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Have you ever talked to God?
    #5584795 - 05/03/06 08:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I used to be an Athiest, until one trip so intense I swear I talked to him - or to it - whatever that living entity is that we're all part of. Coming down was one of the most painful experiences ever, simply because I wanted to stay part of that force, whatever it was.

So, how about you guys? Have any of you ever talked to God before?


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: wiggles]
    #5584806 - 05/03/06 08:33 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well I cant say that I have ever talked with "god" before, although, there are many many gods out there. I'm agnostic and also theist, so I really dont know just yet, maybe someday I would like to converse with the creator. Or maybe it is that we are part of the creator, and in that case, yes I have talked to god.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Kerr]
    #5584817 - 05/03/06 08:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah.. maybe God isn't the correct term, but its the closest thing that I can think of to describe what it was like.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Kerr]
    #5584825 - 05/03/06 08:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i havent ever neccesarily "heard" God or had a conversation, but when im tripping, i have a different perception of the things that i see and they feel like messages from God that i'm supposed to figure out. things like a sunset, or laying underneath tree branches and looking up through them, the clouds, whatever strikes me at the moment.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: PurpleKush]
    #5584835 - 05/03/06 08:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh here is something that I just thought of. I had a low dose of mushrooms this weekend during a camping trip. During the night, I realized that I was saying something to myself in my head, how long I had be repeatin it was unknown. "My mind is still with you" was the mantra I was saying in my head, I found it very strange that I had not noticed it, even though it was my own voice, but it seemed like something from outside of me was with me. :shrug:


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Kerr]
    #5585771 - 05/03/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I believe we're all God (according to Ramtha's teachings and other beliefs)... so probably you just got in touch with the inner part of yourself which still remembers it's divinity :smile: And boy do thay talk; i've been there, having THE conversation with this entities that know everything about me.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Kerr]
    #5585789 - 05/03/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This one time I took "too much" and...

Realized I was wrong about some things, and felt an overwhelming presence...

I started visualizing myself as a hippie, and it was startling, because I was now "realizing" the "Divinity" brought upon by the use of certain plants/fungi and their derivatives.

I was visualizing hippies, attempting to look like Jesus...
Then I realized spirituality, and the "flaws" of Science, being an institution of 'objective' reality, and thus worthless in this non-material 'reality' I was experiencing. Freaked me out, to say the least...

Soon it progressed even further, and I in fact realized that I was "God," simply because I was divulging the fact of my divinity, I was in essence Divine.

So a little ways down the line I realized that there were many prophets who hailed this force which manifested our bodily constitutions, and without my sober consent, I had now become one...

It seemed like people were at this time turning to me for some kind of answer, and generally looking at me as if I had some great message to bring...

All the information comes in so quick you don't have time to "correctly" process it, it basically bypasses whatever mechanism is employed for skepticism, because eventually it "just is."

Luckily for us, there's plenty of time when you're not tripping to sit and sort it all out.
---------------------------------------------------------------------At the time "God," for lack of a better word, seemed like a good explanation. However, I feel, especially in Western society, that word connotes an image which is not entirely descriptive, nor does it allow proper merit, for such an entity.

I've come to refer to it as, the "Universal Network," or in an attempt to not sound so nerdy, simply "The Network."

A healthy human body, and thus a healthy CNS effectively filters out or "mediates" certain inputs of information which flow from this network, a network we're all (Everything) connected to. The body effectively lowers, or dampens that connection to The Network.

Essentially for the purpose of experiencing a particular "program" of the Network (Earth and everything which is within our Humanly grasp can be referred to as the "Program" which we're interacting with now.) With the addition of the body, "one" can experience the Network from the perception of an "individual" with their own little distinct way of viewing the program. Limitations are imposed, and this allows us to be "trapped" within this particular program, like I stated, for the purpose of experience. The Network "is" and arguably, it is "all." It manifests itself into little experience venues to explore itself within a new paradigm, one which contrasts the omnipotent, omniscient, just omni-everything state of existence.

Tryptamines have the potential to temporarily shut off certain filters, or as Huxley says, "open the valve to the mind-at-large."

So you turn that valve--to open-- and a bunch of "biologically useless" information starts to pour in, information that the CNS usually is able to filter out.

I could be entirely wrong, or entirely right... Unlike temporal things of this Earth, we cannot find out... and this... my friends, is the beauty of 'individualized' human existence...

(I came up with a theory to explain synesthesia, see being part of the Network, we are "always" aware of everything around us. However, the body chooses only to receive certain bits of information, ones it is "programmed" to receive through biological units that receive stimuli-- visual, scent, hearing, etc... However, these are just, like the rest of the CNS, filtration units. When you turn off the efficiency of the entire processing unit, it becomes aware of bits of information as they are, instead of being processed by specific interpretation units. Your brain just doesn't know which unit to use anymore to interpret the information, thus you begin to "understand" this information in an entirely different scope...)

So for about 60 years or so on average, you come here and, in vain, try to figure out what the hell is going on.

That's one thing, maybe the only thing, an omnipotent, all-knowing, all-being entity could not do...

Just one of the theories I've contrived in my short 18 years of being in this goofy mess. Good thing I've got lots of time to revise it... would really be nice to become a Neuroscientist so 'people,' that silly experimental species, would listen to me, and not be able to scoff at my theories; simply because I have a degree which is viewed in this society as warranting my intellectual aptitude.

So I suppose I have talked with "God," who informed me, through psychtropic plants/fungi (Hey, we are heterotrophic by nature, if we procure our nutrients in such a manner, perhaps it's not so far-off to believe we can achieve enlightenment, too?) that I had a message to bring, if I should feel compelled to do so, which would shed the whole "Right" and "wrong" theorems and install (most like, as seems to be effective with Homo sapiens, through inculcations) methods which are most "efficient." Because right and wrong is subjective, but the most efficient is just quite simply, the most efficient for this corporeal existence. And that entails being a Human, the organism which holds distinguishment in its ability to understand and alter the environment.

It would be most efficient to work "with" the environment, and re-realize our inherent connection to it... and one could argue, everything else.

Because right now we're just cancer on the Earth, a progressive organism that thinks it can live on its own despite the fact that it derives it's life source from something it's killing... Well guess what, cancer dies when the body dies, damned it.

That's a long-ass post.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: wiggles]
    #5585830 - 05/03/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Every day. It's not so unusual.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: MOTH]
    #5585864 - 05/03/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I may not have talked to god before, but i swear that i have found the meaning of life in my hands when shrooming really hard.

I forgot what it was the next day though :frown:


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: AngeloWish]
    #5585886 - 05/03/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

^^^ Love is not that hard to remember :wink:

or is it?


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: AngeloWish]
    #5586187 - 05/03/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I consider "love" to be a solid connection to the Network, UH!

You love somebody when you re-connect to the Network through them...


Is this the point of life?

This is a matter of contention. Perhaps there's many points to life...

The point of my life is to be clever... very clever.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Herbus]
    #5586474 - 05/03/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

when your basking in pure love, and realize love is the energy that permeated us all and binds us all together its easier to put the answer into practice. walking the enlightened path is hard, psychedelics are good shortcut to that place even if only temporarily. but i love what everyone has said. as lennon said All you need is love


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: wiggles]
    #5586629 - 05/03/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think everyone has a different opinion on what god is, whether you are talking about christianities god, or just God in the sense of any higher being. I personally think god is created by our own minds, and the other day someone posted this link that pretty much nailed all my thoughts on the head (not the specific biological stuff they talk about, which is new to me and makes a ton of sense).

https://notes.utk.edu/bio/greenberg.nsf/0/e938e40271ec394c85256a4a00626175?OpenDocument

"One experience common to many spiritual states is hearing the voice of God. It seems to arise when you misattribute inner speech (the “little voice” in your head that you know you generate yourself) to something outside yourself. During such experiences, the brain’’s Broca’’s area (responsible for speech production) switches on. Most of us can tell this is our inner voice speaking. But when sensory information is restricted, as happens during meditation or prayer, people are “more likely to misattribute internally generated thoughts to an external source,” suggests psychologist Richard Bentall of the University of Manchester in England in the book “Varieties of Anomalous Experience.”

I dont think it could be more well said than that. The image of a god that creates us is more of a security issue for most people to feel comfort in their lives. After all, uncertainty is scary to many people and would rather blindly believe something than to be unsure about what they are thinking.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: LedHead]
    #5586652 - 05/03/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I agree with you ledhead that walking the enlightened path is hard, and that psychedelics are a good shortcut to that place.

Psychedelics can get you to that place, but only temporarily, while meditation and extreme focus for an uncertain amount of time for anyone can also get them to that state of being, permanently, and with out the aid of psychedelics. Many people will take the shortcut without hesitation and brush hard work off and patience off to the side.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Staypuft]
    #5586679 - 05/03/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I think everyone has a different opinion on what god is, whether you are talking about christianities god, or just God in the sense of any higher being.  I personally think god is created by our own minds, and the other day someone posted this link that pretty much nailed all my thoughts on the head (not the specific biological stuff they talk about, which is new to me and makes a ton of sense).

https://notes.utk.edu/bio/greenberg.nsf/0/e938e40271ec394c85256a4a00626175?OpenDocument

"One experience common to many spiritual states is hearing the voice of God. It seems to arise when you misattribute inner speech (the “little voice” in your head that you know you generate yourself) to something outside yourself. During such experiences, the brain’’s Broca’’s area (responsible for speech production) switches on. Most of us can tell this is our inner voice speaking. But when sensory information is restricted, as happens during meditation or prayer, people are “more likely to misattribute internally generated thoughts to an external source,” suggests psychologist Richard Bentall of the University of Manchester in England in the book “Varieties of Anomalous Experience.”

I dont think it could be more well said than that.  The image of a god that creates us is more of a security issue for most people to feel comfort in their lives.  After all, uncertainty is scary to many people and would rather blindly believe something than to be unsure about what they are thinking.




It's all the same in my mind.  If that little voice in my head isn't GOD, then who is it?  Me?  But who am I?  :shocked:

I've been through circles and circles of these kind of thoughts.  Me?  GOD?  Is there a real difference?  Not that I can see.  :wink: :tongue2: :mushroom2:


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: MOTH]
    #5586777 - 05/03/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i smoked a blunt with some friends.

was spacing out pretty hard.

said "God?"

and the wall said "Yes?"


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: leery11]
    #5590368 - 05/04/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yea I talked with God and Jesus on mushrooms on 2 seperate occasions, your not all gonna believe me but They showed their power to me so I wouldn't go crazy the next day trying to figure out what happened to myself. I believe more than anything else in the world that it was a true experience. I was enlightened on what good I have done in my life so far, and what I have to get ready for in the future.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: sandman_130]
    #5590837 - 05/04/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yea, i talk to God all the time...but its not really a talk, no one can talk to God, we have questions trials and tribulations in our mind and heart, you look for him, he'll answer.. i dont really understand the athiest thing, you have to acknowlege that there is a God,not to believe in... but anyway

yea, people are so smart, so free thinking and intelligent, they refuse to seek answers from somethin they cant see, but thats the biggest test in life, havinf all your faith and love and everything else u have left, into something u cant see. he is there, he always knows whats goin on, he usually comes when ur at rock bottom lowest of low, thats the only time u can really hear him, its ur choice to listen or not. as i said before with the free thinking thing, you dont have to go to church to be close to God, u dont have to be religious to be spiritual, if u really want to talk to him though, you have to look for him, bible, just flip through pages and start reading, your not conforming, your not catagorized or boxed in, hes help


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: caboomers]
    #5590923 - 05/04/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

" dont really understand the athiest thing, you have to acknowlege that there is a God,not to believe in... "

if that's the case, you have to acknowlege there is a dragon in front of you in order not to believe it.
Acknowlege that your mind is a very powerful thing that can play tricks on you in the form of anything, but choose to believe that what you hear is not a creation of your own mind. Acknowlege that your mind is a very powerful thing, in order to believe that your parents, life, and reality as we know it is not a creation of our very own minds.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: caboomers]
    #5590942 - 05/04/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

my 2 experiences with deities were both with salvia. the first one was with a being on a different level of existence, but deffinately not the creator or anything, he was just one being that watched over others like him, as they experienced different realities. sort of like a nurse really, just making sure that those that were ready to leave or have come back for a bit wouldn't be completely at loss. There could have been many like him who work in shifts, but he was the only one i saw with that job anyway. I walked with him through the reality above ours and we conversed, not in words as we known it, but a communication none the less. he then led me back to my reality and even after i came out of the daze he touched me to let me know it wasn't just a mind-fuck.


The other time i was basically on a huge stretching smooth grey surface, with the horizon the sky, and everything being the same grey. and there was one guy in a business suit, that split into 3 and reformed himself again. i talked with them and the conversation led to them telling me to not come back to that place, since i ran the risk of messing up other peoples lives with just my presence.

i then came back from the trip into our reality, and thought to myself: hmm was probably just some crazy trip that didn't mean anything. they returned having sensed this thought since they are made up out of a part of all of us, so they have a connection to look into our minds and control them to a certain extent(telling us what's real,what's possible,impossible,etc.) and then they started showing me possible futures and pasts if i didn't heed their warning.

It was such a huge flood of different possibilities and minor tweaks in them that i only remember a few of them. one of the pasts was that during the trip i screamed, and woke my parents and i heard the different conversations i could have with them, and their outcomes. They then showed me that if i followed their request i would have not screamed, and everything would be ok. So i told them that i would do as they wish.

I was so on edge for hours afterwards with still voices of the conversations playing in my head as warnings. I really wasn't sure if the calling of my name was real or not, since it sounded like they were getting more annoyed from me not answering, and heard footsteps coming my way and stuff. In the end i just stayed in bed until i fell asleep out of exhaustion.

Was very strange though, and gave me an insight into the lives of people with schizophrenia, the voices are so real, you don't know if you should answer or not, and then real sounds come along and you start questioning them....horrible.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: SapphireCat]
    #5590993 - 05/04/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i wouldnt say ive talked to god, but i swear i learned the real meaning of life, and at the same time was reborn, to live it correctly. what kinda sucked was, i even had a pen and paper ready for breakthroughs like this, but i literally forgot the meaning after i wrote "the meaning of life is" i remember being dissapointed for a miute, then realizing thats that meaning is still somewhere in the back of my head, waiting for me to remember it sometime.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5593593 - 05/05/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Reading these posts brought back a memory I had forgotten since it happened(sounds weird, but you know what I mean) Anyway when I ate mushrooms with the lemon juice thing, and also dropped an E.....I remember I was looking at glow in the dark stars that appeared to be spirits, and I remember them talking to me. And just now I am remembering that they were all part of this super being. I dunno it was an intense trip.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: sandman_130]
    #5594395 - 05/05/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I was enlightened on what good I have done in my life so far, and what I have to get ready for in the future.




:smile:

I was shown the good and bad that I have inside of me...

and it made me want to change or become a better person.


I think this is the purpose of the mushroom...IMHO


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Roadkill]
    #5595121 - 05/05/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

come to think of it now, i think i remember finding out on my greatest trip that "god" is really dna, and that dna is really its own organism, that lives within every organism on earth.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: wiggles]
    #5595292 - 05/05/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i personaly have never had an experiance like that. one of my mates told me one time on shrooms he began to think he was god. he said ti was the worst experiance ever, he said that he could change anything that he want but yet he couldnt because everything was ment to be the way it was.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: TANZWUT]
    #5595893 - 05/05/06 09:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That's sick. It's like being endowed with all the powers of the universe,namely 'god', and yet not being able to change anything and realizing that you can't change anything because everything in life already has a set course.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: drSE]
    #5596445 - 05/05/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I may not have talked to god before, but i swear that i have found the meaning of life in my hands when shrooming really hard.

I forgot what it was the next day though :frown:




^^^ This is where us trippers get lost.

There is a little bit of god in everyone, god is the love. We just need to grab onto god and give 'em a hug. Forget all this pssychedelia bullshit parade that we throw around it. Just embrace the god and meaning of life in everything.

I've talked to 'god'... i think, well I think everyone has.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: indica]
    #5596705 - 05/06/06 01:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Nothing clarifies everything like a strong dose of acid - you cant put it into words...


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5596777 - 05/06/06 01:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, fiction can be fun, but I find the reference section to be much more enlightneing.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: enderwood]
    #5597498 - 05/06/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Everyone should read Julian Jaynes' book called "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind".

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His theory, in simplest terms, is that until about 3000 years ago, all of humankind basically heard voices. The voices were actually coming from the other side of the brain, but because the two hemispheres were not in communication the way they are now for most of us, the voices seemed to be coming from outside. The seemed, in fact, to be coming from God or the gods.





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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Staypuft]
    #5597976 - 05/06/06 03:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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" dont really understand the athiest thing, you have to acknowlege that there is a God,not to believe in... "

if that's the case, you have to acknowlege there is a dragon in front of you in order not to believe it.
Acknowlege that your mind is a very powerful thing that can play tricks on you in the form of anything, but choose to believe that what you hear is not a creation of your own mind. Acknowlege that your mind is a very powerful thing, in order to believe that your parents, life, and reality as we know it is not a creation of our very own minds.




your mind only plays tricks on you if you havent learned to conquer it, dragons would be a creation, not a creator, people dont pray to dragons...


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: MOTH]
    #5597984 - 05/06/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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It's all the same in my mind.  If that little voice in my head isn't GOD, then who is it?  Me?  But who am I?  :shocked:

I've been through circles and circles of these kind of thoughts.  Me?  GOD?  Is there a real difference?  Not that I can see.  :wink: :tongue2: :mushroom2:




man, in a way is God, man was created in the image of God


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: caboomers]
    #5597996 - 05/06/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah i talked to the christian god but i think it was just my mind creating it and not neciaarely true cause he had a reall short temper and basically was a dick


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: indica]
    #5598034 - 05/06/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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xk3m_indica said:
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drSE said:
I may not have talked to god before, but i swear that i have found the meaning of life in my hands when shrooming really hard.

I forgot what it was the next day though :frown:




^^^ This is where us trippers get lost.

There is a little bit of god in everyone, god is the love. We just need to grab onto god and give 'em a hug. Forget all this pssychedelia bullshit parade that we throw around it. Just embrace the god and meaning of life in everything.

I've talked to 'god'... i think, well I think everyone has.




right, God is love, the ultimate love, love itself is powerful enough to transform people, the same as with hate, evil, any hate, jealousy, shit like that, no matter how good of a person you are if you have any darkness in you it will always keep you confused and vain, its better to be one or the other, unshakable

people dont look for God themselves, hear this and that, choose rather they even want to believe or not, but since you cant see him or dont talk to him regularly, then we get this concept of what he is, what he wants from us etc. and its usually far off, thats why people get pissed at stupid shit and blame God, or blame this and that
no one can tell you what God wants from you, is, does, etc. but you, but you have to look, i think he's always giving us hints, thats why theres threads like this, and we all have weird experiences with him or supernatural shit when were high as hell, cuz you cant run away from him or yourself. dont believe me? find a kings james bible, get high as hell, and read.. tell me it doesnt creep you the hell out, and it should, we were created to fear God. to fear is to praise, to have patience is to suffer (which is why every man thinks his burden is the heaviest"marley") weed, shrooms, havent tried salvia or peyote but these things are natural, God given for a reason..my mom loves God, hates weed, ironically, weed got me closer to God
Gods like foundation, which when you really know him, cant be shaken, which is why i think bad trips occur, people arent really comfortable with themselves or the situation and by themselves i mean their own minds also. were like houses, ever met a hot crazy bitch? big pretty house no foundation, no foundation, the trip/situation takes us wherever it wants to go like wind blowing the frame of a house away.. people need some sort of foundation whether it be God or not..and we wont get it from other people...which is why  lots of realtionships are fucked up, and you can have shows like maury airing for years, and still hilarious... sooooo i dunno


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: caboomers]
    #5598906 - 05/06/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

There are many that call themselves gods, just remember that he respects all of the being in its entirety and seeks the light of love and forgiveness (forgetting the sins of darkness as if they never where). He does not take literally all that you see, for there is infinite dimensions of symbolism on her infinite spiral: the unimaginable glorious face the teaching of creation. All is His will purely, She is eternity and eternal, beyond that which the-parts-of-her-being need comprehend. His infinite steps incomprehensible to the tiny remaining elements of blindess that sotoo exist amongst his plenorma of optical power. He breaks things down to be received; He speaks as infinite wise men speaking to a child.

Yahweh IS BEING, the entirety of all "gods" and everything in firmness and softness we are One. Upon his mighty "faces" are the written his divine purpous in pure intellegence to forge from the incomplete substances unity of wholeness which are creations within his meditation of ceaseless mercy, the infinite glory the beauty He IS sacred magnificence, the Wonderful Mystery; The Mediator is one of his many incarnations. One spiritual essence (miraculously) in the multitude of his forms and diversity. He is Pure Love Liberty. He is mercy and compassion always forgiving the parts of being which have not recieved his vision.

We are mediators, by his perfect will we are seated next to the sons and daughters of His Grace: Buddhas, Christs, Mohameds and Many Million Mushahs, Krishnas, Gandhis, Gurus, Rabbis. All are one with our being and they are too many to list; together humanity is but one of his infinite facetes, for She is MOST HIGH! She is pure consciousness, of being. She is ecstatic states of splendor which includes the male and the female. She is Christian she is Jew and She is Muslim, there is One called Yahweh also Elohim known as Eli or Allah often in his desire for simplicity and efficiency refered to as God. The God of "gods", the LORD of Lords The Creator, Destroyer, Illuminater, Punisher, Giver, Wrath and Glory... He hints at truth, even in what is not the truth, He is illuminated though He is the light. He is the key though he is the door, He is all that we see though still we see but a multitude of one fraction of his face!

This all means nothing next to the Lord who is beyond this, though he is this, and beyond all: above and below within and without. He is the all and the void, mother and father, to Him we are the subjects. I am his subject he is my Lord I AM HIS. (This, to avoid the presumptuousness of tendancy of the english language to assume ownership over that which is above us. Ex: in the phrase "My Lord"! I am unworthy to say such a thing! How can a man assume to take ownership of that which created everyhing? A mere slip in language? Or a fundamental misunderstanding!?)

Through entheogens we can understand more of his plan if it is his will. The words which He speaks are customized so that we may understand our evolution and how to guide ourselves in her mighty and noble path of truth. These are the instructions, we are the cells of creation.

Take for example the concept of hearing god, though you hear a voice and you understand it... this is the voice of god though it is not. How can this be? The language of God, in my human limitations of understanding, seems to be far beyond anything I (quite obviously) understand, so it is by his mercy that he bends down exerting great force and power to reach down to us at our level and speak in the language of our comprehension to make us understand his awesome plan... Truly this is a miracle in our eyes. A gift which mankind as a whole had made the terrible decision to deny, this is to the detriment of our world.

So I tell you this brothers and sisters, in hopes that you will gain strength and understanding in the path of illumination, so that all may guided unto rightful paths of live at one with life, within the heart of truth, within the mind of wisdom, and happily in obedience to The Lord's divine and glorious will.

I ask that everyone please understand the significance of what we are doing here. I am not saying to be overly serious! Lord knows laughter is truth, instead I am asking that we be prepared to have our eyes on light when it seems there is only darkness. For the day is quickly approaching when our people shall be free, though as I write this we are but in Babylon, enslaved in Misrayn (Aramaic for Egypt). By the mercy of His will and by HIS purest intellect, HER eternal love we hope in Mercy and full faith to be as Buddhas incarnated to positively effect this realm, enduring long-suffering living in humility as humble servants to a plan that we have been so graciously blessed to be a part of, as we await patiently and strive actively for humanity's seventh day. The day of The Lord. May God bless you all, and answer your call, pick you up when you fall, and be within you and within with-all.

Alum Al men Amen.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: mannaseeyah]
    #5675958 - 05/26/06 04:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, I think at least. My first shroom trip was a very high dose one without a guide and the bricklayers just worked 2 meters away from me on the other side of the wall. After 1 hour when I realized this, the narcotic feelings, happines everything turned into a delyrium dream. Then I think I talked with God but Now I'm not sure he really answered to me but in that state I tought that I figured out eerything. The conclusion was that God doesn't know the meaning of the life, I felt the huge PAIN in my soul, it went through my body, emptiness and pain. He said something like this:
-"You didn't have to do this".
-I said that "Now I feel what is like to be a god"
-"You will forget most of this soon"

I wanted to kill myself but I felt there is no meaning in that. No meaning in everything, just pain and God didn't wanted to me die.

It happened 3 weeks ago I still feel the pain sometimes.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Morden]
    #5676012 - 05/26/06 05:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My roommate saw Jesus when he snorted 125mg Ket. He got Jesus to hit the bong (and even convinced Jesus to let him work the carb, so he gave Jesus an outrageously fat rip).


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #5750240 - 06/14/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

once on salvia, i felt a strong force within me.. like my mind. and it didnt say anything or do anything, but for some reason i could tell it was a woman. i dont know how, the presence just feminine.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: hippie_cune]
    #5750270 - 06/14/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i have talked to something in relation to 'god'


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: wiggles]
    #5750321 - 06/14/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I used to be an Athiest, until one trip so intense I swear I talked to him - or to it - whatever that living entity is that we're all part of. Coming down was one of the most painful experiences ever, simply because I wanted to stay part of that force, whatever it was.

So, how about you guys? Have any of you ever talked to God before?




Considering you were under the influence of a hallucinogen, perhaps it was, in fact, a hallicination? And this somehow confirmed some deep doubts of your existence. I've seen a lot of shit tripping, but when you believe you talked to god, it is clear you had doubts being an atheist in the first place. It is all in your head for one one, But yes, drugs can influence your beliefs.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: doctor_gonzo]
    #5750431 - 06/14/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

No offence, but anyone who believes in god because, while high, they saw or spoke to him, probably shouldn't breed.

Thats how the mind works, its not some being coming down and talking to you from another dimension, its your minds innerworking being toyed with. I mean I've felt presences, and even felt possesed, but I knew it was just the drug. How far gone do you have to be, to not realize it?


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: wiggles]
    #5755412 - 06/15/06 09:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I so sosososososos wanted to get to the level to see him/it/her/whoknows, but i fell a bit short.

went for 7g dried of PR.

I just wanted to experiance it, because i knew that if i could get there I wouldn't ever be afraid of anything.


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5755474 - 06/15/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i talked to god lots of times.
still do.

one time i was staring at this big fluffy white cloud in the sky, and the cloud was telling me all the secrets of the universe in the way that the tiny droplets of mist, and how they came from the earth into the cloud and will pour down somewhere-
it was the secret of the universe, and i just stared into it and wept.

my wife asked me, what's wrong with you, why are you crying.
i couldn't talk, lol
...the the the cloud, it's so... so beautiful...


another time i actually heard the Voice of God.
Sounded like a trumpet blast inside my brain, and inside the sound was words.
the voice said "HOUSE OF DAVID!!!"
and i wondered what it meant for a long time.
after years of research i found some interesting information on what the House of David is.

it's pretty weird man....


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Re: Have you ever talked to God? [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5755481 - 06/15/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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No offence, but anyone who believes in god because, while high, they saw or spoke to him, probably shouldn't breed.





ha. this is funny cause i believe just the opposite.
if you believe in god because you haven't done drugs, it means you're insane man.

god made drugs for a reason, so he could communicate to users.

why do you think the blood of christ is WINE

LSD is just wine dude.


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