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DoctorJ


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god has no needs
#5595019 - 05/05/06 05:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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he only has desires.
and its a good thing, too!
because if he didn't desire your existence, you wouldn't be here.
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Icelander
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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
#5595025 - 05/05/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Who cares?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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DoctorJ


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Re: god has no needs [Re: Icelander]
#5595037 - 05/05/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i do
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Icelander
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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
#5595060 - 05/05/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Then why are you telling me that I wouldn't be here if god didn't care.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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MushmanTheManic
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Re: god has no needs [Re: Icelander]
#5596522 - 05/06/06 12:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said: Who cares?
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AlteredAgain
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God has no desires, for desiring requires the mind, and the mind is only a deception. The mind is not truth.
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Edited by AlteredAgain (05/06/06 12:33 AM)
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DoctorJ


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you are correct, and so am I
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AlteredAgain
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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
#5596608 - 05/06/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If God desired, you could be correct. But what if God made a mistake and accidentally allowed us to exist? You would still be here reading this very post, yet how would you then have any way of knowing whether or not God desired this?
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Edited by AlteredAgain (05/06/06 12:43 AM)
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DoctorJ


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god makes no mistakes
it only appears that way, because your view of him is blocked by his servants
"The greatest skill appears clumsy."
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Gomp
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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
#5596972 - 05/06/06 05:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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He: Usage Problem. Used to refer to a person whose gender is unspecified or unknown: “He who desires but acts not, breeds pestilence” (William Blake).
...God is but God!
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BlueCoyote
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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
#5597036 - 05/06/06 06:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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God isn't so confused to mix desire and care. Love is not equal desire, because that's selfish. G*d is not. If he* loves us so much that he* allowed our physical existence, as he* made us, to gain free will (like him*), his* care was to place us in the garden of eden (what was the rational uninfluenced nature imo). What we make out of his* care is up to us. If we misuse his* trust for our evil (unreturned trust by inflated egos), then god doesn't care as he* loves to see us grow and cares for us to make decisions for ourselves and all his creations care, learning from our mistakes, what in time is returning his* trust back to him.
*=he/she/it - his/her/its
So g*d has neither needs nor desires.
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Fucknuckle
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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
#5597258 - 05/06/06 09:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
DoctorJ said: he only has desires.
and its a good thing, too!
because if he didn't desire your existence, you wouldn't be here.
Wrong sir very wrong.
God is love and love has no desires
Desire is born from wants Wants are born form self Self is not love
Love is accpetance of...............everthing as it is. Love can not desire anything Love is God and God loves all as it is.
-------------------- What it is, is what it is my Brother. It is as it is, so suffer thru it.
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NariusFractal
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Re: god has no needs [Re: Fucknuckle]
#5597267 - 05/06/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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acceptance is born from ...
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Fucknuckle
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God
-------------------- What it is, is what it is my Brother. It is as it is, so suffer thru it.
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DoctorJ


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Re: god has no needs [Re: Fucknuckle]
#5597326 - 05/06/06 09:52 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Fucknuckle said:
Quote:
DoctorJ said: he only has desires.
and its a good thing, too!
because if he didn't desire your existence, you wouldn't be here.
Wrong sir very wrong.
biogted sir very bigoted.
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AlteredAgain
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Re: god has no needs [Re: DoctorJ]
#5597480 - 05/06/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
DoctorJ said: god makes no mistakes.
Mistakes and desires only surface because of the mind. Cut away the mind, and both disappear.
God is not desire. Mind is not truth.
Catch my drift?
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