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Ego Death
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Poppy q's
#5605929 - 05/08/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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When should one sow ones seeds in the UK?
How many pods would it take to produce 1 gram of raw opium?
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Mike_yy


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Your seeds should be out right now.
Your suppost to plant them straight after the frosts end, or i think you can put them out the autumn the year before you want them to grow.
It would take you hundreds to get a gram. Swim never weighed his amount but it looked about a gram, he had maybe a thousand.
He couldn't harvest them properly though cos it would of looked well shady slicing all the pods outside, so he had to take them all inside and only got one harvest off each pod .
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Re: Poppy q's [Re: Mike_yy]
#5606015 - 05/08/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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how do you get a harvest off a pod, once you cut it from the stem from the plant and bring it indoors???
Also, the second or third lancing produce way less active chemicals, thus the first cutting always has more goodies.
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Mike_yy


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Do it quickly. He had to up root them all, pile them up then drag them inside. Spread them all out so the pods were even then go through them all with a blade.
Leave the latex to dry abit then scrap it off.
If you pull them up you can only get one collection off each pod.
Honestly would look well dodgy doing it outside ! Where he lives anyway.
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Mike_yy


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Re: Poppy q's [Re: Mike_yy]
#5606289 - 05/08/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pics 




Its hard to tell depth on those, but they were really packed together.
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Ego Death
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Re: Poppy q's [Re: Mike_yy]
#5607882 - 05/09/06 09:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey nice grow man! 
Did swim find his product to be a potent and pleasant smoke? 
Did he sow those seeds or just throw them about?
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Ego Death
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Re: Poppy q's [Re: Mike_yy]
#5607884 - 05/09/06 09:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are hens and chicks any good?
What variety is shown in the pic?
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Ego Death
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Re: Poppy q's [Re: Mike_yy]
#5607891 - 05/09/06 09:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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From reading the tek - I gather opium is water soluable.
Meaning the pods could be simmered (boiled?) and strained to leave a good product?
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You can use them even after the flower?
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Re: Poppy q's [Re: i8an8th]
#5608020 - 05/09/06 09:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh hey, that's really cool to find Shulgin on Mysapce. I guess he would make a really neat friend to converse with.... I don't do research chems, just what nature gave us....but he's definitely the Dude.
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Re: Poppy q's [Re: i8an8th]
#5608059 - 05/09/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
You can use them even after the flower?
O_O
Somebody reeeeeeally has to read From Poppyseed to Opium
What you refer to is the flower bud. The POD forms from the flower after the colorful petals fall off. If you use the flowerbud you will harvest no opium to speak of and prevent pods from forming. Read that thread, all of it. That thread is the Internet's best information source on psychoactive poppies.
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Mike_yy


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The smoke was good, took on a completely different level after afew drinks.
He was smoking the raw stuff at first, smells amazing !
Then he put what he had left in a little vile with some water, shook it and it all separated. About half of it was a dark brown liquid, the other half was a light brown latex.
You could play around with the latex like it was blu tack, same consistency.
The remaining liquid was evaporated to make something that was a much better smoke.
Their all papaver somniferum, just afew different varietys he had collected within that group.
He just chucked them down, they were a garden feature at first. He never realised they would be such agressive growers !
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Re: Poppy q's [Re: eve69]
#5609139 - 05/09/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
eve69 said: Oh hey, that's really cool to find Shulgin on Mysapce. I guess he would make a really neat friend to converse with.... I don't do research chems, just what nature gave us....but he's definitely the Dude.
I just sent him a thank you letter. I'm excited to see if he writes back!
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ive always ben curious. if you produce opium, can you use it as joint papper? or is it like resin, all sticky and messy?
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Mike_yy


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This is a load of the raw stuff. Found the pic on the net.

Hope that answers that for you. Not very good as joint papers
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