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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5600484 - 05/07/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I am already dead, the only questions are when and how.
Why should I be afraid of something that is inevitable?

My "end of the line" will be when I will prefer death to life. Hopefully I will have a low pain and dignified choice or get lucky and die in my sleep. My main concern with death is that I don't want to suffer a painful terminal illness like my sister did.

As for self loathing, fear, anger, jealousy, self deception, and all the other ego driven emotions, sure I feel them at times. End of the line? No way. The key there is to at least work on why you are feeling things and move towards change. You don't have to go to prison to effect change in your life. If you need hardship, go live on the street or go work at the soup kitchen and live among the homeless.

Better yet, if you really want a prison type experience to jump start you on that path to success without actually committing a felony and all the expense and hassle of that, commit yourself to a mental hospital. A few weeks in there would be a good "wake up call".


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5600499 - 05/07/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Who said anyone wants a prison experience. Sometimes people end up there against their wishes. :wink:


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Icelander]
    #5600512 - 05/07/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I didn't say you should want a prison experience, but I do think you need one.  :wink:


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5600528 - 05/07/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Better yet, if you really want a prison type experience

I appreciate you wanting me in prison friend :thumbdown: :rolleyes:


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5600530 - 05/07/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"
Below him was the multitudinous river, and, where the rock had parted it around him, big-grained vapor rose. The mini-molecules of water left in the wake of his line made momentary loops of gossamer, disappearing so rapidly in the rising big-grained vapor that they had to be retained in memory to be visualized as loops. The spray emanating from him was finer-grained still and enclosed him in a halo of himself. The halo of himself was always there and always disappearing, as if he were candlelight flickering about three inches from himself. The images of himself and his line kept disappearing into the rising vapors of the river, which continually circles to the tops of the cliffs where, after becoming a wreath in the wind, they became rays of the sun. "

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"On the Big Blackfoot River above the mouth of Belmont Creek the banks are fringed by large Ponderosa pines. In the slanting sun of late afternoon the shadows of great branches reached from across the river, and the trees took the river in their arms. The shadows continued up the bank, until they included us."
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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5600539 - 05/07/06 09:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
Quote:

BlueCoyote said:
Prison basically enforces the prisoner's negative attitude towards a society what has risen it up. Simple psychology.




That simple, eh? That must be why education for an aspiring criminal psychologist spans five to seven years, and requires a doctorate and state licensing.  :lol:



Yes, as hopefully every psychologist can grasp the nature of psychology, it takes that long for a criminal psychologist, to make his 'educators' re-order him his basic learnings in comfort of Justicia and society. The licenses approve his conformity, not his psychological knowledge (almost every license does that).
After that training, he can make the prisoner see prison as a good place, himself formerly bad and the prison aiding him to get to the good standards of society. Simply brainwashing. I think there is still discussion about the goods and bads of prison in psychology, but that is not for a criminals' psychologist :wink:
Eh ! :lol:


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5600592 - 05/07/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Do you even know what a criminal psychologist is? :wtf:

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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5600613 - 05/07/06 10:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Do you even know what a criminal psychologist is? :wtf:

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Sure, as there is the same word in german and 90% of them work for court or police. Also, I took 8 semesters of psychology, myself.
What makes you think I didn't know ?

Ah, you missed that many of them work in rehabilitation, too...

I refered to psychology for those allready imprisoned.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5600696 - 05/07/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

if god is so close to prison, explain the alarming rate of anal sex.

i was under the impression he didn't like that kinda stuff.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: kotik]
    #5600774 - 05/07/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think you related your question to Dr.J ?
For me prison has not much to do with god, except that  some true godsmen sit there.
The negative effects of prison (deprivation) are more responsible for that crazy stuff going in there, than the prisoners.

But anal-sex outside of prison, I must say, that if those find joy with it, it is all right. But you can enjoy anal-sex with females too, if you wish (there are dildos for them) :grin: But Ican't say if they will enjoy that as like a man would, but he also could 'use' a female for that...


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5600785 - 05/07/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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What makes you think I didn't know ?




What makes you think that I thought you didn't know?

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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5600822 - 05/07/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
Quote:

BlueCoyote said:
What makes you think I didn't know ?




What makes you think that I thought you didn't know?

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this question: Do you even know what a criminal psychologist is? plus emoticon :wtf:

But what has your statement about criminal psychologists to do with the general psychological view of imprisonment ?
(Besides their use in rehab or in care/supervision/support of prisoners)

As I see it (I haven't said yet): General psychology states to avoid or counter harm, by learning. If you are presented to constant harm by imprisonment induced by 'society', you primarily learn to avoid and counter (prisons of course too, making you more wicked, but more important) society and their concepts.
The cause and effect is too far away, to be imprinted 'naturally'. That's like if you want to educate a dog, then the cause (his misdeeds) and the effect (your harm) may not be too far away, else he won't get it.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5600836 - 05/07/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

BlueCoyote said:
this question: Do you even know what a criminal psychologist is? plus emoticon :wtf:




Exactly, I asked you if you knew what a criminal psychologist was.

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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5600845 - 05/07/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

fireworks_god said:
Quote:

BlueCoyote said:
this question: Do you even know what a criminal psychologist is? plus emoticon :wtf:




Exactly, I asked you if you knew what a criminal psychologist was.

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+ even + :wtf:
+ following my statement about them.
I perceive when someone doubts what I said, no worry :lol:

But as you were on a different context than me (see previous post), there did the misunderstanding come from.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Icelander]
    #5601834 - 05/07/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That was a hypothetical question, but apparently it struck a nerve.

My problem is with hyprocrites such as you have proven in this post. First you argue that prison is somehow going to improve one's life, oh it's not so bad, Timothy Leary didn't complain, you had a friend come out intact, etc...

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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5602738 - 05/07/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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If a moderator catches this, you will be going to prison. One cannot reveal what was said in a private message on the forum itself. :nonono:

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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5602828 - 05/07/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I said prison could be a good experience as in, it does not have to be bad although it often is. I never said it is "not so bad". I even said it is hellish. I said Tim Leary (in his words) said it was a good experience.

I don't know whether I would benefit from prison or not but I wouldn't wish it on any but my worst enemy.

So WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM?


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Icelander]
    #5602941 - 05/07/06 10:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This discussion is quite heated! I thought I would mention.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: michael_lifshitz]
    #5604346 - 05/08/06 09:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Indeed, so back on track, what would you (you plural) say the cure for paranoia is?


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: dblaney]
    #5604457 - 05/08/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean that they are not out to get you."

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