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MustardMan
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When I Sterilize Jars...
#5602950 - 05/07/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey, I don't have a pressure cooker, so I was planning on just using a large pot, and putting a rag or two on the bottom (about 1in. thick?) so the jars dont crack. Then I was going to let them simmer for about an hour - hour/half. Then turn it off, and with gloves remove the (HOT) jars and dump the water, then take the jars and let them cool in a shoebox overnight.
Any problems with this? Thanks.
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Edgekrusher
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: MustardMan]
#5603032 - 05/07/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why simmer? I'd go for a nice boil with the lid on.
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FungusMan
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: Edgekrusher]
#5603128 - 05/07/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If its WBS, then I can give you my fractiona sterilization tek.
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skeletor
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: Edgekrusher]
#5603129 - 05/07/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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exactly essentually you want to steam those jars.
i assume you are doing PF cakes right.
can't do grains like this need a pc for em.
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FungusMan
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: skeletor]
#5603154 - 05/07/06 11:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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skeletor said: can't do grains like this need a pc for em.
Now skeletor, this I WILL debate with you about,lol. Fractional sterilization is not only possible, but has been proven many times. I did it for months before I got my PC.Proof you ask? Heres some pics of jars that I used this tek on...

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skeletor
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: FungusMan]
#5603172 - 05/07/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh i did it once myself actually it worked fine however al lit did was get be stoked on grains. i went out and bought a PC after my first sucess adn i'll never do it again! haha
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FungusMan
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: skeletor]
#5603178 - 05/07/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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then why did you say it CANT be done?
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PORkSOdA
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: FungusMan]
#5603210 - 05/07/06 11:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Before I got my PC I used just steam sterilization for grain jars... it worked fine. I have read that it only works when you are close to sea level (which I am...). I don't know what the deal is, but just steam sterilization on grain jars worked fine for me.
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MustardMan
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: PORkSOdA]
#5604031 - 05/08/06 04:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok sorry im using the PF Tek, organic brown rice flour and Verm. substrate.
I can't use this method? The PF Tek guide is wrong?
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IGnosticAbhorI
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: MustardMan]
#5604039 - 05/08/06 05:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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then why did you say it CANT be done?
It can of course! However, it would vary from person to person, whereas PCING is more so guarantteed. Every bag has a different endospores count, and every different brand as well. Pcing is more of a guaranttee that there's nothing in there that will fuck up your grow.
The same applies to using a glove box versus just spraying some oust in the air and going from there (when doing G2g transfer or agar).
Pcing is just more of a guaranttee 
And you're doing PF tek...So what you want to go about doing is just fine 
I'd personally boil, but simmer will do just fine...Just make it about an hour and 10/20 mintues...Just to be on the safe side 
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IGnosticAbhorI
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: FungusMan]
#5604046 - 05/08/06 05:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
FungusMan said: If its WBS, then I can give you my fractiona sterilization tek.
Blackout has written quite a few...
What's yours? I'd like to check it out if you don't mind, hit me up with a PM or something.
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MustardMan
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thanks man.
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IGnosticAbhorI
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: MustardMan]
#5604052 - 05/08/06 05:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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No prob.
What strain you trying out?
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MustardMan
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Cool thanks man
I may just go buy a PC at walmart for like 25-30 bucks, sounds much more consistent.
Also, If I buy one of the cheapo's will it still work, and will it still have a pressure gage? lol
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Re: When I Sterilize Jars... [Re: MustardMan]
#5604069 - 05/08/06 05:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The cheap Pc's have weights, not pressure guages, and yes, they will work just fine 
If you're patient and can save up for it, i'd recommend getting a Nice pc versus a smaller one for cheaper. It pays off in the end.
If you're only wanting to do like a couple of jars or whatever, then smaller is the way to go def....But if you're down for some hardcore cultivationg , then i'd go with something bigger, it'll def. cut your pcing time down A LOT.
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Babo911
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I work at wal-mart in where the PC are, look for ones that are not pre-set to 10.5 PSI and look for where it says 15 PSI for best result
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