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New2Shroom
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First Time Cubensis User - Concerns Raised
#5599114 - 05/06/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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My interest in shrooms was recently sparked by stumbling upon a very detailed mushroom growing video. I have never done a drug of this caliber before ... MJ being my "drug" of choice, I have never done anything further. I dont even drink alcohol... partially because of my extremely firm anti man-made drug stance (the other part being its hard on my stomach).
I recently spoke to an acquantance online who seemed content to put a "scare" into me prior to me giving shrooms a try. Apparently he was addicted to acid and ectasy for a time and it whacked out his brain to some extent. He claims that shrooms can easily have the same effect (ie just as bad as acid and worse than ectasy, mentally speaking). When he told me that it concerned me but based on what I have read and heard, I'm not sure its true. He also said that after doing acid or shrooms more than 7 times starts to whack you out, pretty much making you insane to one extent or another. Of course when I asked him if he had heard of such stories from individuals who had used shrooms soley he said he had not heard of any, as shrooms are difficult to obtain.
These warnings he gave me were mean to be taken in the context of doing shrooms responsibly, IE not often. I'm figuring 4-6 times a year is plenty.
I'm wondering if there is any truth to what I was told. My instincts tell me no ... but I thought I would get your input.
On a side note - This forum is awesome, thanks for all the great information you all share unconditionally.
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Barrett420
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Re: First Time Cubensis User - Concerns Raised [Re: New2Shroom]
#5599227 - 05/06/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shrooms don't harm you at all. Physically you are not harmed but if you have underlying metal problems or have a weak mind then it might make your metal problems worse. What the guy said are just myths. Acid shrooms and X arn't physically addictive so that guy wasn't addicted he just didn't want stop doing them. Shrooms are awsome and if you are going to try them and are worried just start out with like 2 grams or so then work your way up.
Edited by Barrett420 (05/06/06 10:29 PM)
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hoopershroomer
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Re: First Time Cubensis User - Concerns Raised [Re: New2Shroom]
#5599257 - 05/06/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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um, your friend is full of shit. first of all, if lsd and X whacked out his brain its because hes stupid enough to not be able handle his drug use. i dont do X or ne other powder but i do know shrooms are almost harmfull if you do them ever now and then since fall, i've done shrooms about 15 times and im a perfectly fine person. i have a 3.5 gpa, i played on my Varsity b ball team and i play ball every day, im fine overall. your friend, obviously, cant handle his use of drugs and should not be using them in the first place. i do know that prety much all hallucinagenics are non physically addictive, and that shows that your friend isnt strong minded enough to deal with those drugs since they are only psych-addictive. really man, shrooms are pretty much harmless, it IS the most unique and astounding high that you can and ever will have and using shrooms less than 15 times a year will not fuck with you in the slightest way. they are wonderfull and when you take them, you will understand the true magic of a mushrooms and you will learn to have the utmost respect for them, if you dont then thats when things go bad. try them love them and respect them, you should be just fine
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hIgHdRoLoVeR
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Re: First Time Cubensis User - Concerns Raised [Re: New2Shroom]
#5599400 - 05/06/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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shrooms will not mess your mind up...if your mind gets messed up from shrooms, LSD or x then your mind was already fucked up...they just brought it to your attention... they are also not addictive...at least not physically...mental addiction comes from having a addictive personality...people with this kind of personality can get addicted to even Tylenol since they think they "NEED" anything... i cant really count how many times i did shrooms before i gave it a break for almost 4 years...and I'm just now feeling like taking them again...but i can guess that Ive taken them at least 50 times spread over 3 years of experimentation... as far as shrooms making you stupid or anything..thats bullshit...recently i took a IQ test and received a score of 128..2 points below being in the top 2.3% of test takers, basically, I'm not a dummy...and even after years of taking shrooms in order to enlighten myself all i can say is expect to discover what you already know but dont realize...take away from it what you will and learn from what you teach yourself...cause thats all it really is...your opening doors that you have fogotten were there and taking a trip into the furthest reaches of your own mind, a place so few people are ever blessed enough to visit
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Edited by hIgHdRoLoVeR (05/06/06 11:17 PM)
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New2Shroom
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Re: First Time Cubensis User - Concerns Raised [Re: hIgHdRoLoVeR]
#5599464 - 05/06/06 11:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you all for your input, this eases my mind greatly. I would like to go into this with a positive mind-set and the advice from those of you experienced in the matter really helps. Spores are on their way... I eagerly await my first shroomin' experience.
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Re: First Time Cubensis User - Concerns Raised [Re: New2Shroom]
#5599494 - 05/06/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
New2Shroom said: Thank you all for your input, this eases my mind greatly. I would like to go into this with a positive mind-set and the advice from those of you experienced in the matter really helps. Spores are on their way... I eagerly await my first shroomin' experience.
dont jump in hastily is the best advice i can give you...be well prepared for your journey...by this i mean make sure you have the right mindset and setting...be totally at ease and happy...i suggest not tripping after a bad day at work or when emotions are high...other that that..enjoy
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Re: First Time Cubensis User - Concerns Raised [Re: New2Shroom]
#5600280 - 05/07/06 07:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Let me be perfectly honest with you: to some extent your friend is right, but it needs nuance, and so much of it that he hardly would recognise it if you fed it back to him.
Mushroom experiences alter your personality and Self.
This needs to be said, because it is true. If you drink a water glass of vodka it will mess with your perceptions as much as 1/8 ounce of mushrooms. But psychedelics are NOT about perceptual changes, in fact perceptual changes ("hallucinations") are a SIDE EFFECT to the effects that mushrooms have on your mind.
It isnt as much that you "see stuff" but on a far more profound level you will *feel* stuff and *think* stuff, in short you will have an EXPERIENCE, not a light show.
And experiences, particularly intense ones, change a man.
The good news is that these alterations for the most part are beneficial. You heard me right: psychedelics can do you good, a good which may last a lifetime, even if you use them only once.
On the other hand, psychedelics are not good for some people: either they cannot handle them with their mind or even with their brain itself. To some extent you can alter the impact of psychedelics on your mind, but if your hardware can't take it, you should not take it.
Taking a psychedelic is taking a risk, just like skydiving is. The reward however can be direct experience, and with it a life change or a mushroom companion which guides the path of your life.
The choice is yours.
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kaniz
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Re: First Time Cubensis User - Concerns Raised [Re: Asante]
#5600407 - 05/07/06 08:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've done LSD over 10 times I've done mushrooms more times then I can recall I've popped more X pills then I care to recall I smoke weed regularly I've done meth about a dozen times I've swigged back bottles worth of GHB I've snorted countless bumps of ketamine
and..
a: I'm still doing well in school, in fact - last semester is the highest GPA I've ever gotten while at school.
b: I'm not a cracked-out sketch case. I'm still close with my family, friends, boyfriend
c: I'm not a burnout with crazy conspiracy theories, I'm not paranoid, and I'm not having psychotic breaks
Now, there has been some changes in me as a result of my drug use, mostly good, but maybe one or two bad things. Ie: I find I have a slightly harder time focusing/short term memory, but that goes away once I stopped taking MDMA. I used to take it almost every weekend (WAAAY too often), and now I take it maybe once every other month, and that problem goes away after a break of it.
However, there has also been a number of positive changes, I'd say mostly in relation to psychedelic use, but also from MDMA. Such as
- Increased appreciation of nature, art and music - Better sense of self-awareness - I now seem to feel a wider range of emotions then I used to. For a long time, I pretty much was mid-ground. Rarely felt really 'high' emotions of joy/happiness, but likewise, I rarely felt down or depressed. Just sorta 'meh' all the time. Now, I seem to experience a far wider range of emotion in my daily life. Mind you, this also comes with bad emotions of sadness/depression at times, but is also counter-balanced by feeling amazing most days. All in all, I like this change - I'd rather experience the full range of emotions than just the middle ground - Topics such as life after death, higher powers (god? Don’t know), faith, spirituality seem to come into my thoughts far more, I'd say my faith/spirituality has grown quite a bit, and this is a good thing - I feel more grounded then I used to. - It's helped me cope with anxiety, and find ways of dealing with it in which I don’t need to rely on medication
I have also had trips where I've really sat down and analyzed my life, the problems in it, and ways of resolving them. The solutions that you come up with may not always be nice ones. But useful.
For example, one year - I was letting a lot of people use me, people I thought were friends. They would always call on me for help, but would never be there for me when I needed them, or even just wanted to hang out. One day, was tripping on mushrooms, started to analyze the situation, and started to see who my real friends were, who the users were, and who I was putting my energy into. At the end of the trip, I sort of re-prioritized who my friends were, who I'd give energy to, etc. In the end, there was 3 or 4 people I simply 'cut out' of my life, they were people who were just using/abusing me and bringing me down. In the end, the changes I made were for the better, but still - it was a hard thing to do at the same time.
Now, I didn’t list off my past drug use as a 'bragging' thing. There was a year or two where I was simply stupid with drugs. But more of a 'well, I've done all sorts of drugs, and I'm still OK, and have seen a number of positive changes in me over the last few years'.
Edited by kaniz (05/07/06 08:45 AM)
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Re: First Time Cubensis User - Concerns Raised [Re: kaniz]
#5600650 - 05/07/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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after doing mushrooms for the first time, i lost all my friends, started getting D's and F's in school (previously an A student), ended up in lots of trouble, went to jail a few times, etc.
the problem with that statement (and the others in this thread) is that just because A happens after B does not mean that they had anything to do with each other. This is what Carl Sagan's "baloney detection kit" defines as "confusion of correlation and causation."
I'd like to point out that my above statement is 100% true, but the way it was worded makes it sound like the mushrooms caused all of this, when in fact they had nothing to do with any of the events that took place afterwords.
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