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Coitus
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: geko127]
#5605524 - 05/08/06 04:07 PM (18 years, 15 days ago) |
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Cut it with gelatine and put it in some caps.
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Catalysis
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: geko127]
#5606212 - 05/08/06 07:12 PM (18 years, 15 days ago) |
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But as you all know psyilocybin oxidises when air is exposed to it in crystal form
Just treat it like a fine wine.
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Fungi_x
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5606213 - 05/08/06 07:12 PM (18 years, 15 days ago) |
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Snaggletooth said: I like this.....
 
I'm very interested in bypassing stomach issues. I read that pure shit would make for a better trip.
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? *DELETED* [Re: Catalysis]
#5610409 - 05/09/06 08:48 PM (18 years, 14 days ago) |
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monstermitch
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: Tamadragon]
#5611268 - 05/10/06 12:49 AM (18 years, 13 days ago) |
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My 00's always read right around .55 or so.
Grind to a fine fine powder and cap-m-quick it up. Works great.
When the time comes, empty whatever many into a glass with fresh lemon/lime juice and shoot it down. Dose controlled and all is good to go, no fuss or muss or extraction, but lots of controlled dosing benefits.
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? *DELETED* [Re: monstermitch]
#5611719 - 05/10/06 07:19 AM (18 years, 13 days ago) |
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monstermitch
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: Tamadragon]
#5613740 - 05/10/06 05:05 PM (18 years, 13 days ago) |
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I crack them open into lemon juice and/or lime juice. The capsuls for me are like controlled dosage storage.
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: monstermitch]
#5615062 - 05/10/06 09:49 PM (18 years, 13 days ago) |
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Yea but some shroomers dont like the feeling that wet or dry shrooms give,(upset tummy feeling). Last night geko & his girl had about 10mls of concentrated shroom extract, And there was NO upset tummy feeling, Just a good very happy happy type feeling.
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FleaAccela
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: geko127]
#5655658 - 05/21/06 09:08 AM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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i can usually fit just under a gram in 1 capsule. about .9 to be specific.
you need to get yourself a $10 coffee grinder from wally world, grind it up for 60 seconds, shake, repeat this process about 6 times to make sure it's all nice and powdery (ocd much?).
bust open a capsule, fill it up with the powder and push down with a clean eraser edge of a pencil. do this as many times as possible. with enough room left to close the capsule up. a few tries and you should get it right.
comes out to a lil less than a gram, like i said. my friends usually say 3 is all they can handle, but i like 4-5
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monstermitch
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: FleaAccela]
#5655969 - 05/21/06 11:38 AM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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FleaAccela said: i can usually fit just under a gram in 1 capsule. about .9 to be specific.
you need to get yourself a $10 coffee grinder from wally world, grind it up for 60 seconds, shake, repeat this process about 6 times to make sure it's all nice and powdery (ocd much?).
bust open a capsule, fill it up with the powder and push down with a clean eraser edge of a pencil. do this as many times as possible. with enough room left to close the capsule up. a few tries and you should get it right.
comes out to a lil less than a gram, like i said. my friends usually say 3 is all they can handle, but i like 4-5
I grind to the finest powder possible and can only fit around .6 in each one. I use 00 capsuls, what size do you use. Never heard of .9 in a 00.
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: monstermitch]
#5656018 - 05/21/06 11:57 AM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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monstermitch said:
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FleaAccela said: i can usually fit just under a gram in 1 capsule. about .9 to be specific.
you need to get yourself a $10 coffee grinder from wally world, grind it up for 60 seconds, shake, repeat this process about 6 times to make sure it's all nice and powdery (ocd much?).
bust open a capsule, fill it up with the powder and push down with a clean eraser edge of a pencil. do this as many times as possible. with enough room left to close the capsule up. a few tries and you should get it right.
comes out to a lil less than a gram, like i said. my friends usually say 3 is all they can handle, but i like 4-5
I grind to the finest powder possible and can only fit around .6 in each one. I use 00 capsuls, what size do you use. Never heard of .9 in a 00.
lol, size 000 of course. makes everything sooooo much easier.
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: FleaAccela]
#5656023 - 05/21/06 11:59 AM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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*double post*
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monstermitch
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: FleaAccela]
#5656071 - 05/21/06 12:15 PM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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wow, I have some issues with big pills. I'm not a good pill popper. those 000's would be broken open into lemon juice for me.
good to know now what will fit into a 000. I have a tamping device (cap-m-quick), I think I might just get a 000 now. Wonder if 1.0 will fit?
I'll use the 000 for cubes and leave the 00 for pans.
thanks.
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: monstermitch]
#5656424 - 05/21/06 01:43 PM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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I just thought I'd mention that making chocolates is about the same amount of work (or less) as loading caps. It also has the benefit of not having to explain "what's in the pills" if someone sees you with them. The downside is that if you don't keep careful control over them or lose them, a kid might start eating them.
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christ_house
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: fastfred]
#5656526 - 05/21/06 02:19 PM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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chocolate is a mild MAOI so that could be one benefit..
in my own experience i've made a crude extract by rapidly boiling fresh diced mushrooms for 1 minute in lemon+water and then simmering for about 10 or until the liquid is a dark goldish brown. strain off the fungi and continue to leave on the stove at the lowest heat setting until the water has almost completely evaporated, leaving a brown/black tar at the bottom of the pan. (takes about 12 hours). scrape up, mix with chocolate. store in freezer. voila.
but i suppose you could just put all that tar/muck/psilly mud in some capsules.
one question.. could one substitute gelatin crystals or cod liver oil with something not animal-based when mixing/constituting psilocybe crystals? i'm very much attracted by the idea of a liquid extract but not mixing it with dead animals..
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: christ_house]
#5656960 - 05/21/06 04:16 PM (18 years, 2 days ago) |
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Agar is a gelatin substitute made from kelp. You can get it straight powder or as vegan jello. They have both at my local health food store. They call it agar agar and vegetarian jello.
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: fastfred]
#5675692 - 05/26/06 01:37 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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The thing about doing vacumm distillation to prevent destroying the Psilocybin doesnt make sense.
Heres what i think, please discuss as I may be wrong though.
Your creating a vacumm, which means there is no atmospheric pressure on the atoms. Which means you dont need to add that extra heat to overcome the 14.7psi caused by the atmosphere.
So in essence you are lowering the boiling point of the solvent (this case ethanol), BUT you are also lowering the boiling point of Psilocybin are you not?
So by using a vacum, you would be lowering the point that Psilocybin gets damaged.
So you would be in the exact same situation as you were before the vacumm wouldnt you?
eg, for arguments sake, if Psilocybin was destroyed at exactly 78C (the temp ethanol boils at) now a vacum was added, and the ethanol now boils at 50C, wouldnt the Psilocybin now be destroyed at 50C?
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Pinback
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: Ascension]
#5676137 - 05/26/06 07:15 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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When a molecule is broken down, it is the intramolecular bonds (bonds between atoms in the molecule) that breaks. Heat affects this, but pressure do not, at least not to any appreciable amount.
When a substance goes from liquid to gas phase, it is the intermolecular bonds that are broken, that is, bonds between molecules. Both pressure and temperature affect at which point this happens. So by lowering the pressure, one can decrease the boiling point without affecting the stability of the molecule.
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Ascension
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: Pinback]
#5679236 - 05/27/06 01:01 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Arh okai, makes sense now.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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toole
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Re: How should I extract for use in capsules?? [Re: Ascension]
#5681306 - 05/27/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wow this topic is very interesting-mmm
I love when I see a good forum disussion :-D
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