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OfflineDoctorJ
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the cure for paranoia
    #5596793 - 05/06/06 02:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

in doing gods work

I have often risked imprisonment

thankfully, god has protected me from imprisonment

but if god were to send me to prison

to prison I would go

I would see this as an opportunity

for all experience is opportunity

thankfully, there is no need for me to go to prison

for prisoners need no ministers

for they are already close to god

because god put himself in prison

so that he might set his people free.

to know what it is like to be deprived of freedom

is to know an important part of god's duties

if you want to take over god's duties

you can have the job!

but I suspect you will soon quit

for god's job is not easy

though he makes it appear so.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5596977 - 05/06/06 05:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"" ...

because god put himself in prison

so that he might set his people free.

... ""



Nice!

and I have to post this;

II Corinthians 6:16: And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them ; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

(again...)


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5597176 - 05/06/06 08:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"to prison i would go
I would see this as an opportunity"


Tru dat.  Just ask Martha Stewart... :tongue:

In prison, your opportunities are to either get punked or fight back, join a gang or get punked, and you can either do hard time or easy time.

The choice is yours.  Oh yeah I forgot if you touched a little kid you get different opportunities like getting shanked or beaten to death. 

Get real, you would shit your pants on the bus to the big house, punk.
The opportunity to strip down and get that shit hosed off your ass would follow shortly.  Close attention to your ass will be followed by a different opportunity for you to be someone's bitch.

"to prison i would go
to prison i would go
hi ho they want me to ho
to prison i would go"


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5597251 - 05/06/06 09:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I do not like your post at all.......creative never the less.

From my experience the way God works is very very different from the perspective you have given this day.

Why would God protect you from prison ? The prison is where God is.

Prisoners need no ministers ? WHAT ??????????


God is not the prison my friend........God is the freedom



I just don't get it at all..............To conflicting and way out of whack with the values of Love. And I have a very hard time seeing the wisdom of the cure for paranoia.


You get graded...........hum...........D:lol:


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #5597255 - 05/06/06 09:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

LOL, D-


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #5597336 - 05/06/06 09:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Fucknuckle said:


You get graded...........hum...........D:lol:




once again you have proven your self a bigot by embracing the white and dismissing the black

god is the source of ALL things

both good and evil

freedom and bondage


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5597472 - 05/06/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

There is nothing holy about prison. Prison is the end of the line. There is nothing worse than being imprisoned against your will. Stop trying to be optimistic about prison life. You're avoiding the imperialistic nature and subsequent flaws of incarceration.

God does not control your life. If everything happened according to fate, what then is the point of living? Believing in fate is to believe that free will does not exist. If free will does not exist, then how can one be held divinely accountable for their actions?


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Kid_Kaoz]
    #5597581 - 05/06/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Prison is not the end of the line. True it's an ugly reality and one I would not choose, but some have found their path in prison.

The end of the line IMO is self loathing and fear.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Icelander]
    #5597899 - 05/06/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"Prison is not the end of the line. True it's an ugly reality and one I would not choose, but some have found their path in prison.

The end of the line IMO is self loathing and fear."

Until you have been incarcerated, you really have no idea.

It's as bad as people who have never been enlightened talking about what it feels like to be enlightened.

News flash, we are all doing time whether in the prison of our own construction, or in a real prison. If you aren't finding your real path outside of a real prison, the odds of you finding in it a real prison are

1. Lower than on the outside
2. Greater than on the outside.

(Answer is 1. Either you agree or please present evidence to the contrary)

Self loathing and fear are choices and if we make them then we get what we deserve whether outside or inside of a prison.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5597918 - 05/06/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

While I have never been in prison. I have friends who have and at least one seemed to come out of it intact. Tim Leary was in prison for many years and didn't complain about the experience too much.

Whats your problem here Lunar?

No one said anything about anyone not getting what they deserved. :tongue: The question was what one thinks of as the end of the line. I gave my opinion on that and if you don't like it tough.

Please share with us your experience of prison and then I will consider you somewhat of an expert.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Icelander]
    #5598180 - 05/06/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"Tim Leary was in prison for many years and didn't complain about the experience too much."

Well with people sending him "stamps" all the time coupled with the admiration of millions for his "suffering" I wouldn't consider that a "typical prison experience".

End of the line wouldn't be free LSD and admiring fans... :thumbdown:


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5598341 - 05/06/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You said prison.

Now you say you need to determine the type of experience one has in prison. You are contradicting yourself. All I ever said is that prison is not necessarily the end of the line. I'm sure there are other examples in the hundreds of thousands of people who have been incarcerated, that have come out better than they went in.

Again, what are you pissed off about. It's not like I'm saying prison is a joy ride. It's pure hell for most. WTF? :tongue: :rolleyes:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Icelander]
    #5599521 - 05/06/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"I'm sure there are other examples in the hundreds of thousands of people who have been incarcerated, that have come out better than they went in."
You mean, prison works to better people ? Welcome to the matrix ! :lol:
j/k


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Icelander]
    #5600061 - 05/07/06 03:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Prison is not the end of the line. True it's an ugly reality and one I would not choose, but some have found their path in prison.





Many find the path while incarcerated. There is something about adversity and hardship that draws a person towards God. You become more spiritually in tune.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5600359 - 05/07/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

BlueCoyote said:
"I'm sure there are other examples in the hundreds of thousands of people who have been incarcerated, that have come out better than they went in."
You mean, prison works to better people ? Welcome to the matrix ! :lol:
j/k




So often you miss the point. The person works to better themselves, and the horror of prison is the wake up call.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Icelander]
    #5600381 - 05/07/06 08:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Again I see you not getting my point. What about askin ?
:thumbdown:
I just look at things different then you.
It is good, sharing different points of views to widen ones limited horizon.

I think, if nature would be left more uninfluenced, prison would be not necessary, because someone who does harm, will get his punishment quite immediately.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Icelander]
    #5600392 - 05/07/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

no simple recipe exists in which you can be garanteed a glance at the tiger and be spared, but you will have to do it sometime. after a good gaze the fear may be gone.

I have met unafraid people
sometimes they say that
they have already died.

e.g. having lost all their family in the holocaust etc. tragic, and beyond.

- at least a tiger can be beautiful too, though we do not get to choose how the opportunity presents, pray you can keep your gaze when it does.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: Icelander]
    #5600458 - 05/07/06 09:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Prison basically enforces the prisoner's negative attitude towards a society what has risen it up. Simple psychology.

DoctorJ, if you compare god in prison with humans in prison, would you imprison yourself out of your free will, to 'protect' society from you ? That would be the god's prison, brought to human circumstances.
And if you think, god is punished by imprisoning him, that would be human's prison, brought to godly circumstances.

I think there is quite a difference.
G*d does not personally influence humans, out of free will, to let them their free will.
People punish other people by putting them into prison, to get rid of their 'free will'.

Please elxplain how you would see these both concepts, blending together.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5600476 - 05/07/06 09:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Prison basically enforces the prisoner's negative attitude towards a society what has risen it up. Simple psychology.

That could be a good thing in and of itself and is mostly true. If society imprisons unjustly (mostly the case) and does not provide humaine conditions then it's a good thing to really know where that society is comming from. Then you can strike out on your own.


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Re: the cure for paranoia [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5600479 - 05/07/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

BlueCoyote said:
Prison basically enforces the prisoner's negative attitude towards a society what has risen it up. Simple psychology.




That simple, eh? That must be why education for an aspiring criminal psychologist spans five to seven years, and requires a doctorate and state licensing.  :lol:

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