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Asante
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Re: Nigger [Re: Fospher]
#5597497 - 05/06/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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this PC day and age
Take a look in this spirituality forum. Then go to the Politics forum. Then go to OTD.
"This day and age" isn't at all Politically Correct, most people here seem to dislike or loathe PC-ness.
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BlueRidge
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for the original poster,
you used a word apt for miscommunication, no one is right or wrong. if you dont want a confusing situation, dont use it around someone you dont know too well.
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Fospher
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Re: Nigger [Re: Asante]
#5599148 - 05/06/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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this PC day and age
Take a look in this spirituality forum. Then go to the Politics forum. Then go to OTD.
Okay ... is that supposed to be some retort to what I said? And I already do visit those three forums. Them + cult + privacy and security are the only ones worth looking at here.
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"This day and age" isn't at all Politically Correct, most people here seem to dislike or loathe PC-ness.
Maybe that's because people here are drug users and most represent the counter culture, no wonder they're not agreeing with the masses.
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MushmanTheManic
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Re: Nigger [Re: Fospher]
#5599276 - 05/06/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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nigger.
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Stonerguy
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"Sticks and stones break your bones, but words cause fucking riots"
So an african american (Has NAACP tried to make this socialably unexceptable yet?) got made because you said nigga? If I am racist for saying that we didn't put blacks into slavary, their own goddamn "brothas" and "sista" sold them to us. If we should give pitty to any race at all it would be indians(the ones from america) and/or jews. Both their races at some point in time have been killed in mass quantities.
Also why the fucking can't everyone be a god damned american? What is with this bulshit where you have to state what race you are almost everyone will have the word american in it, except cacajun....
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Fospher
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LOL
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Lakefingers

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Re: Nigger [Re: Fospher]
#5600211 - 05/07/06 05:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's easy for you to say all this at a webboard dominated by middle-class whites.
Suprisingly only a few posters have mentioned the emotional level -- the simple thing that the guy was hurt, regardless of what ideological bullshit you, he, or society has about "nigger".
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Mushroom_Mike
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it's just a body. and it's just a word.
the only thing that truly matters is the vibe that is given with the words spoken.
and that's the bottom line in my eyes.
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Mushroom_Mike
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im half black half white by the way, so fuck ya'll. ill say nigger all i wan and i'll say cracker all i want. 
to the white people im a nigger. and to the black people im a white boy. its pretty fuckin gay. its just a mother fucking body to me. ignorant souls make it out like our bodies are who we are, NOPE. sorry. wake the fuck up and see the truth. its just a body. the KKK leaders of today will be your black folks being called niggers of tomorrow. its called karma.
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Re: Nigger [Re: Fospher]
#5600331 - 05/07/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fospher said: No. A word is a way to convey an idea, as of today it is currently our best. By telling someone something, I'm not merely making air resonances to vibrate my vocal chords producing a sound, I'm relating a thought.
How very observant. The fact remains that the word has the meaning we give it. It is the responsibility of the individual to properly interpret meaning when it is expressed. The word itself has no meaning, it is the context in which it is used and the accompanying body language and manner in which it is expressed.
If it was being proposed as an insult and in a negative context, then the situation would have escalated in a confrontational manner, as the black person would have been offended and the white person would have had the intent of provocation.
Based on the description of the situation, all I see is someone using a word in a non-threatening, non-offensive manner, perhaps with a tinge of humor, and then the other person getting emotionally upset for no reason.
Boo fucking hoo! 
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If you started telling a bunch of pizza oven/jew jokes to an Auchwitz survivor, nobody would find it funny, even if you did not mean any harm.
So now you are the ultimate source on what would and would not be found humorous?
How tragic. 
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Why don't you follow your own advice, and walk around Southside Chi-town with a sign that says "I HATE NIGGERS" (a la diehard), and tell some thugs that they're just being irrational and get over themselves? Put your theory to test, you know.
What theory of mine would I be putting to the test? Obviously, there is a distinct difference between the situation that you are proposing and the one that we are discussing here. Obviously, your situation is mere provocation. My point was that, in the relevant situation, there was no intention of provocation, and that it is the responsibility of the black person to apply his perceptions of reality to realize that, and to get over himself and shrug his shoulders, and claim "Big fucking deal! Life is too short to inflict suffering upon myself when no one intended on inflicting it upon me!".
Oh my fucking god, someone used the word "nigga", let's ruin our experience of life because of it! 
Even if someone was intentionally attempting to degrade me, I'd fucking shrug, man. Life is too short to allow others to ruin you emotionally.
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I agree. This post nailed it.
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its about respect, u say nigga roud white people not roud black people, sometimes it slips, but alot understand.
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MushmanTheManic
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fireworks_god said:
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If you started telling a bunch of pizza oven/jew jokes to an Auchwitz survivor, nobody would find it funny, even if you did not mean any harm.
So now you are the ultimate source on what would and would not be found humorous? 
Non-sequitur.
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Non-sequitur.
I agree.. I also think it's inappropriate to be so sneering and non-productive when you take your own discussion so seriously.
I've yet to see Fireworks God give any ground at all in any debate, let alone conceed even partial incorrectness/inaccuracy. But maybe I've just not seen those posts. How does he do it? Well, he doesn't really, but I think he achieves that illusion quite succesfully. It's all about presentation and selective argument 
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Re: Nigger [Re: mr_kite]
#5602253 - 05/07/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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He is the love child of Veritas and myself. We had to let go of him because we were young and unmarried and bowed to the pressure of our very religous parents. Now he has come back into our lives to seek his revenge.
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MushmanTheManic said: Non-sequitur.
Bullshit. He is asserting what "everyone" would not find humorous. I scoffed at the fact that he proposes himself to be the ultimate source on what would and would not be found humorous.
Can it be substantiated that an Auchwitz survivor would never find a Jew/pizza oven humorous? Of course not. Is it perfectly plausible that one would find it humorous? Most certainly.
Not everyone has a stick shoved up their fucking ass, even those who suffer great tragedies. In fact, humor can be a very powerful treatment in dealing with tragedy. Such a survivor who could laugh and see the humor in a joke about a Jewish pizza in an oven would certainly be the true survivor of Auchwitz, eh?
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Icelander
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Go son.
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fireworks_god
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Re: Nigger [Re: mr_kite]
#5602326 - 05/07/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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mr_kite said: I agree.. I also think it's inappropriate to be so sneering and non-productive when you take your own discussion so seriously.
Non-productive? Yes, discussing the topic at hand and engaging in debate of that topic is non-productive, while standing at the side-lines and trolling individuals who you do not agree with (mostly because of the fact that they have previously challenged your own ideas and you could either not emotionally handle it or were unable to effectively respond) is the shining example of productivity. 
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I've yet to see Fireworks God give any ground at all in any debate, let alone conceed even partial incorrectness/inaccuracy.
I've yet to see you become involved in any discussion that I am participating in and actually contribute to the topic at hand, without first and foremost commenting on me personally, my behavior, my emoticon usage, or my spelling and grammar.
If you feel the need to analyze myself to such an extent and make it known (you obviously do, as you do it ), feel free to pm me and/or post about me in a forum where it is acceptable.
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But maybe I've just not seen those posts.
Selective reading? 
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How does he do it? Well, he doesn't really, but I think he achieves that illusion quite succesfully. It's all about presentation and selective argument 
Hhhmm... presentation... the act of representing your expressions for others to consider.... selective arguement.... the act of making a decision as to what points you wish to respond to.... wow... let me think... something every single person here does. 
In a thread of over six pages, you only responded to me personally, and presented analyzation and commentary on me. Selective arguement? Let's not be hypocritical. 
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Icelander
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ouch!
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MushmanTheManic
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Within the context of his post, I cannot find any evidence to support the assertion that he views himself as "the ultimate source on what would and would not be found humorous." He seemed to be using an example to illustrate his point.
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