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ShroominFL
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ever tripped in an isolation tank?
#5603018 - 05/07/06 10:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm just wondering if anyone has had a psychedelic experience in an isolation tank of any kind. If you have please describe what it was like briefly. Thank you
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Slooch
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: ShroominFL]
#5603056 - 05/07/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have been wanting to build one of these for a while now, It would be easy to make.
But one would not need any Psychedelic substance of any kind to have a experience in one of these. They say your mind does the tripping due to the lack of the 5 senses.
So soon I will have an experience in one of these, I might just try it while tripping on a mild dose. That would be interesting!
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: Slooch]
#5603899 - 05/08/06 03:00 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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In the absence of input from outside the brain signals will short cicuit onto themselves and your brain will become aware of itself! That's kind of spooky!
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: shneck]
#5604159 - 05/08/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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wouldnt building one of these be pretty costly?
doesnt it have to hold water in order to be a true isolation tank?
-------------------- "When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert "Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye." "Experience the liquid realm..." "The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: agoutihead]
#5604225 - 05/08/06 08:33 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Constant 36.6C temp salty water + soundproof + lightproof. Can be built, but yeah, needs some labour. Gonna go find some books by Lilly, he's been da Tankman.
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: shneck]
#5604285 - 05/08/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It might also be interesting to wire some speakers to the inside of the tank so that you can be immersed in liquid and music in total darkness (although its a given that the music would detract from the "isolation" aspect to a certain extent).
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: dreamland]
#5604308 - 05/08/06 09:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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"In our experiments, the subject is suspended with the body and all but the top of the head immersed in a tank containing slowly flowing water at 34.5 degrees C. (94.5 degrees F.), wears a blacked-out mask (enclosing the whole head) for breathing and wears nothing else. The water temperature is such that the subject feels neither hot nor cold. The experience is such that one tactuaHy feels the suprorts and the mask, but not much else; a large fraction of the usual pressures on the body caused by gravity are lacking. The sound level is low, one hears only one's own breathing and some faint water sounds from the piping; the water-air interface does not transmit airborne sounds very efficiently. It is one of the most even and monotonous environments I have experienced. After the initial training period, no observer is present. Immediately after exposure, the subject writes personal notes on his experience.
In these experiments, the subject always has a full nights rest before entering the tank. Instructions are to inhibit all movement as far as possible. An initial set of training exposures overcomes the fears of the situation itself.
In the tank, the following stages have been experienced:
(1) For about the first three-quarters of an hour, the day's residues are predominant. One is aware of the surroundings, recent problems, etc.
(2) Gradually, one begins to relax and more or less enjoy the experience. The feeling of being isolated in space and having nothing to do is restful and relaxing at this stage.
(3) But slowly, during the next hour, a tension develops which can be called a "stimulus-action" hunger; hidden methods of self-stimulation develop: twitching muscles, slows wimming movements (which cause sensations as the water flows by the skin), stroking one finger with another, etc. If one can inhibit such maneuvers long enough, intense satisfaction is derived from later self-stimulations.
(4) If inhibition can win out, the tension may ultimately develop to the point of forcing the subject to leave the tank.
(5) Meanwhile, the attention is drawn powerfully to any residual stimulus: the mask, the suspension, each come in for their share of concentration. Such residual stimuli become the whole content of consciousness to an almost unbearable degree.
(6) If this stage is passed without leaving the tank, one notices that one's thoughts have shifted from a directed type of thinking about problems to reveries and fantasies of a highly personal and emotionally charged nature. These are too personal to relate publicly, and probably vary greatly from subject to subject. The individual reactions to such fantasy material also probably varies considerably, from complete suppression to relaxing and enjoying them.
(7) If the tension and the fantasies are withstood, one may experience the furthest stage which we have yet explored: projection of visual imagery. I have seen this once, after a two-and-one-half hour period. The black curtain in front of the eyes (such as one "sees" in a dark room with eyes closed) gradually opens out into a three-dimensional dark, empty space in front of the body. This phenomenon captures one's interest immediately, and one waits to find out what comes next. Gradually forms of the type sometimes seen in hypnogogic states appear. In this case they were small, strangely shared objects with selfluminous borders. A tunnel whose inside "space" seemed to be emitting a blue light then appeared straight ahead. About this time this experiment was terminated by a leakage of water into the mask through a faulty connector to the inspiratory tube
In our experiments, we notice that after immersion the day apparently is started over, i.e. the subject feels as if he has just arisen from bed afresh, this effect persists, and the subject finds he is out of step with the clock for the rest of that day. He also has to readjust to social intercourse in subtle ways. The night of the day of the exposure he finds that his bed exerts great pressure against his body. No bed is as comfortable as floating in water."
The rest can be found here: http://www.johnclilly.com/
Cool stuff. I wonder whether one trips if buried alive - almost the same, just no water.
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: shneck]
#5604319 - 05/08/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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http://www.answers.com/topic/isolation-tank?hl=deprivation&hl=tanks
These things are neat!
BTW; I can hardly sleep without my water bed.. I imagine what a tank like this could do! Damn! 
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nea
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: Gomp]
#5604380 - 05/08/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
intense satisfaction is derived from later self-stimulations.
I bet.
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: nea]
#5604453 - 05/08/06 10:21 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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a psychedelic is taken before entering the isolation tank correct?
or is this a type of meditation deal?
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: agoutihead]
#5604553 - 05/08/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used one of those once, when I was probably 14 or so. It was pretty cool, but I got really horny a few minutes into it. I think I fell asleep at some point too. I think I was too young to truly appreciate it.
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: ShroominFL]
#5604557 - 05/08/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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anyone ever see the move "altered states"? Its a bit old(80's?), but its about the altered states induced by said isolation tank.
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coctyle
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: agoutihead]
#6308411 - 11/28/06 05:35 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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agoutihead said: a psychedelic is taken before entering the isolation tank correct?
or is this a type of meditation deal?
No, normally a psychedelic would not be taken and, yes, it is sort of a type of meditation deal.
I have thought about this a lot myself. When I first heard of the concept years ago, I thought it sounded awesome, but now I really question whether I would be able to handle it. I tend to get antsy; hell I am bouncing my foot up and down right now as I type this. When I try to go to sleep, I often get more anxious due to the lack of stimulation and will become quite awake within a few minutes, which sucks for obvious reasons.
On the other hand, I enjoy sensory deprevation to a certain extent. I sometimes have to wear earplugs at work, and I find I am more relaxed with earplugs in, and I really enjoy the feeling of floating. So, I think I would be able to handleit for a while, but I am not sure how I would do when I got to the stage where movement and self-stimulation become difficult to resist.
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: foxyhotme]
#6308412 - 11/28/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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foxyhotme said: anyone ever see the move "altered states"? Its a bit old(80's?), but its about the altered states induced by said isolation tank.
I loved this movie as a kid, although I am sure I didn't really get it. Despite that, the movie may very well be part of the reason that I am so fascinated by drugs and altered states of consciousness now.
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: coctyle]
#6308459 - 11/28/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've seen it.
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Re: ever tripped in an isolation tank? [Re: Newbie]
#6308488 - 11/28/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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No but Ive always wanted to. I wonder how hard it would be to build your own isolation tank. I hear it works best when its full of water because when you submerge yourself you also isolate yourself from the feeling of gravity.
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