot causing you to go to the emergency room bracing for life is some crazy shit, Yeah your pre-existing condition doesn't sound subtle,
Glad you made it through though. I'm sure it was a shit your pants tough ass fight, so I hope you be careful from now on cause if I had that condition I'd probably end up accidentally killing myself.


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    #5612123 - 05/10/06 10:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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for the general population I think pot is relatively safe




You should change your perception of "the general population".
All of us are chuck full of all sorts of abnormalities in our inner workings. And many of us have instances and drugs to which our bodies react strongly. (like people with bee allergy)

For the average person oral THC (you shouldnt smoke anything) is fairly safe, but to some of us it is not. And now comes the catch: there is absolutely no telling if you are going to be that person.

If you regularly get chest discomfort the writing is on the wall, but often seemingly perfectly healthy people react extremely adversely to such stimuli.

The weed scene is contaminated by the notion that it is harmless, a result of the naive 1960s when nothing was really known medically about it. For most people moderate use is without harm, but for othersit can be devastating, most notably people with pre-existing cardiovascular and lung ailments, which they may be blissfully unaware of.

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I'm sure it was a shit your pants tough ass fight, so I hope you be careful from now on





I'm quite intense, but yes, it was one hell of a fight. It was however the night that made a man out of me, the ordeal known as a rite of passage. If it wasnt so dangerous and didnt scar your heart muscle I could recommend it to almost anyone. There is nothing like a prolonged encounter with your own death to wake you up in life.

You won't go before your time, and when your time has come God will not be swayed. Your body will seep back into the soil, your soul takes to the skies and you'll reincarnate forever, into Infinity.


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    #5612151 - 05/10/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Sounds like a mushroom thing

Hey intesity is good thing but internal failure isn't so no more rights of passage, but I know what your talking about,


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