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Psychoslut
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watering lophos
#5593973 - 05/05/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Im really obsessed with the way I water my lophs. I take a tablespoon and a bowl of mineral water and I water each loph with 3-6 tbsp water (depending on size) every two weeks. I always make sure not to get any water on the button itself, I always put the water at the bas nearest to the root. Today I decided I would deliberatly put water directly on them just to see what happens. Its amazing these things must soak up water through there skin fast or something because within 5 mins they were bone dry. All this time ive been super neurotic about how i give them water when I could of been just dumping it right on them.
Now that I know this I bet they even prefer to get water on them. I know this thread is boring as hell but oh well maybe somebody thinks its interesting. I think it really strange how fast they dry themselves. They are not even in the sun to be getting dried up, they have someway of drying themselves they must have.
BTW The graft I did worked well and I got new growth (in only 4 days ) and all that but the graft stock turned a bit black and I panicked and removed the scion. The blackness was only at the surface and was probably perfectly natural but I thought it was rot and didnt want it to spread so I removed my button.
Oh well live and learn next time I wont freak out about it.
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Re: watering lophos [Re: Psychoslut]
#5595095 - 05/05/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea....meet dr. evaporation.
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CptnGarden
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lol ^
i used to water my pedros by misting their skin slightly. the do infact absorb at least 70% of what i sprayed on there.
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Vertigo6911
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Re: watering lophos [Re: CptnGarden]
#5596114 - 05/05/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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they dry up quickly because the skin does not absorb the water. it is the fact that soil absorbs the water that slows down the evap process.
anyways i think you loph's can handle more water then that, what kind of pot are they in?
imo the best way to safely water loph's is to keep them in a small pot so it dries quicker.
i have 1 yo's in 1 inch pots wich i drench thuroughly every 2 weeks or once a month. when i water my loph's they almost double in sise and become more sphere shaped wile before i water them they look very flat, so its mostly the look that helps me decide if they need water.
i have an adult cactus and with that i decide by pinching it a little. if it feels hard its fine, if its soft it can handle some water.
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CptnGarden
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how come misting my pedros made them bigger and plumper? u sure cactus dont absorb water through the skin? I was pretty sure it was. I hadn't watered the soil for months and was just spraying it and it was still growing inches and inches every sunny season. if its not absorbing its got some very high amounts of mesc.
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Re: watering lophos [Re: Psychoslut]
#5599012 - 05/06/06 09:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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it would have to be alot of water for the cactus to swell like that. especialy since the water will dry up before it has half a chance to absorb any, and it takes alot more time to swell like that.
i think its more a matter of misting being more effective in hydrating the soil resulting in the cactus having more time to before it all evaps.
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if its not absorbing its got some very high amounts of mesc.
huh?
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CptnGarden
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not watering your pedros causes them to produce more mescaline. am I wrong?
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Re: watering lophos [Re: CptnGarden]
#5600625 - 05/07/06 10:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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ShroomieOfDoomie said: not watering your pedros causes them to produce more mescaline. am I wrong?
It's not really proven.
Besides if you were to test mescaline content by weight of a dried up under watered cactus and compare it to a healthy cactus, it would usually have more simply because of the decreased water content.
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Heya,
I am a bit at loss here. I have some SMALL L. williamsii seedlings (about half a centimeter diameter) and really have no clue how to water them properly? Let the soil dry out completely and then water or keep the soil moist constantly? My soil mix isn't the best at the moment (very, uhh, fluffy) and thought about transplanting them to better soil.
Thanks for any advice, 
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Re: watering lophos [Re: gilrand]
#7958985 - 01/31/08 02:05 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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good thread!
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Re: watering lophos [Re: casgoodie]
#7959075 - 01/31/08 03:16 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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water+hot sunshine= split discoloured cacti. be careful about it....this is why i always water mine at night.
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Re: watering lophos [Re: kadakuda]
#7959172 - 01/31/08 05:32 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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this is some good info that i found, cactus does not intake water through there skin, they can absorb moister through there pores at night but if you kept watering cactus on there skin it will not survive for prolonged periods. also cpt the reason your cactus kept growing is because that is what cacti do, i have cuttings with no roots, no direct sun, sitting in a basement and it still grows from the 2 pups it has.
Skin: The cactus skin is translucent and acts as the first line of defense against fungi, bacteria, and foraging animals. The skin has two parts: the epidermis and the hypodermis. A waxy layer of cells known as the cuticle covers the skin’s epidermis. The wax in the cuticle helps the stem to hold in its water vapor reducing water loss. On some cacti, the waxy cuticle is also lightly colored and reflects some of the incident light. This theoretically reduces the temperature of the stem, however, internal temperatures as high as 70C can be endured without fatal consequences. The cactus skin contains numerous stomata; the number of stomata per square area, however, is less than the number for normal plants - another water-saving characteristic. The skin's hypodermis layer provides mechanical support for the plant. Crystals in the hypodermis of some plants deter small animals from foraging on the plant.
For example, the stems of most cacti are massive and can store large amounts of water that sustain the plants during prolonged drought. Adaptations for water conservation also occur on a metabolic level. Cacti have a thick waxy cuticle on their stems, which acts as a waterproofing skin. Also, the pores (called stomata or stomates) in the cactus skin that are necessary for the uptake of carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere tend to open only at night. Much less water (generally 80–90% less) is lost by transpiration during the nocturnal opening of stomata by cacti compared with the daytime stomatal opening of most other plants. The opening of stomata at night presents a problem for photosynthesis, which requires light. Specifically, photosynthesis uses atmospheric carbon dioxide and the energy of sunlight to form sugars in the chloroplasts of the chlorenchyma. During the night malic acid accumulates in the large vacuoles of cactus chlorenchyma cells; during the next daytime, when the stomata have closed, carbon dioxide is released from the accumulated acid within the stems of cacti. Carbon dioxide is then fixed into sugars via photosynthesis when sunlight is available as the energy source. This process, known as crassulacean acid metabolism (CAM) because it was first discovered in the plant family Crassulaceae, is crucial for the adaptation of cacti to the dry conditions characteristic of deserts. Its water-conserving attribute is also important in the increasing cultivation of cacti for their fruits
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Re: watering lophos [Re: royer]
#7960571 - 01/31/08 02:59 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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royer9864 said: this is some good info that i found, cactus does not intake water through there skin, they can absorb moister through there pores at night but if you kept watering cactus on there skin it will not survive for prolonged periods. also cpt the reason your cactus kept growing is because that is what cacti do, i have cuttings with no roots, no direct sun, sitting in a basement and it still grows from the 2 pups it has.
Skin: The cactus skin is translucent and acts as the first line of defense against fungi, bacteria, and foraging animals. The skin has two parts: the epidermis and the hypodermis. A waxy layer of cells known as the cuticle covers the skin’s epidermis. The wax in the cuticle helps the stem to hold in its water vapor reducing water loss. On some cacti, the waxy cuticle is also lightly colored and reflects some of the incident light. This theoretically reduces the temperature of the stem, however, internal temperatures as high as 70C can be endured without fatal consequences. The cactus skin contains numerous stomata; the number of stomata per square area, however, is less than the number for normal plants - another water-saving characteristic. The skin's hypodermis layer provides mechanical support for the plant. Crystals in the hypodermis of some plants deter small animals from foraging on the plant.
For example, the stems of most cacti are massive and can store large amounts of water that sustain the plants during prolonged drought. Adaptations for water conservation also occur on a metabolic level. Cacti have a thick waxy cuticle on their stems, which acts as a waterproofing skin. Also, the pores (called stomata or stomates) in the cactus skin that are necessary for the uptake of carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere tend to open only at night. Much less water (generally 80–90% less) is lost by transpiration during the nocturnal opening of stomata by cacti compared with the daytime stomatal opening of most other plants. The opening of stomata at night presents a problem for photosynthesis, which requires light. Specifically, photosynthesis uses atmospheric carbon dioxide and the energy of sunlight to form sugars in the chloroplasts of the chlorenchyma. During the night malic acid accumulates in the large vacuoles of cactus chlorenchyma cells; during the next daytime, when the stomata have closed, carbon dioxide is released from the accumulated acid within the stems of cacti. Carbon dioxide is then fixed into sugars via photosynthesis when sunlight is available as the energy source. This process, known as crassulacean acid metabolism (CAM) because it was first discovered in the plant family Crassulaceae, is crucial for the adaptation of cacti to the dry conditions characteristic of deserts. Its water-conserving attribute is also important in the increasing cultivation of cacti for their fruits
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