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MushmanTheManic
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Libertinage
#5588194 - 05/03/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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From a fairly young age, around 15 or so, I've considered perversity to be a virtue. I was fired from my previous job for brazenly reading a pornographic magazine and am quite proud of that accomplishment. I've also had an entertaining adventure into sadism (which I will not discuss here).
I consider perversity and sexual deviation as a type of reactive nihilism against the herd's silly taboos. Ironically, I also think far too many people are unhealthily obsessed with sex. Sex is not something I value per se, rather I value sexual acts which violate some established taboo. Why? Simply because it is a rebellion against the herd mentality which seems to be deeply entrenched in the sexual arena. How many times does a man openly admit he likes a little prostate stimulation? Hardly ever, if at all. And, how many of you would think "gross" when you heard him admit it?
By the way Skorpie, nice sig.
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You bad boy you. 
I like some light prostrate stimulation. Fortunately my girlfriend is more than willing to give it.
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SkorpivoMusterion
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LOL!!!
I haven't cackled in a while.
Anyway, I agree - bust down those arbitrary, inane walls of silly taboos.
Come to think of it, I think the reason for the rise in the popularity of anal sex is precisely the same kind of progressive, rebelliousness that becomes released in sexuality - as with you and many others.
More power to the adventurous is all I have to say.
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Quote:
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I value sexual acts which violate some established taboo. Why? Simply because it is a rebellion against the herd mentality which seems to be deeply entrenched in the sexual arena
Hypothetically, if there were no sexual act that was taboo, would that affect the types of sexual acts you perform? Do you enjoy the sexual acts because they are "perverted", or because you enjoy the acts themselves?
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I'm not so sure that it's a virtue to shock people like that, but it sure is fun.
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MushmanTheManic
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Re: Libertinage [Re: justAkid]
#5588410 - 05/03/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, it would. Doing something forbidden is quite rewarding.
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The forbidden fruit always has its consequence.
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MushmanTheManic
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Re: Libertinage [Re: Sinbad]
#5588485 - 05/03/06 11:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Name something which has no consequences.
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MushmanTheManic
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Shocking people may not be a virtue, but I think consciously rebelling against taboos is.
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Of course, all actions have there consequences, but the consequences for senselessly following your desire are usually greater than you can imagine.
Are you familiar with thw Adam and Eve story? Need i say any more?
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MushmanTheManic
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Re: Libertinage [Re: Sinbad]
#5588567 - 05/04/06 12:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You misunderstand. I'm not preaching hedonism.
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Where did i say you were preaching headonism? 
In fact headonism is actually short for getyourheadonism
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MushmanTheManic
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Re: Libertinage [Re: Sinbad]
#5588657 - 05/04/06 12:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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"senselessly following your desire"
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gettinjiggywithit
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Why? Simply because it is a rebellion against the herd mentality which seems to be deeply entrenched in the sexual arena. How many times does a man openly admit he likes a little prostate stimulation? Hardly ever, if at all. And, how many of you would think "gross" when you heard him admit it?
There's nothing new about that behind closed doors, and even talking about engaging in perverted or taboo sexual acts has been a norm amongst friends. Nothing shocking or rebellious there.
If you really want to rebel against the herd mentality in a gross, perverted or shocking manor, why not stick french fries up your nostrils or eat spaghetti without utensils the next time your out in a public restaurant or take a blow up doll out for dinner and a movie, or stand around in the middle of a mall or park just spanking your ass like you're loving it. 
I mean, stuff like that is legal and yet I think would feel more liberating in a gross shocking or perverted way to you then doing in private and then talking about something people have always done.
It's 2006. Get original Mush! 
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SkorpivoMusterion
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eat spaghetti without utensils the next time your out in a public restaurant
Funny you mention that. I've seen someone do precisely that - and yes, with spaghetti. But it was a Hindu man, and he was feeding his son, who was somewhere around 7 or so years of age - well capable of feeding himself. Evidently, this family insisted on their arbitrary, religious traditions. It was pretty disturbing, to see a fairly matured child eat spaghetti out of someone's hands [with all fours on the floor], like an animal. Forbid his son should gain a few increments of confidence in skills of independence, hmm? Apparently they think it's best he learn the "virtue" of humility as early as possible. Sad, just sad. 
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MushmanTheManic
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Nothing shocking or rebellious there.
Didn't you say you considered ignoring Skorpivo because of his signature???? I know some others here did.
Sexual Taboo's exist. Case in point: Seeing some black singers tit for two seconds offended this entire goddamn nation! Maybe YOU don't think its shocking or rebellious, but you are not everybody.
I think the majority of Americans would view me negatively if I told them I enjoy having my girlfriend tie me up and sodomize me. Shit, thats an arrestable offense in some places and the FCC would certianly censor the word "sodomize"! To a lot of men, being seen as a homosexual is one of the worst things that could happen to them.
And remember: Tits are illegal. You can show breast enlargement surgery on TV, as long as the nipple is blurred.
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SkorpivoMusterion said: eat spaghetti without utensils the next time your out in a public restaurant
Funny you mention that. I've seen someone do precisely that - and yes, with spaghetti. But it was a Hindu man, and he was feeding his son, who was somewhere around 7 or so years of age - well capable of feeding himself. Evidently, this family insisted on their arbitrary, religious traditions. It was pretty disturbing, to see a fairly matured child eat spaghetti out of someone's hands [with all fours on the floor], like an animal. Forbid his son should gain a few increments of confidence in skills of independence, hmm? Apparently they think it's best he learn the "virtue" of humility as early as possible. Sad, just sad. 
What does that have to do with Hinduism?
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Quote:
MushmanTheManic said: Shocking people may not be a virtue, but I think consciously rebelling against taboos is.
So it's a virtue to sleep with your sister?
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Re: Libertinage [Re: Sinbad]
#5589308 - 05/04/06 08:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sinbad said: The forbidden fruit always has its consequence.
The voice of religion. DON'T DO THIS OR ELSE. 
Everything is a learning experience and often the "consequence" is better than we imagined.
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gettinjiggywithit
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Mush,
Tis true, I said that my 9 year old daughter comes around a lot when I am reading. For many reasons I don't want her seeing porn at this age. What if she told people I show it too her and child welfare ends up at my door? Yet she is well aware of that homosexuality is an attraction to the opposite sex and she is comfortable with that. I haven't repressed her regarding telling her it is wrong or sinful or gross.
In general, the research shows that children seeing images of sexual acts can have an effect on the healthy attitude they have towards their own sexuality when they mature into it. That's why I made the comment that I didn't want to warp her mind either. This isn't about my needs to free myself from social taboos, its about yours. I am perfectly okay with the ones I agree to go along with. If I don't agree, I don't go along.
Anyway, Skorp, I see your view and yet, aren't you doing the same thing others do when they shake their head in disapproval and disgust of homosexuality, or men enjoying hetero anal stimulation? Are not your comments based on your personal views of how people should act regarding feeding themselves in public?
American society has repressed themselves into a culture that eats such foods with utensils because we otherwise find it gross, uncivilized or offensive and just plain wrong to do.
The topic here was about rebelliously liberating yourself from repressive social taboos.
Those people from another culture were able to do that in public here without feeling embarrassed or ashamed. The bottom line is, they have liberated themselves to experiencing more freedom in our own culture then we have. That's what it's about.
I think I proved my suggestion being even better to you Mush if thats what you are after. Skorp had zero negative reaction to your posts declaration and yet look at his disapproving uproar regarding eating spaghetti with hands or feeding it to others with hands on all fours in public. Far more shocking and disapproved of by others in this repressive uptight society we live in in this day and age.
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