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Offlinealsnow469
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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: thenewguy05]
    #5589529 - 05/04/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My heat bomb didn't work too well,

until I layed it on its side. :eek:


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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: alsnow469]
    #5589545 - 05/04/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

apparently i live in one. ill trade you. i realy have a big problem with it melting in the sun in vancouver.


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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: monstermitch]
    #5590291 - 05/04/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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monstermitch said:
"Heatbomb", that's hilarious.




yes it is  :cool:

lets heatbomb them jars !



now, you say that it barely increases your watertemp, in the original bomb i used a 50watt heater
and a styrofoam cooler.

the idea is to provide small skale incubation which happenes very well within small space, in this case a max of 9 jars.
as i switched it on and left the lid of the cooler shut for 24 h,
it went from originally 18C roomtemp to 25 and i got it to stay steady
at around 27.

its all about the tweaking, maybe you should try to get anyother aquarium heater to try it out.

and i point it out again, for all the nay sayers, this is for "small scale" - want something bigger - go for them titties :wink:


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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: sbox134]
    #5590303 - 05/04/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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sbox134 said:
I have it in a glass sobe bottle, but when it is on it is so hot that it nearly burns to touch it.




this shouldnt really be the case as that would indicate temps exceeding 30-35C,
try lowering the "max heat" setting - im sure itll also increase your heaters lifetime.


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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: ohmatic]
    #5590315 - 05/04/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

my heatbomb lives in its cooler and runs at 30 degrees on its dial. this 30 degrees coencides with 29-30 degrees in real live says my thermometer as long as i have a blanket over the cooler.

basically it comes down to aquarious heats arn't really heaters they are stayers. they are meant to keep the temperature up at a temp not heat it up. so its all comes down to unsulation. you could in theory have a big incubator with a pinner heat bomb is it was exteamly well insulated.


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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: skeletor]
    #5590325 - 05/04/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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skeletor said:
its all comes down to unsulation.




right and space, the smaller the nicer :smile:


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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: skeletor]
    #5590512 - 05/04/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Went out and purchased an Igloo 54 (54 qt capacity):



I placed the eight qt jars (seven WBS and one LC) along with the heatbomb into the Igloo. Closed the lid on the electric cord. It didn't pinch too badly at all.

Now I'm up to 79.5F and rising.

I look at it this way; if it goes no higher than 80F, that's fine. I can always turn the aquarium heater down.

Heck. I think I'm going to use this container for my entire grow.

* The internal Igloo footprint is fairly large, about 20"x11". The available headspace is roughly 11.5" or so. So if I use a 3" casing with 0.5" of verm above and below that'll leave me with roughly 7.5" of mushroom headspace.

* This thing is insulated out the wazoo (obviously, it's a cooler) so a single wimpy 10 gal aquarium heater in a heatbomb can heat the whole thing. When it gets warmer and I need to switch to pinning temps I can easily rig up slots in the cover to insert icepacks. Velcro maybe? I'll have a lot of options.

* There is a water drainage port toward the bottom which would allow me to (a) run cables more "professionally", (b) do some active cooling/heating or (c) run a soaker cable through the casing to add moisture mid-grow or even to perform a "dunk" without moving a darned thing.

* Completely inconspicuous. Picnic coolers are about as common as Volvos in these parts.

[cross-posted to my grow]

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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: splifner180]
    #5590555 - 05/04/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

try heating up a 2 liter pop bottle heatbomb to 84 before u put in the cooler, it will heat it NICE. (with insulation)


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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: Leanin]
    #5590626 - 05/04/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know. This little 16oz bottle seems to be putting the temps right on the money. I'm at 80.8F now. Judging by the heat increase slowdown, my gut tells me it'll level off around 81.5F or so.

But I'll keep that in mind if the 16oz doesn't cut the mustard on a future grow in a larger area.

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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: splifner180]
    #5590637 - 05/04/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

haha no the ilgoo is for BEERs the shitty red one if for growing! haha
do you really need to heat your fc? how cold if your room temp splif?


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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: skeletor]
    #5590699 - 05/04/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Right this second it's 79F in my room but for the last week it's been 69-71F and it has sucked. I knocked up eight jars six days ago and my jars show nothing.

I'm worried that the moisture in my jars might be kaput but here's how I did it. Maybe someone else can tell me if I screwed the pooch.

I boiled a large pot of water. Once it reached a rolling boil I removed the pot from the heat and dumped in 5 lbs of WBS. Strained off all the sunflower seeds. Let sit for roughly 22 hours if memory serves. Placed half the seed into a colander and let it sit for about 15 minutes to drain. Gave it a few shakes. Still quite moist but not dripping. Very few of the kernels had ruptured.

Prepared the jars themselves. They are 1 qt wide-mouth Bell jars. The lids each have two 5/32" holes drilled in with a piece of micropore tape over each. Again, these are fairly small holes.

Spooned the WBS into four jars about 60% full and PC'd at 15 PSI for 60 minutes. Spooned more WBS into three more jars around 80% full (I was being cautious on the first four jars, worried about expansion) and PC'd at 15 PSI for 60 minutes.

Once removed from the PC, all seven jars appeared to be puddle-free but the seeds sticking against the sides had a "water halo" around them. This led me to believe I'd nailed the moisture perfect.

Let cool overnight and knocked up the next day. I only injected spores into one of the two holes in the cover and that inoculation point was covered with a second piece of micropore. So now one hole has two pieces of tape while the other has just one.

I did shake the syringe hard before knocking up. Each jar got 1cc/ml of spore solution with the exception of one jar which got 3ml (on purpose).

Covered all jars with USPS tyvek, labeled them and secured the tyvek with an elastic.

Shook all jars extremely well to both distribute spores and to break up the small clumps. To be honest I've given them a shake about every other day out of impatience, just to see something.

These jars have been sitting in a CLOSED file-sized Sterilite container so there has been very little wicking of moisture from the ambient air. Unfortunately the temps have stayed around 70-74F all week.

So ...what do you think? After a day of soaking and the moisture content like I describe, and the conditions for the last week with no show of myc, would you suspect I have a moisture issue?

I could take a pic but I don't think it'll do any good. They just look like seeds.

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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: splifner180]
    #5590747 - 05/04/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

nah i think you are fine. 6 days is well within the limits especially since you were running such a low temp in the room. i bet you a print that 24 hours at over 80 you will see growth.


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Re: Problems Using Heatbomb [Re: skeletor]
    #5590805 - 05/04/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hmmm. Ok. You're on.

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