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Prune the casing w/pics
    #5595078 - 05/05/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I made some casings out of cakes. Got a nice pin set but 1 pin shot out quick. Should i pick the single pin so the rest mature evenly or leave it be? :confused:



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Re: Prune the casing w/pics [Re: SaveTheWhales]
    #5595192 - 05/05/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

a few of those already look aborted. i'd just let it flush, then pick 'em all, dunk, let drain for 15 minutes or so, then throw that bitch back in the fruiting chamber.


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Re: Prune the casing w/pics [Re: Optx]
    #5595404 - 05/05/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

doesn't matter. id you are gonna print some of these anyways just let it mature and grab it and print it the others just be right behind


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Re: Prune the casing w/pics [Re: skeletor]
    #5595503 - 05/05/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Mushrooms should be picked as they're ready. They aren't plants so don't prune them.
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Re: Prune the casing w/pics [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5595545 - 05/05/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

na,, you dont have to..
just pick it once it gets big enoug...
the others will grwo, in no time anyways


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Re: Prune the casing w/pics [Re: SaveTheWhales]
    #5595855 - 05/05/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Definitely yes pick it as it's only holding back the others "Basic Pinning 101". Sacrifice the few for the many is not a bad thing to get into your head ASAP, this will reward you many times over in the future. GL my friend!


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Re: Prune the casing w/pics [Re: hyphae]
    #5596107 - 05/05/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I respectfully disagree. How is it holding back the others? If he used multispore inoculation, it's likely fruiting from another separate substrain with a separate mycelial network from the rest.

Also, sometimes pins for the first several flushes form along with pins for the first flush. I've just never found in my experience that picking early birds has any effect whatsoever on future pin development. They just seem to either grow or abort when they please.
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Re: Prune the casing w/pics [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5597106 - 05/06/06 07:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I respectfully disagree.  How is it holding back the others?  If he used multispore inoculation, it's likely fruiting from another separate substrain with a separate mycelial network from the rest.

Also, sometimes pins for the first several flushes form along with pins for the first flush.  I've just never found in my experience that picking early birds has any effect whatsoever on future pin development.  They just seem to either grow or abort when they please.
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Two words hyphae network. It is not a seperate network at all it is a compatible network picking this one will benefit the rest as you know future flushes will not bolt until all of the present flush have been harvested or left to rot. It's all about available energy and priorities. You are correct multispore is nothing but substrains but they are all connected in this network thats how it works now if it were more than one strain then you would be correct in your assumption. I live by this standard and it has treated me well. Read page 150 of the TMC if you want another reference RR :wink: take care bro much respects back at ya!  :thumbup: :thumbup:


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Re: Prune the casing w/pics [Re: hyphae]
    #5597456 - 05/06/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

How do you know they are all connected in his network? Many substrains are incompatible with each other and never merge. Other substrains do merge by anastomosis, but the incompatible ones do not. Bear in mind, a 'strain' is created when two compatible hypahae join and share genetic information. The OMC definition of a 'strain' where it's named after a region the original was picked from is not mycologically correct. There is easily as much genetic diversity in a single sporeprint as there is between sporeprints from opposite sides of the planet. The species is Cubensis, the strain is whatever you end up with, fancy names notwithstanding.

In the pictures below, both strains were isolated from the same sporeprint, but are clearly incompatible, as seen from the uncolonized line of inhibition between them. It appears from the picture above, that is likely what's happening with his tray. The rest of the flush will grow when they're good and ready, whether or not he picks the early bird, which should have matured and been picked by now anyway.
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Re: Prune the casing w/pics [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5597860 - 05/06/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

We are not concerned with the incompatible ones as they will not fruit. A strain most definitely has characteristics most importantly spores with many other physical characteristics that can easily identify one strain from another to the trained mycologist. Many strains are so close in resemblence that only spores can tell them apart. I only recommend this from personal experience many times over. BTW it's not a strain that is created when two compatible hyphae join and share genetic information it is a substrain. And this substrain will share all the strains basic characteristics.


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