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Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..?
    #5585440 - 05/03/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This may be a classic nub question... but answer it anyway, please.

I haven't done acid. Shrooms, I've done close to 15 times, and know they can screw with your mind very much while tripping. Now, I've heard horror stories of people taking acid and freaking the fuck out.. seems like there's more of those stories regarding acid, not shrooms. I'm just trying to get passed these rumors before I decide to go on a hunt for an acid experience. How is acid compared to shrooms, in terms of the mind fuck.. on low doses, on medium doses, and high doses? Thanks.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: hoboblues] * 1
    #5585479 - 05/03/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I find LSD to be more lucid and easier to handle than mushrooms.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: kaniz]
    #5585503 - 05/03/06 12:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I personally believe that mushrooms are more prone to feeling out of control. It's hard to remember exactly how many times I've taken LSD, but I believe it to be around 30 times... but every time I've felt a profound sense of well-being, only sometimes punctuated with a little anxiety. Mushrooms, on the other hand, have frequently made me feel scared or out of control.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: Mezcal]
    #5585546 - 05/03/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ive done both numerous times and in my experience LSD is a little less of a mindfuck and I guess easier to control. However, if you are tripping and trying to control, then you are going to be sent out of control on either substance.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: dedjam]
    #5585677 - 05/03/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Set, setting, dose and the condition of your self will give you "control".
Acid is not that different, remember all the safety rules and remember you'll be ok.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: hoboblues]
    #5585819 - 05/03/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I can see how it could go either way with each.  I've done most of my tripping with shrooms, and acid just once.  In my one comparison, shrooms seemed like an "untamed beast" compared to my experience with acid (and I do love shrooms). 

However, at its heaviest, I could see how someone could get very turned around (confused) on LSD.  My thoughts were so driven and clear and punctuated that it was almost blinding. 

Although I am the type of person who takes these drugs to lose control of my thoughts.  :smile:


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: MOTH]
    #5587132 - 05/03/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i find mush to be like the fungus is showing me the truth about life whether it be good, or bad.

i find cid to be like a key to explore your own mind.


lsd to me is much easier to control


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: hoboblues]
    #5587162 - 05/03/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

acid is much smoother feeling, alot more controllable and I feel alot more euphoria on it, less mental confusion and more clarity.

shrooms I often find very strong body and mind fuck up where I sometimes forget what I am, how to walk, how to swallow etc


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: Agalloch]
    #5587179 - 05/03/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Spot on - mushrooms can be harsh teachers.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5587521 - 05/03/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

In my experiences:

LSD - you are the driver of the experience
Shrooms - you are the passenger


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: hoboblues]
    #5587589 - 05/03/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Wow.. I'm pretty surprised and relieved, in a way, from the responses so far.  I'll still give acid as much respect as it deserves, but with a huge weight off of my shoulders.  Now, I just need to find some...  :wink:


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: hoboblues]
    #5587819 - 05/03/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

good luck


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: toader123]
    #5588034 - 05/03/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've had good and bad trips on both. Only one bad shroom trip and let me tell you... it took me to hell itself.

I would say dose for dose (acid being 1 strong hit and shrooms being 2.5 grams) shrooms would take you out of control before several doses of acid will.

It does rely a lot on setting and I am sure you could have just as bad a trip on acid, I just find it easier to control. It's possible everyone will tell you a different answer based on their experience with the two... no one can say for sure


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: grimR]
    #5588213 - 05/03/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't understand; if acid is such a clean experience, would would a new person to psychadelics want to take shrooms first? The only thing I can see is that doses of acid varies a lot, which isn't a good thing for a first timer, but if one knew the strength of his or her LSD, wouldn't that be a wiser choice?


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: fazdazzle]
    #5588312 - 05/03/06 11:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

A couple things steered me away from acid..

One, was the rumors of bad trips, compared to rumors of bad trips on shrooms.

Two, I think shrooms are suggested to a first time psychedelic user because of the duration of the trip.. if things go wrong, you'll be down in a couple hours or so.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: hoboblues]
    #5588642 - 05/04/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

hoboblues said:
A couple things steered me away from acid..

One, was the rumors of bad trips, compared to rumors of bad trips on shrooms.

Two, I think shrooms are suggested to a first time psychedelic user because of the duration of the trip.. if things go wrong, you'll be down in a couple hours or so.




Couple hours' ass! I was in a bad one for almost 8 hours.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: FungusMan]
    #5588821 - 05/04/06 01:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

must've been a heavy dose or some potent shrooms. My peaks usually last a couple hours I'd say.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: hoboblues]
    #5588996 - 05/04/06 02:50 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I agree with the consensus here, acid is more lucid and makes it easier to make contact with reality when need be.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: Zorodius]
    #5589010 - 05/04/06 03:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

acid is more cartoon and bendy for me. My mind tends to 'fold' a lot and tumble.
Shrooms is just like 'WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE? WHAT AM I?'


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: indica]
    #5589220 - 05/04/06 07:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think alot of people do mushrooms first because they are just more readily available.

Also, some people just find the duration of LSD to be way too long for their liking. And, this isnt to say that LSD is less intense than mushrooms, LSD can be, and is very intense, and can be very overwhelming/confusing for the user.

And, thereis also alot of lies/myths/etc about LSD that alot of people belive. Not everyone who uses shrooms/LSD are like people on the shroomery who (usually) take the extra step to do some research into what they are taking and belive the lies they have been told about LSD.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: kaniz]
    #5589225 - 05/04/06 07:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i think acid is much more hardcore because of the duration like kaniz said.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: thenewguy05]
    #5594619 - 05/05/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Acid lasts for a longer duration than shrooms, for me, but Shrooms have always been able to kick my mental ass on higher doses. Acid, to me, is more like a speedy kaleidascope. For Bicycle Day I took three gel tabs at about 8:30 - 9 pm and read a book. I had intense visuals all night long and well into the morning, but my mind stayed clear. Very nice!!!

A high dose of shrooms can send me into mad thought loops of never ending torture. It's still good fun though.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #5594639 - 05/05/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yep, I find the confusion with mushrooms to be far more intense than LSD.

LSD is nice, clear, lucid, not confusing -- if anything, I find many times on LSD, my mind feels at ease / rest / no racing thoughts. If I chose to think / exlore my thoughts / etc, I can, but its never this uncontrollable loop/cycle like with mushrooms.

On LSD, alot of the times I can make my head 100% blank. On mushrooms, dont think I've ever had a 'blank' head on mush, *laugh* head is usually running in loops on crazy tangents and thought loops that can be hard to break out of.

High dose of mushrooms = me laying in bed not really wanting to move
High dose of LSD = me wanting to throw on a backpack and go for an adventure

The trip that both LSD and Mush give are so different that trying to compare one to the other isnt really worth it.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: kaniz]
    #5595004 - 05/05/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i have done shroom heaps of times and had mostly good times one it and done acid a few times. i found at low doses they are both relativly simalar. with higher doses i fine shrooms are alot more of a mind fuck, i also find the body sensations on shrooms alot more stronger and i always feel that those feelings are one of the aspects of tripping that can start a mind fuck. over all i would say acid for me is eaier to control but both have the potention to scramble your thought processes


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #5595057 - 05/05/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

For Bicycle Day I took three gel tabs at about 8:30 - 9 pm and read a book.




How did you stay focused on reading? I have never even thought of reading book on acid, I'm always looking to explore things like the carpet, freshly mowed grass, or the constellations. Reading a book on 'cid sounds like it would be very cool if I could stay focused for 30 minutes to an hour.

Maybe next time...as soon as I find some..............................


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #5596485 - 05/05/06 11:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I just had the most awesome night tonight on 3 blotters that came to me out of nowhere, and later ended up at an awesome bonfire party that also came out of nowhere. I shroom regularly but haven't seen Lucy for about 5 years. Now in comparing the two, like everyone said, cid is similar as far as body high and euphoria, I get a different taste in my mouth, but the trip is so clear and beautiful and omg, I'd take cid over shrooms anytime


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #5596673 - 05/06/06 01:07 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

read a book? I tried that once but the words kept on leaping out of the page...


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5596697 - 05/06/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

reading is definitly an aquired taste, and most likely you will not be able to master it the first time, or maybe even by the third time, but little by little youll get better, and it's well worth it.


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Re: Harder to control during trip: Acid or Shrooms..? [Re: hoboblues]
    #17351209 - 12/07/12 04:44 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Mushrooms are more of a mind fuck for me.


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