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    #5585772 - 05/03/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

make my rye casings? I have 20qts of rye colonizing and have built a greenhouse in my closet now im wondering how deep I should make the casings. Im planning on mixing a shit ton of verm into the rye for moisture so the stuff is going to be part verm.

Im thinking 4 inches of rye, adding 2 inches of moist verm then mixing and casing with one more inch of verm. You think thats over kill or going to flush like madd?


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Re: How thick should I.... [Re: Fungi_x]
    #5585783 - 05/03/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

personally i would mix the vermiculite with the rye if that is going to be your method. i would use at least 5-6 quarts per casing. i used 2 quarts in a casing and the fruits are just tiny as hell. nothing got over 2 inches tall.


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Re: How thick should I.... [Re: thenewguy05]
    #5585849 - 05/03/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This is funny cause I say dont go beyond 3-4 including the layer.

I hear at 5 inches the case could 'suffocate' from the lack of oxygen.

There are always to many chefs in the kitchen.

So in  the end your on your own  :grin:

Now how much do you need LxWxH, then you need to convert it Gals, Cups.....or you can use thishttp://www.unitcalc.com/calc_vap.php


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Re: How thick should I.... [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5585984 - 05/03/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

id so not over 4 inches. mix in verm for moisture and then put your casing layer on.


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Re: How thick should I.... [Re: skeletor]
    #5585990 - 05/03/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

just remember that it takes energy to colonize the verm you are tossing in and since verm has no nutrients its not getting any energy back. so its a trade off. you are using a scarce resource to get another one, that being water. at some point the cost of using more energy will not be made up with having that extra water. so its a balancing act.

edit. also rye will need less verm then wbs. it just holds water better i hear. ive enver used rye myself but with wbs i put in a good sum of verm but i don't measure or anything.


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    #5586854 - 05/03/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Making the substrate layer thicker wont give you a much bigger yield. For me 2* as much substrate gave 20% more. Thats for the first flush only. More substrate does mean you can get more flushes and have a higher yield on later flushes because not all nutes will be spent on the first flush.
This can be a good or a bad thing. If you like to harvest a lot at once then I'd make as many casings as you can. If you like to harvest over time I'd make a few big casings. Probably all together both versions will have the same total yield. But only if your patient enough to take your casings through 4-5 flushes (if you used thick substrate layers).
Also instead of adding vermiculite you can add some coir which will get colonized very quickly and will also give extra water. I do this as a water reservoir. I use a 90%/10% coir/verm mix to the rye in a ratio of about 10:1 rye coir. mostly to add moisture... mix it in good and put a casing layer ontop of that. For me it works good.


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