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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: PreparationH]
#5602495 - 05/07/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i m a very active person and i do alot of shit during my everyday life, like play ball and wat not. when the day is over and i finally get high i look back at my day and think man wat a day. i love that feeling. i smoke about everyday, one time tho, and i only use like .2 and its completely satisfying to me. weed used to be a problem for me, where all did was think about weed and smoke it multiple times a day, waist my time and money on it and in the end of everyday, i would get nothing accomplished because i was too busy being blazed and lazy. i hated that and i noticed thats y i was cut from my soph b ball team, adn it just didnt become much of a big deal to me, like for a change, i wouldnt wake up everyday adn the first thing on my mind was weed i hated that feeling so i changed. i stopped smoking as much as i used to .now i play ball everyday and watnot and at night i get blazed and enjoy it to the fullest, and i get really high of a little amount. if i were you man, just be active during the day u know? be productive and at least get something accomplished and at the end of your day get blazed and u will love it be cause u will look back and think "at least i did this and that and this and that" so i deserve this high. its a great feeling
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Very good advice, that is very detailed as well.
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: Skunk420]
#5602530 - 05/07/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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yea this is true what he sais but i've tried it, i smoked at night when all my friends drank and they were all giggling having a ball while all i want to do is sleep.
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: PreparationH]
#5602558 - 05/07/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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smoke it with shrooms only then, I think it makes the mushroom trip a lot less uncomfortable. But that is just my opinion. It wont make you tired either, like weed alone... it will make the trip more smoother too..
Edited by skunk78395 (05/07/06 08:50 PM)
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: Skunk420]
#5602577 - 05/07/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i doubt it'll make it less comfortable, my 2 trips went really smooth except when i heard this very weird sound (that wasn't really there) it sounded like when someone put a drumstick on a drum symbol and slides it accross it really fast, that scared the shit out of me when i was shrooming. I've had what i would think to be close to a panic attack when i was high, but never got like that when i was tripping.
Edited by PreparationH (05/07/06 08:53 PM)
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: PreparationH]
#5602597 - 05/07/06 08:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: i doubt it'll make it less comfortable, my 2 trips went really smooth except when i heard this very weird sound (that wasn't really there) it sounded like when someone put a drumstick on a drum symbol and slides it accross it really fast, that scared the shit out of me when i was shrooming.
I heard that noise while tripping, right before I thought I was going to die. It is goddamn scary!
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i was lieing in bed when it happened it made me do a jump kick in my bed, heart racing and i was like woah, that shit was CREEEZZZZYYYYY!
Edited by PreparationH (05/07/06 08:59 PM)
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: PreparationH]
#5602812 - 05/07/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes it does, most likely it will be more comfortable. I have done shrooms with weed and without, I have actually only done shrooms maybe 6 to 8 times. well a good dose of shrooms that is. I have done LSD many times, and smoking pot right at the peak of an acid trip makes you trip even harder but it is more comfortable. But those strange sounds you are hearing are just auditory hallucinations, everyone gets them with psychedelics, and other drugs too!
Edited by skunk78395 (05/07/06 09:34 PM)
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: PreparationH]
#5603346 - 05/07/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: quit smoking weed yesterday
I'm not gonna talk shit about someone not smoking weed because it's essentially as bad as drug warriors who bad mouth drug users, but please don't be that guy that used to be a pothead and went straight edge and now lectures people everytime they smoke. (I think everyone knows someone like that if they've been using any kind of drugs for long enough)
That is all...carry on.
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5603351 - 05/07/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: I'm not dissing smokers though. Weed just isn't for me anymore.
Good attitude. You don't smoke anymore and I still do. We're both happy.
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: PreparationH]
#5603355 - 05/07/06 11:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, best of luck quitting.
I quit years ago and haven't even had the slightest desire to go back.
It's just no fun for me anymore - it used to be great.
I guess I'll be grateful for the good times it brought me.
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: monamine]
#5605146 - 05/08/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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monamine said:
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PreparationH said: quit smoking weed yesterday
I'm not gonna talk shit about someone not smoking weed because it's essentially as bad as drug warriors who bad mouth drug users, but please don't be that guy that used to be a pothead and went straight edge and now lectures people everytime they smoke. (I think everyone knows someone like that if they've been using any kind of drugs for long enough)
That is all...carry on.
Did you actually read what i typed or just the first 5 words? who the hell am i dissing or said im straight edge? i drink and still mushroom every once and a while. I just posted it up on the shroomery to see if anyone's had the same feelings of weed just not being the drug for them anymore.
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5605348 - 05/08/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: The whole weed lifestyle is unappealing to me as well. I look back on all of the money and time I wasted on weed; if only I could have it back. How many times did I spend my last cent on a bag? How many times did I drive around for hours looking for a bag only to get a skimpy and overpriced cut of schwag weed that somebody pinched out of? How many hours did I spend just sitting on my couch watching TV and playing video games while being stoned out of my mind?
I'm not dissing smokers though. Weed just isn't for me anymore.
I associated weed smoking with one's "phenotype," so I believe I smoke so much for "phenotypical" reasons.
It deals with my genetic composition and environment, in my community, weed smoking is very widespread and abundant...
Smoking weed is an entirely different experience in these environs, I don't have to worry about getting a skimp sack, or any of those undesirable factors of being a weed smoker.
Most people I know grow, including my GOOD GOOD FRIEND OF A FRIEND'S FRIEND, hint hint, ... I dunno I smoke a lot of weed, I'm sorry to hear it causes you such horrible stints of anxiety, at least the portion of your lungs which is affected by marijuana smoke will be able to relax...
It gets lame, I must admit, sitting around doing nothing stoned...
However, when there is nothing to do, a very common occurence, sitting around doing nothing whilst stoned is more enjoyable than doing nothing whilst sober.
I usually find that the addition of selective marijuana strains (some are better than others for specific conditions) typically make an activity more enjoyable.
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: Herbus]
#5605375 - 05/08/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Furthermore, I've said this hundreds of times, you might just not be smoking the same quality of marijuana others are smoking...
... That said, smoking "hella bomb" doesn't make you cool(er), it usually deals with the geographical situation of weed suppliers in your area...
Where I come from, Northern California, there's obviously lots of good weed, and I don't typically run into these 'adverse' reactions which are often described here; although I used to, and I believe it was directly correlated to the quality of the weed.
It's simply a matter of neurophysiological changes, and the compounds responsible for those changes: THC causes quite an enjoyable and often lucid high. However, CBD, a predecessor, alters the activity of THC, making the high lean to more lethargic, somatic (bodily sensations), and overall 'stupid and incapable' feelings while high... Not to mention all the other cannabinoids that somehow affect the high. There's still a lot we do not know, but as we learn more, breeders are able to produce strains which better accomodate people and their reasons for smoking.
In some regions, these said genetics are more available, in others they are limited to an esoteric group.
Seems like a decent amount of people who begin to dislike weed are in regions in which the only high quality weed being produced is usually indoors and not very abundant, and therefor quite expensive.
I don't know I'm just glad to be in Northern California.
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: Herbus]
#5605431 - 05/08/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ive been smoking weed for about 2 1/2 years now, the more i do it the less enjoyable it becomes.I dont know why this is, maybe it is related to what Herbus was saying, most of the time the weed i get in my area(Upstate NY) is shit weed, ocassionally we get some decent hydro or some good homegrown.
I keep thinking that i want to quit, ive said this to myself many times. I never seem to be able to, i have however cut down to smoking only a few times a week, and also cut down the amount i smoke when i do toke. In my view smoking all the time is a waste of time and money, moderation is key, as is with most things.
Im thinking maybe i destroyed mary jane's magic a few times when i was REALLY stoned, once i threw up and had stomach pains, maybe that can be attributed to the humongous bong I used. Another time I got really stoned and thought i was going crazy, i felt my mind flipping...I never get that stoned anymore. Sometimes I get an icky and tired feeling while stoned, no idea why.
On a side note, smoking during a shroom trip does seem to help with the anxiety of coming up, and overall makes the trip stronger and more enjoyable.
Edited by EternalEden (05/08/06 03:44 PM)
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THE KRAT BARON
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: Herbus]
#5605479 - 05/08/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Herbus said: Seems like a decent amount of people who begin to dislike weed are in regions in which the only high quality weed being produced is usually indoors and not very abundant, and therefor quite expensive.
Do you have any proof to support such a wild claim?
In theory cannabis with higher levels of THC is going to make somebody prone to anxiety experience adverse effects much worse.. It's all about your currect state of mind IMHO, personal experience, and experiences of others around me.
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well its good to know I'm not alone,i thought i was the only person that wasn't fixated by cannabis. Don't get me wrong I think its a wonderful herb, but for certain people. I use to smoke it like 24/7, thats all i ever wanted to do was get high. After awhile though it just made me feel very strange, I was alot more paranoid, i couldn't socialize anymore, actually kind of depressed me and the biggest thing was that I was thinking to much about everything and that never does anyone any good. Now the only time i like to smoke is by myself to get my creative juices flowing 
So to anyone that wants to quit good luck!
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mattzdope said:
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Herbus said: Seems like a decent amount of people who begin to dislike weed are in regions in which the only high quality weed being produced is usually indoors and not very abundant, and therefor quite expensive.
Do you have any proof to support such a wild claim?
In theory cannabis with higher levels of THC is going to make somebody prone to anxiety experience adverse effects much worse.. It's all about your currect state of mind IMHO, personal experience, and experiences of others around me.
Well considering the legal status of marijuana, and subsequent limitations imposed on researchers, thus creating a lack of research into the subject; I think it might be kinda hard to gather up empirical evidence supporting my claim, authored by credible researchers...
Luckily for me, I said a decent amount of people, so are you going to effectively argue against my theory that a decent amount of people who dislike weed live in regions without an abundance of high-grade cannabis? No, you're not... well, I suppose you could try... but we never laid down the criteria to which "decent" has to meet.
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In theory cannabis with higher levels of THC is going to make somebody prone to anxiety experience adverse effects much worse.. It's all about your currect state of mind IMHO, personal experience, and experiences of others around me.
Can YOU find some documentation supporting your claims?
Of course "experience" has something to do with it, that's what life is, essentially, one prolonged experience. "Experience" affects everything...
THC more prone to anxiety, hmm? I don't know about that one, bud. I think it has more to do with the entire chemical composition, specifically that which pertains to cannibinoids.
Most cannibinoids are not active, per se, but effect the 'high' of THC, and/or other present psychoactive compounds.
Anxiety is a tricky thing, and for the most part, I'd have to agree with you...
Anxiety has a lot to do with the situation in which weed is smoked, and I believe it has a lot to do with boredom (repetition of stimuli) and your perceived inability to do anything about it.
That said, I've smoked weed which I deem "anxiety weed" and I don't attribute it to high levels of THC.
It might be a little premature, with a racey high, and although you could point to high levels of THC in this stage, I think it deals more with the other cannibinoids present and their influence on the THC, and not the THC itself.
High-quality sativas, high in THC and low in other cannibinoids, specifically CBD, are anything but anxiety weed.
In the end, all this shit is anecdotal, so this is helpful to compare and contrast information as we are doing now.
However, I'm pretty damn sure I'm right/you're wrong. lololololol
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: Herbus]
#5605937 - 05/08/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If person B. smokes some low grade brick and experiences anxiety what the fuck do you think some top shelf (whether it's indica or sativa. doesn't matter) is going to do to him? Shwag is not going to get you as high as good quality bud so how do you figure it is going to effect you more negatively than good quality bud? That makes no sense at all. As with many other chemicals it all depends on your mind state.
I smoked good quality, bad quality, and everything in between for 6 years almost daily unless there was an unusual dry spout. Loved every minute of it. At that point in time I laughed at people who said that bud made them paranoid. (yes I literally laughed at them.) My life got fucked up and I became extremely depressed + anxious while completely sober. When I'd smoke my anxiety was sent into overdrive leaving me feeling like shit. So I quit smoking. Now it's a year later and I am able to cope with the anxiety. I recently picked up a bit of bud and found that I am able to smoke again with no ill effects due to the fact that my mind is clear (for the most part) once again.
That is only one example..
I can't technically prove this but as you so kindly pointed out neither can you... but with a little common sense it's not hard to understand. Again, chemicals effect people differently depending on their brain chemistry and mind state. It has nothing to do with the quality of the bud imho.
edit: Sorry if I came off like a dick in my posts. I honestly didn't mean to. I'm just very adamant on this subject due to my own personal experience with cannabis. When my mind was in a good place none of the variables you mentioned mattered. (quality, indica, sativa, mature, premature) The only thing that varied due to those variables was how high I got and whether it felt more like a couch-lock stone or a get the fuck up and do something stone. Never experienced any form of anxiety/paranoia when I was in a good state of mind, it actually helped to deal with my natural shyness.
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Edited by mattzdope (05/08/06 06:10 PM)
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Re: quit smoking weed yesterday [Re: PreparationH]
#5605997 - 05/08/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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