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allen70
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Bluelou's Black Kow tek 1
#5593771 - 05/05/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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So has anybody tried this tek since he did last year? From what i got out of it all you need to do is set a black bag into a tray put some Kow in it, put some cakes on top, then cover with more shit and plastic rap. I want to attempt this outside in the woods. Ill probably dig up a 6inch deep hole that will most likely be very wide and attempt this tek. Think it'll work?
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: allen70]
#5593789 - 05/05/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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really depends on the quality of the Black Kow...
not all is made the same!~
some area of the country its great...
other area's it sucks!~
I really liked Blue Lou's grow log...
he is a funny mo fo!~
good luck!~
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allen70
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: Roadkill]
#5593880 - 05/05/06 12:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can I use other kinds of manure? Or is Black Kow ideal because you don't have to pasteurize. I haven't read much on pasteurization yet.
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Dr_Weird
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: allen70]
#5594092 - 05/05/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Everyone says horse poo is better but it takes forever to order a bag of it pre-pasturized. I'm actually trying an outdoor grow with rabbit poo but it might be messed up because of the sawdust mixed in it. If it doesn't work I want to try the black kow tek because I know its easy to get.
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: Dr_Weird]
#5594803 - 05/05/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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every time i tried using cows dung, i failed. just get some hpoo from a stable around you, there must be at least one at your area... its the easiest to handle...
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: Yefet2000]
#5594884 - 05/05/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I hear they don't really
use manure from a "Black Cow", or Angus.
Its all from mixed breeds.
Like:
Semmental
Herford... Polled and plain
Xinjiang Brown
Holstien
Charolais
Jersey
Santa Gertrudis
Texas longhorn
Guernsey
Brahman
brown swiss
Florida Cracker
Shorthorn
Thats all I can think of, of course there are
basterdized versionsd of these Bovine.
http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/cattle/ http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/cattle/simmental/index.htm
Edited by alsnow469 (05/05/06 05:20 PM)
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: Dr_Weird]
#5594948 - 05/05/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dr_Weird said: Everyone says horse poo is better but it takes forever to order a bag of it pre-pasturized.
Horse poo is way better and believe it or not, some people actually pasteurize their own
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: FooMan]
#5600973 - 05/07/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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HAHAHAHA another pupil.....GREAT!!
HOPEFULLY your Black Kow is good enuff in your area folks? WEll im from the shroom capitol as you may know FL,it works very easy for me and THANKS there ROAD been a while........
EASY/FUN is waht alot of you can find doing my teks,both casing trays or shelf even in the ground will work assuming you have rain cover!
Keep a cover on the piles till they pin you can even just leave it on the whole time! THe shrooms will push the cover up anyway hahahahahaha!!! Did ya see my trays with clear plastic food rap on them in my garage SHIT!! All fruited very well for me and hopefully for you my new friend thanks... Here if ya need help! PEACE.
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: bluelou]
#5600982 - 05/07/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey blue, you ever have success growing outdoors with contaminated casings? What would you do if you had a bunch of slightly contaminated casings?
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allen70
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5603174 - 05/07/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, I've drawn Blue to my post, lol. I just started diving into this whole thing and I kinda wanna try everything at once. (I only have the summer for now cause college starts in august) I just ordered 4 syringes and they should be in at the end of the week. I'm def doing pf jars, hopefully a whole lot of em. But I also want to do this poo tek. Blue I don't have a PC or any of those things you need to be super sterile. I have a stove to boil on, some pots, and water. What kinda bulk grow do you think I can whip up? I'm gonna use liquid tek to multiply my 4 syringes into as many as needed. Thanks a lot.
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: allen70]
#5603203 - 05/07/06 11:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I forgot....I have been volunteering at a barn!!! I can probably get loads of horse shit! Will I need straw too? I can probably get that as well. So if I get this crap and some straw can I just dig a huge whole in he woods, dump a mix of straw/poo, and throw in cakes or w/e. I have to pasteurize first right? Just use the pillowcase tek?
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: allen70]
#5603219 - 05/07/06 11:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You don't have to pasteurize the poo for an outdoor grow. Contamination isn't a problem outdoors.
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: allen70]
#5603227 - 05/07/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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allen70
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: FooMan]
#5603281 - 05/07/06 11:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't have to do anything with the poo but do I ahve to soak the hay like in Moe's tek? Also if contams aren't a problem outside can I just do all my work outside and not worry about it. I'm guessing outside only elimates contams if the whole process takes place outside
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: allen70]
#5603288 - 05/07/06 11:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also i htink i asked this in another thread, but can I replace crumbled cakes, with a big bucket of Liquic Culture?
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: allen70]
#5603310 - 05/07/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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allen70 said: I don't have to do anything with the poo but do I ahve to soak the hay like in Moe's tek? Also if contams aren't a problem outside can I just do all my work outside and not worry about it. I'm guessing outside only elimates contams if the whole process takes place outside
You want to do your jars indoors in sterile conditions to create some good spawn material. Follow Moe's tek and you'll be good to go. You don't even have to be exact with the tek. I've thrown poo and cakes together and gotten good results, but straw mixed in would be better.
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: allen70]
#5603325 - 05/07/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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allen70 said: Also i htink i asked this in another thread, but can I replace crumbled cakes, with a big bucket of Liquic Culture?
It may work. I've always heard advice against it, but I can't say not to try it being that I've never tried it like that myself.
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allen70
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: FooMan]
#5603333 - 05/07/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the help....as soon as I get these syringes We'll see how all these different teks work. As long as i can get a liquid tek to work I am going to try everything I possibly can.
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: allen70]
#5606655 - 05/08/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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allen70 said: As long as i can get a liquid tek to work I am going to try everything I possibly can.
That's very good to hear! keep us posted
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Re: Bluelou's Black Kow tek [Re: shroomballa]
#5774479 - 06/20/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i read this tek and was wondering if i could get some black kow and press it together making a cow pattie and just put a spore print on it and keep it humid?
http://www.entheogen.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=66&Itemid=2
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