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How to pass a drug test
#5583642 - 05/02/06 10:18 PM (18 years, 21 days ago) |
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Not sure if this is the right forum, it can be moved if necessary. I put it in here because it would get the most exposureAlso, it can be stickied for reference if needed.
I come on here a lot and see people asking about drug tests, and how to pass them.
First heres a little background on my story. After a non-drug related incident landed me with a drug test, I admitted I would fail in court during the pretrial, since I had smoked very recently. This turned a small time of non-reporting probation into a year of reporting probation, two drug tests a month, marijuana classes, community service, and huge court costs.
The day I found out about my drug test, I was nervous about not being able to urinate when I went, So I drank about 6-7 cans of green tea during the day before my test. I had smoked a little bit 2 weeks before my test. Somehow, I ended up passing. This sparked an interest in me. If i'm able to accidentally pass, think of what I could do if I actually put effort into it!
A few weeks later, I continued smoking. I found out I had about a month until my sentencing. Then I discovered my sentencing had been rescheduled, in 5 days! I had smoked a blunt or two of chronic every day for the past few weeks, and knew I was pissing very very dirty. Erowid reports that a single use can stay in the system from 48-72 hours, and habitual use (my style) can stay in up to 12 WEEKS!
By the way, I have a very slow metabolism, meaning that it takes a very long time for the metabolites to leave my system.
Gaining information from other websites, I put together a concrete plan to pass my test. Here it is. You can adjust it however you please.
48 hours before the test, if possible, I take a creatine supplement (available at any health store) I take two doses 48 hours before, and 2 doses 24 hours before. 8 Hours to test: Take four aspirin 4 Hours to test: Take four aspirin, drink two-three tall glasses of water Then, drink one-two tall glasses of water every 15 minutes, up until the test. Im not talking about a GIANT glass, just a normal pretty big glass. Urinate as frequently as needed. 2 hours before test, take 4-5 vitamin B2 complex 1 hour before the test, take 4 rolaids (any flavor will do)
Thats it, now ill explain each step.
Creatine supplement- Many labs will test for the creatine levels in your urine as part of a specimen validity check, basically a check to see if its been diluted or not. I started using this, but more recently I haven?t, as Ive found out my probation department does not test the creatine levels. If you don?t know whether or not the levels will be tested, its better to be safe and just take creatine.
Aspirin- On a very common type of test, the EMIT test, aspirin causes a false negative. The EMIT test is one of the more common types. At my probation place, the EMIT test is the intial test, and if its positive, its sent in for a more advanced test, called GC/MS. You can see the science of this here. Here. It has lots of science type language, but basically Salyclic acid, which is what aspirin turns into in your system, sort of tricks the drug test into thinking there are much less, or no drugs in your urine. Be careful though, as this much aspirin can cause stomach aches, so make sure to eat something with each dose.
Water- I begin with a few glasses to kick-start the process. You will want to urinate at least 3-4 times before your drug test to make sure you are clean. The water is pretty much the main ingredient in this process. It makes it so your urine is made up of nearly all water, instead of bodily wastes. The aspirin checks this back, by masking any small amounts of THC metabolites that may have found their way into your urine.
Vitamin B2 complex- The primary validity check of urine at my testing site is color. As you begin to urinate from all this water, you will start to notice that your urine is perfectly clear. This will usually tip off the drug testing employees, who usually will ask you to retest. Taking a large dose of the Vitamin B2 complex 2 hours before you have to go for the test will turn your pee a bright, almost radioactive yellow. It works extremely well at masking the color. Sometimes I would accidentally take the vitamins to late, so the first time I go, it is completely clear. They make me retest in one hour, which works out perfectly. Id already have to go pee again in an hour from all the water, and by then the vitamins will have kicked in.
Rolaids- Another possible validity test is the specific gravity. Here they compare the specific gravity to that of water, and if its too close it is untestable. Rolaids add salts to your urine, increasing the specific gravity. Another option would be to substitute the water with slightly salty water, or even Gatorade. Once again, I?m not even sure if my place tests this, but some do, and at this point id rather be safe then sorry.
Magic detox drinks Lots of people will tell you that they live by magic detox drinks. These are drinks that can be bought at headshops, liquor stores, or online, which claim to get you to pass a drug test, or your money back. The truth is, they are a complete waste of money. I trust my method more then any magic detox drink, and not only that, $10 will buy you all the supplies for a few YEARS of testing, while $40-$120 will buy you a detox drink for one test. These drinks ussually have vitamin B, creatine, and water (sound familiar??) and almost always involve drinking lots of extra water. Additionally, the money back guarantees dont always work, as the company will claim that you must have done something wrong.
Putting it to the test My method was truly put to the test last week. I made probably the stupidest decision in my life, and decided to smoke it up the week of 4/20 while on probation. A failed test would mean I wouldn't go to college, I wouldn't get a high paying summer job over the summer, and would spend 90 days in jail. Don't ask me why I decided to smoke, I dont know what the hell I was thinking, but whats done is done.
Starting on the saturday before 4/20, I smoked about one joint of chronic everyday. Then early morning 4/20 (midnight-5am) I smoked 2 joints of chronic, a king size joint of chronic/kief mixture, 2 bubbler bowls of chronic/kief mixture, and a fat bowl of the mix. I woke up the next day, and discovered I would be tested the next morning. I had all that THC in me, plus leftover amounts from 2-3 weeks ago.
In the end, I passed the test next morning. Because of these circumstances, I upped the water to about a glass every 10 minutes. Sitting in the parking lot before the test, I was praying to pass my test. I promised myself that I would quit until I was off probation if I could just pass this one test. And I passed. I also passed another one (11 days after 4/20) today.
Warning Although I feel this method can be used to pass any test, I have to admit it is a BITCH doing it. My tests are ussually at 7am, meaning I need to wake up very very early to start the process, leaving me drained all day. Also, without food, the aspirin will give you stomach aches. The last two times I tested, I ended up throwing up from the water. I wasnt DEATHLY ill, but I just felt uncomfortable for a few minutes, culminating in puking up water. It sucked, but its obviously better than jail.
Conclusion Although I dont recommend smoking on probation, I do believe this system can work for pretty much everything. I had a LOT to lose, and I trusted it and it worked. I wouldn't guarantee it 100% everytime, but I'd trust it more then any magic potion drink. I would rather die then fail a test. If you put the effort into this method, it will work every time.
Other Options If your test isnt going to be observed, then substitution is the way to go. Do some research on the net, as there are many methods using things ranging from condoms to travel shampoo bottles to get a clean friends urine to the right temperature, and into the cup. Also synthetic urine is an option, many people swear by products such as Quick Fix 4.0.
I wouldn't reccomend adding things to the urine. I've heard kids mention visine, or bleach. These are no where near fool proof. They may decrease the amount, but not eliminate it. They will also completely throw off numbers such as pH, if its tested for.
Any questions? Just ask! I'm trying to help the community deal with a problem that many of us have and will continue to face in our lifetimes.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5583695 - 05/02/06 10:28 PM (18 years, 21 days ago) |
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Oh, I forgot a section
Common Myths:
Drinking water for days coming up to the test- This won't do anything, and won't decrease the amount of time it takes for the THC to leave your system, its just a waste of time. Starting 4 hours before the test is fine.
Exercise- It works, but very very slowly. Fat-burning exercise will slowly lose the fat cells that contain THC. But very, very slowly. And beware, when you are exercising, the amount of THC in your urine will be a little higher, since it is leaving your body faster. Although its a pretty miniscule increase, when so much is on the line many people wouldnt want to take the chance. Many people choose to heavily work out up until around 4 days before the test, then abstain.
Dipping in the toilet- I just saw a post about this. This is a very bad move for a few reasons.
1. Many sites will have some sort of chemical, or colored water in the toilet that will immediately spark suspicion. 2. Most cups will have a temperature sticker right on the side to immediately get the temp of the sample. Cold toilet water will throw it WAY below the required temp. 3. The color will be way too clear.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5583721 - 05/02/06 10:31 PM (18 years, 21 days ago) |
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Drinking a shit load of water will actually beat a dip stick test as long as it doesn't go to a lab. It doesn't make the THC metabolites go anywhere but it dilutes your urine so much that they don't show up.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5583745 - 05/02/06 10:35 PM (18 years, 21 days ago) |
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you could just not do drugs
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: pantsboy]
#5583762 - 05/02/06 10:38 PM (18 years, 21 days ago) |
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pantsboy said: you could just not do drugs
Yea, Ive kind of realized that, and would recommend that to anyone on probation.
But many people are caught by surprise, with something for a job possibly, and this could prove useful to them.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5583803 - 05/02/06 10:43 PM (18 years, 21 days ago) |
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I dont get tested for PTI anymore, but I just made my mind up to quit all 'detectable' drugs. Well the ones on the NIDI 5, that is. Well until I am off being tested. When I am off I am only going to smoke it a few days at a time, then go without the rest of the time. I enjoy a cannabis high better when I don't use as often.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5583924 - 05/02/06 10:57 PM (18 years, 21 days ago) |
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Think I'll just till I'm off probation to smoke again.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: KaptKid]
#5585567 - 05/03/06 12:21 PM (18 years, 20 days ago) |
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Man i've been on probation for 5 months was pefectly honest with teh guy when i first showed up. Told him all the drugs I've done even told him I had last done it a few days before. I pay him every month and do my community service, and I havent been tested at all. You must have looked really guilty to get it twice a month. I mean I'm a long haired hippy in Texas man...
Oh yea the best way to pass(I know because of my buddy) is to drink tons of water for a few days and work construction 10 hours a day in 100 degree heat(or any other manual labour). He has been tested a few times and hes always dirty, but has never got a positive. Water, and Sweat. I know you city boys out there were hoping for a magic potion. Sorry guys. Peace
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: blaze2]
#5587841 - 05/03/06 09:12 PM (18 years, 20 days ago) |
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blaze2 said: Man i've been on probation for 5 months was pefectly honest with teh guy when i first showed up. Told him all the drugs I've done even told him I had last done it a few days before. I pay him every month and do my community service, and I havent been tested at all. You must have looked really guilty to get it twice a month. I mean I'm a long haired hippy in Texas man...
Haha I really tried to play my cards right. Im on the debate team at school, so I know how to sound convincing and everything, but this judge absolutely HATES all teenage drug use. I wore nice clothes and everything. I also have long hair, so maybe that hurt.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: pantsboy]
#5588978 - 05/04/06 02:36 AM (18 years, 20 days ago) |
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pantsboy said: you could just not do drugs
Not that I necessarily recommend it, but when I was on probation I used to fool tests as a matter of principle because I felt like they had no right to invade my privacy or tell me what to put into my own body, especially since my offense had nothing to directly do with drugs. Even if I didn't want to, I probably would have smoked weed out of spite.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: monamine]
#5944602 - 08/08/06 03:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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probation sucks, they surprised me with a drug test on 6-6-06, and I wake and baked with a blunt that morning before school. most of the drinks you buy at head shops will dilute your test, depending on the quality of the test, it may test for dilution. my best freind has been taking and passing drug tests for a couple months now, he uses "sure gel" its a jello product that you mix with a gallon of water and drink. he drinks 2 gallons to be safe. also if you take alot of viatamin b3 (niacin) cleans out your system
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: CodyH]
#5955895 - 08/12/06 08:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've been on probation for a year and a half now and have been getting dropped once a week for the past 6 months. There has been times when I've smoked 3 days before a test and passed. Dipstick is easy to beat though. Aspirin + water + vitamins like the man said. I started just smoking once a week after I let myself completely clean out, you can easily get away with this if you smoke the day you dropped after you get out. A single session is eliminated from your body quiet fast, and you can get pretty blazed of a much smaller amount since you aren't smoking as much (at least for me). Also drink some beers as many days as you can before your test, the alcohol helps leach some of the THC out of your fat. Since I don't feel like risking a good amount of time of my life anymore, I just decided to stop smoking. Although I think I would probably go ballistic if I did get sent to work camp for smoking a goddamn naturally occurring plant.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#6357887 - 12/11/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know this is old but of all the beat a drug test posts and all the peolpe asking about drug tests i think this thread will be of use to at least a few people.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: StroFun]
#6358871 - 12/11/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ummm, way to copy something off another website and not give the author any credit, you got all that info from one source. You may have searched a while, but you didn't gather all that information yourself, you stole it. Not cool. Give the guy you stole it from some credit. I believe part of his name is N2, he's a regular in a cannabis forum somewhere. I can't remember at the moment, since I smoked some cannabis.
Edit: After a little bit of searching I found the forum this was taken from. It's good advice, I can vouch for it, so can many members in that forum, but N2pot deserves credit for all the research. Heres the LINK .
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Thank you for the link, i don't have the balls to try it but i just might use it later on in life.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#6377794 - 12/16/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I passed a test by adding a few drops of bleach to the sample. I smoked the very same morning.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Catalysis]
#6405920 - 12/28/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Catalysis said: I passed a test by adding a few drops of bleach to the sample. I smoked the very same morning.
Really because my friend tried that and he said it didn't work. Otherwise, I've heard of much success when using the wizzinator.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#7013906 - 06/05/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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damn im gonna need this, i just had a few days off from work after getting in an argument with the assistant manager and i realised i hate my job and when they called me to ask why i was late i just told them i quit, ive applied at 10 differnt places and most of them drug test im just gonna drink crap loads of water and take some vitamins
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: kintos]
#7067250 - 06/19/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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had smoked a little bit 2 weeks before my test.
Ok, I stopped reading the thread right here. You didn't accidently pass the test because you drank a bunch of green tea. You passed because you were clean.
Everyone thinks it takes a month to get clean, if you are thin and have a quick metabolism; even if you smoke dank all day everyday; you can pass a dipstick test within 10-12 days of not smoking. Only slightly longer for a lab test. I have quit smoking for DT's plenty of times, I always test myself first. When I test myself I do it with the FIRST piss in the morning without drinking any water so I know I will be clean. And I usually pass after 12 days never more than 16 no matter how much good weed I have been smoking before that.
Now if you only smoke every few days and just for one session, you should be able to pass within a week, especially if you dilute your urine.
Drinking a LOT of water right before a a DT will lower your metabolite levels by diluting your piss. But it will almost NEVER work for a chronic smoker who hasn't taken a break.
BUT if your results are going to a LAB then DO NOT TRY TO DILUTE YOUR PISS they test for that.
There is no miracle way to pass a piss test, drinks don't work, additives don't work(and there is a really good chance you are going to get in MORE trouble for doctoring your urine). Just QUIT SMOKING YOU ADDICTS.
Drinking a lot of fluids will help bring your levels down allowing your to pass sooner and is always a good idea, but the only way to pass a drug test when your piss is dirty is use someone elses piss, but again that is very risky, they might watch you, temps might drop too much, might get piss on you, or the piss might not be as clean as you think. again JUST QUIT SMOKING YOU ADDICTS
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Rasulaz]
#7070131 - 06/20/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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> BUT if your results are going to a LAB then DO NOT TRY TO DILUTE YOUR PISS they test for that.
It doesn't really matter. Drinking a lot of water is not a crime.
Some places will make you retake it, others will count diluted samples as a pass. Either way it's a lot better than failing.
If they say anything just tell them that drinking a lot of water is good for the kidneys and you always try to get at least the recommended 8 glasses a day.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#7083459 - 06/23/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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fastfred said: > BUT if your results are going to a LAB then DO NOT TRY TO DILUTE YOUR PISS they test for that.
It doesn't really matter. Drinking a lot of water is not a crime.
Some places will make you retake it, others will count diluted samples as a pass. Either way it's a lot better than failing.
If they say anything just tell them that drinking a lot of water is good for the kidneys and you always try to get at least the recommended 8 glasses a day.
i hope you ll reply to this...
you say don t dilute on a lab test, now do u mean dilute but cover it with the aspirin and rolaids/salts/gatorade method that is alluded to earlier in this post because a close foaf has a test every fucking couple days for the next year and quitting is really unacceptable... i think that if u exercise, drink the water, take the vitamins, eat the aspirin, and take some creatine you should be home-free because you have covered all the bases of the test and there wouldn t be a way to say for sure that you were diluting?
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#7083823 - 06/23/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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risking jail time to smoke pot on probation or parole is just plain stupid.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: wilshire]
#7084322 - 06/23/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Buy and use spice gold.You will never test dirty again.And yes it does work as well as weed.Another plus is its legal.The effects mimic it perfectly.If you are on parole or probation you need to try this.The ass you save may be your own!
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> Buy and use spice gold.You will never test dirty again.
Why not just go cut your lawn and smoke the grass clippings. That won't make you fail your test, it's a lot cheaper, and it's probably a lot better smoke than SG.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#7084862 - 06/23/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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fastfred said: > Buy and use spice gold.You will never test dirty again.
Why not just go cut your lawn and smoke the grass clippings. That won't make you fail your test, it's a lot cheaper, and it's probably a lot better smoke than SG.
Hey fastfred,you might want to try it before you talk all that noise.Anyone who has tried it will tell you the same.Grass clippings won't get you high.This will.If you can't get effects from spice then you are dead or so burned out that NOTHING will get you high.Do some research.
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fastfred said: > Buy and use spice gold.You will never test dirty again.
Why not just go cut your lawn and smoke the grass clippings. That won't make you fail your test, it's a lot cheaper, and it's probably a lot better smoke than SG.
Hey fastfred,you might want to try it before you talk all that noise.Anyone who has tried it will tell you the same.Grass clippings won't get you high.This will.If you can't get effects from spice then you are dead or so burned out that NOTHING will get you high.Do some research.
nice fred, but i asked u a question earlier... i m glad you re here weighing in though...
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you say don t dilute on a lab test, now do u mean dilute but cover it with the aspirin and rolaids/salts/gatorade method that is alluded to earlier in this post because a close foaf has a test every fucking couple days for the next year and quitting is really unacceptable... i think that if u exercise, drink the water, take the vitamins, eat the aspirin, and take some creatine you should be home-free because you have covered all the bases of the test and there wouldn t be a way to say for sure that you were diluting?
I mean don't dilute because they test for creatinine levels, I was mainly thinking if you thought you were going to pass anyways, but as fastfred said there are limited reprocussions for dilution.
If you drink a lot of water before a lab test, it will show diluted no matter what you do, because they test for creatinine levels.
For a strip test peoples "solution" for diluting your piss is to take large amounts of Vitamin B, it will make your piss yellow. It only helps fool a person looking at your piss.
Creatine won't do shit, creatinine is a metabolite of creatine BUT creatinine is another thing that isn't water soluable and builds up in your urine over time, if you dilute and they send to a lab they will notice this no matter what you do.
Your foaf HAS to quit smoking, or else hes gonna get fucked. Excercising will clean out your body quicker, if you aren't smoking, and have time before the test, if you excercise within say a week of the test you are just going to release MORE THC metabolites into your bloodstream and then into your urine.
Trust me, NOTHING works if you want to keep smoking, there are ways to LOWER your metabolite levels, which MIGHT lower them into a passing range, but let me remind everyone, the "passing levels" on a lab test are EXTREMELY low. That being said "the only solution to polution is dilution" no piils or drink or anyhing is going to mask or hide or cleanse THC metabolites. Drinking lots of water will LOWER you metabolite levels but this only helps in conjuction with NOT SMOKING, and pretty much only on strip tests.
DO NOT LISTEN TO ANY TRICKS TO BEATING A DRUG TEST IT ISN'T WORTH IT
Edit: there are plenty of drugs you can have fun with that don't stay in your system very long
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Rasulaz]
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> the "passing levels" on a lab test are EXTREMELY low.
They really aren't that bad. The relationship between normal levels and passing levels leaves plenty of room for passing.
For example they usually use 50 ng/ml as the cutoff for THC metabolite. A weed smoker should have levels anywhere from about 60-200 ng/ml. If you're an average smoker with a level around 100 then all you really have to do is double the volume of your sample to pass. You can drink a lot of water, or just straight cut the sample with water.
When they test the sample for dilution they check either the specific gravity or creatinine levels or both. SG testing doesn't cost anything so that's usually what they use.
The SG is pretty variable so the sample has to be pretty diluted to fail.
Anyways, it's illegal to get fired for a diluted sample. So when you take that "pre-employment" drug test and it comes back diluted after you've already been working for a week they can't fire you. You can keep giving them diluted samples and it will just keep coming back as inclusive, test not performed, or sample too dilute.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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"Straight cut the sample with water" Don't most places die the water in the toilet blue, and have someone of the same sex in the bathroom with you.
I'm lucky, I ever have to go thou this BS.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Brainiac]
#7090581 - 06/25/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Some places dye the toilet water blue, some turn off the water, some listen outside the bathroom for water running, etc..
The fact that they take precautions is a good sign that they're using the cheapest test possible and that a straight water sample would probably pass.
Unless you're on probation I've never heard of anyone watching you actually pee.
Anyway, I just made the point because once I had to take a test I'd forgotten about, so I just cut my sample by 4X with water and I passed.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#7090601 - 06/25/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do your research on how THC is found in your system and you'll realize that all you have to do is drink water 30 mins before your test. Forget all that supplement taking shit etc etc.
I mean if you wanna feel really really safe then go for it. But it's completely uneccessary since piss tests are a joke to get by.
One good piss long piss to clean out your bladder, then keep drinking and pissing to keep it clean without diluting it over hours and the THC doesn't have time to build up. If they ask about it being diluted, do what i do - I don't drink carbonated drinks or any of that nasty sugar shit, beer and water, amen.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#7092436 - 06/25/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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fastfred said: The fact that they take precautions is a good sign that they're using the cheapest test possible and that a straight water sample would probably pass.
that gives me hope because they do watch but...
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fastfred said: Unless you're on probation I've never heard of anyone watching you actually pee.
si senor foaf is on probation... will probably be doing some good thinking in the downtown lock up this week for dillusion...
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i'm with blaze2 on this one. sweating and drinking lots of water is the way to go. i smoke almost every day, and had to pass a drug test about a year ago. i ran 10 miles wearing sweatpants and a sweatshirt in 80 degree weather just to make sure i would sweat enough, and took my piss test the next day. i passed.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: forawhile]
#7102261 - 06/28/07 05:35 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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by diluting ur piss it looks white and ur creatinine levels drop, if it looks white they might get suspicious and check ur creatinine levels
one way to boost creatinine levels is to each LOTS of red meat, steak etc. and to make your urine yellow take some multivitamin tablets from the day before the test and the day on the test, because ur first piss after taking the tablet will still be white
also when u piss the start of the piss and the end would contain the most THC in it, so piss into the bowl first and stop and use the middle part of ur stream for the sample
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: frank84]
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oh and although bleach does work, it does alter the pH level, so it depends on how well they test ur urine, if they dont check pH then ur fine, but u dont know how they will test it
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: frank84]
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here is how i passed mine i got my friend to piss in zip lock bags which i carried in hidden pockets on the inside of my cargo pants (very baggy so it wasn't noticeable) and i used that as the sample
one thing is they may also check for temperature and it has to be at ur body temp, so what i had done was sticky taped hand warmers to the zip lock bag on the outside hand warmers are little sachets u can get from camping shops for a few dollars, u shake them and meant to put them in your glove and they warm up in seconds and last for a couple of hours
also i brought a digital body thermometer that is water proof to see how hot the urine was in the cup as i had been warming it, for me it was about 3 degrees hotter than body temp so i held the cup in the toilet water (from the rim so my hand didn't touch the water) for a few minutes until it cooled to exactly body temperature
then i gave the sample and passed, in the end i dont think she even checked for temperature, but i heard some do
sneaking a friends sample at body temperature is the best and surest way to pass a piss test
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: frank84]
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sweating doesn't help with passing the test
what happens is THC from marijuana gets absorbed by ur fat, the more u excersise and get ur metabolism up the more THC is released from ur fat into ur blood so infact it will increase the THC levels in ur urine... but it is good if ur test is weeks away because thats the fastest way to get the THC out of your fat then on the week before the test start eating heavy and pile on the fat, then u add a new layer of fat to cover the old layer with THC in it, and the new layer wont release THC into ur urine
ofcourse to do all this u need to stop smoking in the process for a month before the test at least
i think its about a month for a heavy smoker, and can be 2 weeks for a light smoker, if ur skinny with a high metabolism u probably get rid of the THC in ur fat quicker
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: frank84]
#7102274 - 06/28/07 05:48 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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all my posts are directing at passing a piss test for a marijuana smoker
if ur on meth/extacy/speed or hard party drugs i think it only takes 3 days for it to leave ur system
marijuana is the biggest problem, i dont know much about drug tests and other drugs, i dont think they really check for other drugs
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: frank84]
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How do vegetarians expect to even pass a drug test when it's tested for creatine levels (even if we don't use drugs at all)? Last time I checked, creatine comes from red meat... something us veggies don't eat.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#7173741 - 07/14/07 03:24 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Vegetarians can eat fish, which is high in creatine. Otherwise vegetarians are often in such poor health that they can't pass many types of medical tests.
The best advice for any vegetarian is to take supplements. Most vegetarian diets should be supplemented anyway if you care much about your health.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#7195654 - 07/19/07 12:04 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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for what its worth, aspirin does work on EMIT, reducing apparent cocaine at least, .according to this link http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/abstract/40/8/1512
Anyone know wtf nadh has to do with the test though? the abstract wasn't clear.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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fastfred said: Vegetarians can eat fish, which is high in creatine. Otherwise vegetarians are often in such poor health that they can't pass many types of medical tests.
The best advice for any vegetarian is to take supplements. Most vegetarian diets should be supplemented anyway if you care much about your health.
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What's up FF? I always love your posts, but this one I have to say disturbed me a little. I've been vegetarian since 2000, don't eat fish either, basically nothing that had a face on it...and my reasons are many, but this is not the time or place. Anyway, I go to my physician and get my blood work pulled every 6 months or so, and I (90%) of the time am right where I should be nutrient wise, no B12 problems, no protein issues - I just make a point to know what I'm eating (yes, I'm a food-label reader!). I don't take supplements, but I have started making those "Alive!" Whole Foods shakes recently, so that may be considered like a supplement, even though it is only from food sources. Anyway just needed to chime in here that my personal experience has been different.
Also I took a nutrition course in college many years back - changed my life.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#7201358 - 07/20/07 06:28 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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JD, I'm not trying to diss your choices. Most of the health problems from being vegan stem from the poor availability of good vegetarian food. As a society we haven't made a decent effort at making healthy food commonplace, let alone healthy vegetarian food.
Man evolved on a high protein, high fat, high iron diet. We've only had agriculture for the last 10,000 or so years of our 2,500,000 years on this planet. That is to say that we've had agriculture for only 0.4% of our evolutionary history.
Switching from the diet which you are evolutionary suited to requires a lot of planning and care. You need to spend a lot more time on diet issues if you want to remain healthy. Most people simply don't put that much time or thought into their diet, and that causes a lot of problems. People who casually switch to vegetarianism without a good understanding of nutrition WILL get sick most of the time.
A good case is vitamin B12. B12 is not found in vegetable sources. There is no vegetarian source for it. You have to take supplements of B12 to survive on a vegetarian diet for more than a few years.
A vegetarian thrown into the wild or back in time a thousand years simply could not survive.
B12 is just one example, there are other nutrients that require careful diet or supplementation to maintain proper levels.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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fastfred said: JD, I'm not trying to diss your choices. Most of the health problems from being vegan stem from the poor availability of good vegetarian food. As a society we haven't made a decent effort at making healthy food commonplace, let alone healthy vegetarian food.
Man evolved on a high protein, high fat, high iron diet. We've only had agriculture for the last 10,000 or so years of our 2,500,000 years on this planet. That is to say that we've had agriculture for only 0.4% of our evolutionary history.
Switching from the diet which you are evolutionary suited to requires a lot of planning and care. You need to spend a lot more time on diet issues if you want to remain healthy. Most people simply don't put that much time or thought into their diet, and that causes a lot of problems. People who casually switch to vegetarianism without a good understanding of nutrition WILL get sick most of the time.
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A good case is vitamin B12. B12 is not found in vegetable sources. There is no vegetarian source for it. You have to take supplements of B12 to survive on a vegetarian diet for more than a few years. -FF
You know I was hearing that when someone told me about the Weston A. Price foundation. I think they are www.westonaprice.org or something like that. They've got a lot of really interesting, yet questionable information there. I looked into that a lot at the time, and from what I was able to find there are B12 sources in nature.
I don't know if this will surprise you, but mushrooms are actually a source, of all species. And I eat mushrooms several times a week. The concentration is not that high, but it is there.
I may have to do some more research to find out about this B12 again, because it's been a while. I'll be happy to post my sources when I find them whether they are favorable to my opinion or not .
Also I just went in for blood work this morning, so I'll have a look at that soon. But I specifically asked about B-12 last time I was in there in February or January, and the doctor said everything was perfect. I will make sure to ask about this again.
Now that I think about it though, aren't breakfast cereals fortified with B vitamins a lot? I'm not super big on cereals, and the ones I eat are ones I view as healthy, but maybe I'm also getting it from there, since I'm not taking any supplements, other than the Alive! and it's all plant sources...
Anyway FF, always happy to have a lively debate with you!
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#7203241 - 07/20/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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> I looked into that a lot at the time, and from what I was able to find there are B12 sources in nature.
http://www.vegsoc.org/info/b12.html
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Vitamin B12 is a member of the vitamin B complex. It contains cobalt, and so is also known as cobalamin. It is exclusively synthesized by bacteria and is found primarily in meat, eggs and dairy products. There has been considerable research into proposed plant sources of vitamin B12. Fermented soya products, seaweeds, and algae such as spirulina have all been suggested as containing significant B12. However, the present consensus is that any B12 present in plant foods is likely to be unavailable to humans and so these foods should not be relied upon as safe sources. Many vegan foods are supplemented with B12. Vitamin B12 is necessary for the synthesis of red blood cells, the maintenance of the nervous system, and growth and development in children. Deficiency can cause anemia. Vitamin B12 neuropathy, involving the degeneration of nerve fibers and irreversible neurological damage, can also occur. [...]
The only reliable unfortified sources of vitamin B12 are meat, dairy products and eggs. There has been considerable research into possible plant food sources of B12. Fermented soya products, seaweeds and algae have all been proposed as possible sources of B12. However, analysis of fermented soya products, including tempeh, miso, shoyu and tamari, found no significant B12. Spirulina, an algae available as a dietary supplement in tablet form, and nori, a seaweed, have both appeared to contain significant amounts of B12 after analysis. However, it is thought that this is due to the presence of compounds structurally similar to B12, known as B12 analogues. These cannot be utilized to satisfy dietary needs. Assay methods used to detect B12 are unable to differentiate between B12 and it's analogues, Analysis of possible B12 sources may give false positive results due to the presence of these analogues.
Researchers have suggested that supposed B12 supplements such as spirulina may in fact increase the risk of B12 deficiency disease, as the B12 analogues can compete with B12 and inhibit metabolism.
The current nutritional consensus is that no plant foods can be relied on as a safe source of vitamin B12.
Bacteria present in the large intestine are able to synthesize B12. In the past, it has been thought that the B12 produced by these colonic bacteria could be absorbed and utilized by humans. However, the bacteria produce B12 too far down the intestine for absorption to occur, B12 not being absorbed through the colon lining.
> I don't know if this will surprise you, but mushrooms are actually a source, of all species.
http://www.animalsuffering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2885 Has a little blurb on it.
I don't know if they've ever done a lot of research on it, but it's likely that insect and fecal contamination provide most of the B12 in mushrooms.
I'm sure that there's some plant source somewhere, it's just not likely that it's in your diet.
> aren't breakfast cereals fortified with B vitamins a lot?
They throw a lot of stuff into processed foods. A quick look on google showed that there are several popular cereals fortified with it.
The body really doesn't need a lot of B12 at all, and the liver can store a couple years worth of it. One problem is with children that have no stores of B12. I think all the soy milk formula is fortified with it now though.
> Anyway FF, always happy to have a lively debate with you!
Likewise.
You may have a lot more company someday. Rushing headlong into a population explosion like we are is sure to cause a food crunch. Meat is incredibly inefficient to produce compared to food crops, so when the crunch hits meat prices will skyrocket. In some poor countries most of the population is already effectively vegetarian because meat costs are so high and it's so much cheaper to buy rice and other grains.
Biofuels will also drive the price of meat up. Supply is not projected to meet demand, so grazing land will be converted to crop land, raising the price of cropland, the price of corn will go up, and a lot of the stover (corn stalks) that cattle eat will be diverted to ethanol production, thus raising the price of feeding cattle.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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All good stuff man, and very interesting too. I wasn't going to go back to Google on this, and let it lie, but damn man! I can't do it....must...debate...validity....arrrghhh!
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Mushrooms cultivated on manure enriched compost will contain vitamin B12. If the mushrooms are not over washed before use they will contain some B12. There is 0.26ug of vitamin B12 in 100g of mushrooms. A serving of 4-6 mushrooms weighs 75g.
from here http://www.vegetarian.org.nz/page/vitamin-b12 (okay it's not the FDA )
Do you think that the manure has B12 in it from the cow's natural bacteria and stomach flora or whatever, and then the mushrooms uptake the vitamin, or is that just not possible? Kinda got me thinking...
Anyway, I shot an e-mail over to Professor Robert Beelman at Penn State, as he's the food science professor at the school with the largest interest in mushroom growing in the US, and always tied in with the mushroom conferences and projects. I'll let you know if he sheds any light on this...
Have a great day FF! Light and Love, JD
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
#7218342 - 07/24/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, now that this thread is totally de-railed, one last thing from me on this subject here (at least I think so).
FastFred you're right and I am wrong.
I got the reply back from Dr. Beelman. Here's what he said;
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I have seen one report indication that mushrooms contain trace levels of Vit B12 (0.6-0.8 micrograms per 100grams, d.w. See Mattila et al., J.Agric. Food Chem, vol 49 (no 5) 2001.
So looks like there's not much there at all. Not even a whole microgram of B-12 in almost four ounces of mushrooms...Oh well.
Be well man 
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
#7220884 - 07/25/07 03:16 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wait...this was about a drug test?
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: paradox_]
#7220919 - 07/25/07 03:48 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah, I failed it
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
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> yeah, I failed it
Bummer. You didn't listen to me did you?
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#8707464 - 07/31/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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So I've got a piss test in about 25 days, I've been clean for 7 days now. But was a heavy smoker (6-9 joints a day) for over 2 and a half years.
Think if I follow what's been mentioned in here already I will pass it? Otherwise I'll be screwed out of a job that pays 10 grand a month =\
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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fastfred said: > yeah, I failed it
Bummer. You didn't listen to me did you?
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: johnm214]
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Anyone?
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Vancouver]
#8712453 - 08/01/08 01:58 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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$10k a month!!!!!!!!! Why even risk it man. I would go here:
http://www.ureasample.com/buy-drug-test-solutions/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=64
I have used it and a friend of mine has used it. Neither of us had any problems with it. It takes some effort to use it right and get it to the right temperature, but $100 to virtually guarantee a $10,000 a month job is great. The only thing to worry about is if they watch you while you piss. most pre-employment screenings wouldnt require it. Although they watched me piss in the cup for a diversion program for Poss of mj.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#8712827 - 08/01/08 03:20 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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My dad worked with this company before and they will be watching me. So I picked up a couple home piss test dipstick things andwill try it out in a week or two and then again before I take the test, maybe to see if I fail I can delay the test a bit longer. *crosses fingers*
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Vancouver]
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I've also got a question about the original method posted, does it have to be aspirin that you take or could it be tylenol or ibuprofen?
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Vancouver]
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Or, you could take this thing called AZO Standard. Generally used to treat yeast infections or kidney stones.. it flushes the kidneys. It makes you piss rustic orange and it does stain, so wear old undies. Comes in a box on the shelf at any supermarket. I prefer Meijer since im in the midwest, but walmart carries it also. I would assume that any pharmacy like walgreens and rite-aid does as well.
Easy way:
Take two mini-tablets every 6 hours for 48 hours. Take with a FULL glass of water. (atleast 16 oz) or drink atleast 16 oz in between each dose. It helps the stuff cling to your kidneys, which removes the THC from the fatty cells.. which makes you drop clean. The next 24 hours the medication will finish it self out.
When you are pissing normal (without the rustic orange) you are ready to drop clean.
Just a note, my buddy took double doses over a 24 hour period and dropped clean the day after that, but he said it burned with a fierceness at the time of the drop. He did pass, but I wouldnt guarantee a success with just two days. Three days and it has worked for me every time.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: emerich]
#8745882 - 08/08/08 07:47 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Say you take it, once you start pissing clean how long is the duration that you can piss clean for? Any idea?
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Vancouver]
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Uggh, I have been clean for approx 28 days now and still failing the take home piss tests. With my test coming up in the next week or so it's not looking so good.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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> A good case is vitamin B12. B12 is not found in vegetable sources. There is no vegetarian source for it. You have to take supplements of B12 to survive on a vegetarian diet for more than a few years.
not true, actually, the greatest source of B12 to earth is from the suns rays, just like vitamin D we absorb it through our eyes and skin. while the sun isn't a vegetable it certainly isn't an animal either
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Wow! Gravedigging a year old thread to post utter bullshit. You're not off to a good start blue.
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not true, actually, the greatest source of B12 to earth is from the suns rays, just like vitamin D we absorb it through our eyes and skin. while the sun isn't a vegetable it certainly isn't an animal either 
No, the sun will not give you B12.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
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blue.mean.yen said: > A good case is vitamin B12. B12 is not found in vegetable sources. There is no vegetarian source for it. You have to take supplements of B12 to survive on a vegetarian diet for more than a few years.
not true, actually, the greatest source of B12 to earth is from the suns rays, just like vitamin D we absorb it through our eyes and skin. while the sun isn't a vegetable it certainly isn't an animal either 
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not true, actually, the greatest source of B12 to earth is from the suns rays, just like vitamin D we absorb it through our eyes and skin. while the sun isn't a vegetable it certainly isn't an animal either 
No, the sun will not give you B12.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
so wiki knows everything now huh!?
actually you should look up a NASA experiment in semi-recent history. a man claimed to be some sort of prophet after discovering an old school of thought that one could survive on water and solar energy. he claimed to have mastered the talent and was touring and gaining popularity. so NASA challenged him to spend as much time as he could in a compound of theirs without any sustenance beyond water and a period of time in the morning and at night staring directly into the sun, when it was at it's lowest UV rating in order to protect his eyes. some hundreds of days later NASA conceded.
the man was tested in a variety of ways and it was found that he had B12 levels in the realm of somebody who ate daily steaks, and it's just common knowledge that a human can survive on nothing but H2O and B12. may lose a bit of weight though, as i'm most certain he would have.
i didn't believe this when first told either, but it was proved to me in both a textual and literal sense by one of my more esoterically wise friends.
and yes, essentially this is photo-synthesis for people.
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Wow! You really are gullible.
Some dipshit believes that he can live and gain power by staring directly into the sun, and you believe it?
No, you don't get B12 from the sun, and no you can't live on B12 and water.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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read this threat few days agom, forgor to reply ...
 Very nice threat i favorited it !!
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: dstark]
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Just to update and expound on the old sungazing hoax...
Hira Ratan Manek is an old indian engineer, nutcase, scammer who claimed that NASA had verified that he was getting energy from the sun which allowed him to live 180 days without food. Later he admitted that it was actually water and occasional buttermilk that he drank. When NASA was questioned they denied having any association with him what-so-ever.
So basically the whole thing is a scam by an old nutjob. He has a website and is still trying to take people's money. He's riding the fact that he got a few news outlets to believe a bald-faced lie long enough to print it, even though it's been completely debunked for a long time now.
Google "hira ratan manek hoax" for more info.
...and don't stare directly into the sun.
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You are confusing B-12 with vitamin D (which the sun helps synthesize).
Vegans have trouble with B-12, but I dont believe lacto-ovo-vegetarians have the same problems.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Green_T]
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Hey i had a drug van come into my jobsite the other day, luckily i had known ahead of time by a few days what time it was comming to test all workers.
So i decided to use the OP's instructions on passing. I was nervouse cause the test was on tuesday morning and i had just smoked nd sniffed alot of oc that weekend b4.
But to my suprise i passed everything! It was the dipstick extended test that tested for all popular drugs. These are the abbreviations i suppose for the drug.
Coc, THC, PCP, AMP, OPI, BZO,BAR,MTD, PPX, METHQ
For each catagory there was a bar and if you were clean 3 lines came up, for each line that faded away meant u were dirty for that, thc came up wit 2 lines barely lol
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#10961080 - 08/29/09 12:34 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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How to pass a drug test? Drink lots and lots of water it always worked for me just drink until your about to throw up
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: ennos]
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ennos said: How to pass a drug test? Drink lots and lots of water it always worked for me just drink until your about to throw up
Dont forget to get some electrolyte in you though, as it would suck to die from water intoxication while trying to pass a drug test.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: demon6fire]
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Dont forget to get some electrolyte in you though, as it would suck to die from water intoxication while trying to pass a drug test.
Lack of electrolytes isn't the cause of water intoxication and won't have any effect on it.
Of course, it's not a bad idea though.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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Dont forget to get some electrolyte in you though, as it would suck to die from water intoxication while trying to pass a drug test.
Lack of electrolytes isn't the cause of water intoxication and won't have any effect on it.
Of course, it's not a bad idea though.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication Pretty sure a form of it can be caused by it, but I might be wrong. Whatever the case, you need electrolytes to keep the test from being nulled.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: demon6fire]
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Hyponatremia is electrolyte depletion, sometimes considered the same as water intoxication.
I guess they are considering it the same these days.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: ennos]
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ennos said: How to pass a drug test? Drink lots and lots of water it always worked for me just drink until your about to throw up
And at least for the place I was going, and probably for most law enforcement testers, they won't take that.
If you just chug lots and lots of water, your piss will simply look like water. They aren't idiots and will often make you retest. At the place I went to, you would come back in an hour.
Thats why the vitamin b2 complex is essential. A large dose of that about 90 minutes before the test will have you peeing water, but it will be radioactive yellow.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#11159135 - 09/30/09 06:39 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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And at least for the place I was going, and probably for most law enforcement testers, they won't take that.
If you just chug lots and lots of water, your piss will simply look like water. They aren't idiots and will often make you retest. At the place I went to, you would come back in an hour.
An hour probably isn't enough. Sure it will keep coming up diluted, but there isn't a thing they can do about it. If they want to keep paying to re-test you then let them. Finally they'll give up and be forced to hire you. Denying someone employment because they drink too much water isn't legal.
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Thats why the vitamin b2 complex is essential. A large dose of that about 90 minutes before the test will have you peeing water, but it will be radioactive yellow.
That's not going to save you. They don't reject samples because they are too clear, they reject them becasue they fail one of the tests. If you drink enough water your pee SHOULD be clear. That's why they test for pH, specific gravity, and creatine levels. Vitamins aren't going to make it pass those tests.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#11163246 - 10/01/09 11:16 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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An hour probably isn't enough. Sure it will keep coming up diluted, but there isn't a thing they can do about it. If they want to keep paying to re-test you then let them. Finally they'll give up and be forced to hire you. Denying someone employment because they drink too much water isn't legal.
I'm just saying the place I did it at required an hour, and if it wasn't adequately yellow, you would go in over and over again until you peed to their liking. In my case, it wasn't about getting a job, it was about going to jail, so they were overly strict.
I'm not sure if I mentioned it in my original post, but there are methods to get around specific gravity, pH, and creatine (varying amounts of Tums, creatine, etc.). I used these at first but discovered my specific place didn't test for them.
At the place I tested, which was a private organization contracted out by the district court, they only rejected samples because they were too clear. So in the end, with my method and vitamins, I'd literally be peeing pure water, only it was radioactive yellow. Enough to fool them.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
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At the place I tested, which was a private organization contracted out by the district court, they only rejected samples because they were too clear.
Wow... That certainly isn't legal. If you complied with the court order to submit a sample then you should be set. If they reject the sample with no valid scientific basis then that's their problem.
Yellow or not isn't a valid reason to reject a sample and in fact your pee should be clear. If it's yellow you're either taking way over the RDA of vitamins or not drinking enough water, or both.
Most places DO test for creatine or SG, or they just don't care if the sample's diluted. They would be sued into the ground if someone suffered damages from their rejection of a sample based on non-valid methods.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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Agree with FF. I've been tested at 3 different locations for probation non-sense and I always drank tons of water and nothing else, and always passed even with having heavily smoked a day or two before.
They never complained about it being overly clear either. I actually puked at the probation office from drinking too much water before, and they didn't care nor make me piss again. They did watch it come out of my dick though, and hand the sample straight to them.
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Well that sucks. Yea, this place was semi-strict. If it was pure-clear, you'd have to come back in an hour. If it was still clear I believe they would send it to a lab or something (where they would probably do additional tests).
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
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So basically your place is trying to make you dehydrate yourself to concentrate drug metabolites so that you'll fail the test.
That's bullshit and they damn well better hope they never end up testing me.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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I know this is an old topic, but it's the best drug test topic I've found... The only thing I'm concerned with is the color that Vitamin B2 makes your piss. Last time I tried to dilute my piss and take Vitamin B(I think it was B12), it turned my piss like NEON yellow, almost green. Then again, I think I took like 10 instead of 4 or 5... But still, the place that I took the test wouldn't accept it because on the bottle it has a part that shows several different squares with different colors, and apparently the sample has to be within a certain range or else they assume I took a masking/detoxifying substance to alter my urine sample.
Will taking less of the Vitamin B2 not make my piss THAT bright yellow/green, where it just looks plain unnatural... or is there another way to make my piss yellow? Because I just, fortunately, found out that I don't have to take my drug test at the courthouse.. instead I have to take it at the Juvenile Assessment Center (I'm 18, but on juvenile papers), and I know from past experience that they use an instant-results kind of test... So I know I can pass it by diluting my urine, but the only thing that worries me is coloring it, since it's been rejected for being too brightly neon yellow/green in the past.
Does anyone know whether this kind of drug test is passable from JUST using the aspirin method, so that I don't have to also dilute and color my urine, or am I better off using aspirin AND diluting? I'm assuming it's an EMIT test, since it's instant and not sent to a lab...
EDIT: Guess I'm not really sure after all if it's going to be an EMIT test or not, according to this: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_faq.shtml
2.9 TestCup: No details available yet. This new test by Roche involves urinating into a cup, where the cup has an indicator on the side displaying what drugs are positive.
That sounds like the type of test they give.
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PsychedelicSpirit said: But still, the place that I took the test wouldn't accept it because on the bottle it has a part that shows several different squares with different colors, and apparently the sample has to be within a certain range or else they assume I took a masking/detoxifying substance to alter my urine sample.
The ONLY basis for saying you failed a drug test is if they actually detect drugs in your sample.
Piss color is not a legitimate reason for rejecting your sample! If they attempt to do this just laugh in their faces and sue the fuck out of them.
You'll have no problem getting a civil judgment for any damages suffered if their only reason for failing you is the color of your piss.
I don't know your situation, but unless a condition of your probation is that your piss must be a certain color they can't do shit to you.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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Really? I just assumed I didn't have any rights in this area since I'm on probation. I dunno. Are you saying they can't FAIL me based on the color, or they can't reject it at all? Because I think the most that they do is just make me come back whenever they can reschedule and retake the test.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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PsychedelicSpirit said: But still, the place that I took the test wouldn't accept it because on the bottle it has a part that shows several different squares with different colors, and apparently the sample has to be within a certain range or else they assume I took a masking/detoxifying substance to alter my urine sample.
The ONLY basis for saying you failed a drug test is if they actually detect drugs in your sample.
Piss color is not a legitimate reason for rejecting your sample! If they attempt to do this just laugh in their faces and sue the fuck out of them.
You'll have no problem getting a civil judgment for any damages suffered if their only reason for failing you is the color of your piss.
I don't know your situation, but unless a condition of your probation is that your piss must be a certain color they can't do shit to you.
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There's a BIG problem with the argument you are putting forth- they aren't FAILING him. They are choosing to not accept the urine sample.
I am fairly certain that the very worst thing that can happen because your urine is oddly colored is that you will need to retest.
They are DEFINITELY within their rights to reject samples they believe to have been tampered with. This is why they often have a policy of not accepting samples that aren't clear enough. Other, more intensive lab places can reject samples for other reasons, like low specific gravity or low amounts of creatine.
If I were you, I'd definitely cut down a bit on the amount of vitamin B2 complex. Mine would often be sort of odd color, but not enough to raise enough suspicion to reject the sample. You said you had taken 10, definitely cut down on that. That much will turn it into the type of crazy colors you are talking about. Taking less should make it yellow, but somewhat within the range of normal looking pee.
You asked about dropping the B2 and just going with water and aspirin. If you have recently smoked, and REALLY need to pass this test, with the amount of water you will be drinking, you should be peeing absolutely clear, which is generally something they won't accept. You have to get to the good medium where it's yellow enough to pass but not too crazy.
I'd do the system (water, aspirin, b2 complex) but with less B2. With some B2, it should be colored enough to pass. If it isn't colored enough, maybe offhandedly comment that you had been working out yesterday and drank a lot of water afterwards. Or don't say anything and say you will be back. If it's too colored again, maybe comment that it's looked like that for a few days, you thought it was odd, and maybe you ate or drank something that did it, then go in the next time taking less B2. As long as you act casually, possibly make an innocent comment about it, and agree to come in next time (while altering your technique accordingly), you should be successful in the end.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
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Thanks for the advice. One more question: Should it be specifically B2 or is a Super B-Complex alright? The super complex has vitamin C, B1, B2, B3, B6, Folic Acid, B12, Biotin, and Pantothenic Acid. It's the only one I have right now, and I'm not sure if all the extra chemicals would mess with it or not. If it would be an issue, I'll just head up to Walgreens. I've got about 7 hours until my test by the way.
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B complex is fine.
1 is likely to be enough, 2 probably ok too.
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They are DEFINITELY within their rights to reject samples they believe to have been tampered with. This is why they often have a policy of not accepting samples that aren't clear enough.
Probation might be an excuse to be harsher on you.
But what's going to happen when you get before the judge when they try to violate your probation? Do you think they're honestly going to send you to prison just because your pee is the wrong color?
I don't see any legitimate legal or scientific grounds for rejecting samples because of their color. And I don't think it would fly in court.
What they're doing is probably just rejecting your sample so they can get another from you. They're just doing this because they figure it's cheaper to make you come back later rather than send it off for a real test (GC/MS). They're probably worried their $2 dip stick test will be hard to read because of the color and then they'll have to confirm with expensive GC/MS.
I had a buddy who they kept telling him his sample was "diluted". He just kept coming back again and again until they gave up and passed him. There's just nothing they can legally do to you. They aren't going to get a court order restricting your water intake, and they can't jail you for drinking too much water, so basically they're just shit out of luck.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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Fuck, I feel like throwing up already. And I can't tell if all of this water is making me feel a tad bit drowsy, or if I'm just sleep-deprived. Odd, I got that feeling last time I diluted my urine for a drug test too. Maybe mild water intoxication? Eh, whatever, almost time for another glass.
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It happens. But be careful- too much water can be deadly. But I doubt you are up to that point. Just be careful.
I'll never remember my worst test. Day after 4/20. Had smoked like a fucking idiot. Starting waking up every 15 minutes at 4am to drink a glass of water. Took the B2 complex a little too late so first sample was too diluted, so I had to come back in an hour. So I hop in my car, go to McDonalds, puke my GUTS UP all over the bathroom floor (just barely didn't make it), then go back and pass that test like a champ!
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Haha nice. The line was really faint, but I passed.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
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I have a ?. I get clean urine from a friend, does it matter how old the piss is and should you keep it in the fridge or is it okay to let it stay at room temp for a few days
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#18430102 - 06/16/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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It would ferment if you leave it out at room temperature.
I'd keep it in the fridge until the day you need it, but you gotta remember that most testing places also test the temperature to make sure it's in the right range of warmth. Too cold, and they will have you either retake the test or count it as a fail.
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