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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#11199574 - 10/07/09 10:12 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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So basically your place is trying to make you dehydrate yourself to concentrate drug metabolites so that you'll fail the test.
That's bullshit and they damn well better hope they never end up testing me.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#12127822 - 03/02/10 01:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know this is an old topic, but it's the best drug test topic I've found... The only thing I'm concerned with is the color that Vitamin B2 makes your piss. Last time I tried to dilute my piss and take Vitamin B(I think it was B12), it turned my piss like NEON yellow, almost green. Then again, I think I took like 10 instead of 4 or 5... But still, the place that I took the test wouldn't accept it because on the bottle it has a part that shows several different squares with different colors, and apparently the sample has to be within a certain range or else they assume I took a masking/detoxifying substance to alter my urine sample.
Will taking less of the Vitamin B2 not make my piss THAT bright yellow/green, where it just looks plain unnatural... or is there another way to make my piss yellow? Because I just, fortunately, found out that I don't have to take my drug test at the courthouse.. instead I have to take it at the Juvenile Assessment Center (I'm 18, but on juvenile papers), and I know from past experience that they use an instant-results kind of test... So I know I can pass it by diluting my urine, but the only thing that worries me is coloring it, since it's been rejected for being too brightly neon yellow/green in the past.
Does anyone know whether this kind of drug test is passable from JUST using the aspirin method, so that I don't have to also dilute and color my urine, or am I better off using aspirin AND diluting? I'm assuming it's an EMIT test, since it's instant and not sent to a lab...
EDIT: Guess I'm not really sure after all if it's going to be an EMIT test or not, according to this: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_faq.shtml
2.9 TestCup: No details available yet. This new test by Roche involves urinating into a cup, where the cup has an indicator on the side displaying what drugs are positive.
That sounds like the type of test they give.
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Edited by PsychedelicSpirit (03/02/10 01:50 PM)
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fastfred
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PsychedelicSpirit said: But still, the place that I took the test wouldn't accept it because on the bottle it has a part that shows several different squares with different colors, and apparently the sample has to be within a certain range or else they assume I took a masking/detoxifying substance to alter my urine sample.
The ONLY basis for saying you failed a drug test is if they actually detect drugs in your sample.
Piss color is not a legitimate reason for rejecting your sample! If they attempt to do this just laugh in their faces and sue the fuck out of them.
You'll have no problem getting a civil judgment for any damages suffered if their only reason for failing you is the color of your piss.
I don't know your situation, but unless a condition of your probation is that your piss must be a certain color they can't do shit to you.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#12131471 - 03/02/10 10:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Really? I just assumed I didn't have any rights in this area since I'm on probation. I dunno. Are you saying they can't FAIL me based on the color, or they can't reject it at all? Because I think the most that they do is just make me come back whenever they can reschedule and retake the test.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#12131671 - 03/02/10 11:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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fastfred said:
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PsychedelicSpirit said: But still, the place that I took the test wouldn't accept it because on the bottle it has a part that shows several different squares with different colors, and apparently the sample has to be within a certain range or else they assume I took a masking/detoxifying substance to alter my urine sample.
The ONLY basis for saying you failed a drug test is if they actually detect drugs in your sample.
Piss color is not a legitimate reason for rejecting your sample! If they attempt to do this just laugh in their faces and sue the fuck out of them.
You'll have no problem getting a civil judgment for any damages suffered if their only reason for failing you is the color of your piss.
I don't know your situation, but unless a condition of your probation is that your piss must be a certain color they can't do shit to you.
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There's a BIG problem with the argument you are putting forth- they aren't FAILING him. They are choosing to not accept the urine sample.
I am fairly certain that the very worst thing that can happen because your urine is oddly colored is that you will need to retest.
They are DEFINITELY within their rights to reject samples they believe to have been tampered with. This is why they often have a policy of not accepting samples that aren't clear enough. Other, more intensive lab places can reject samples for other reasons, like low specific gravity or low amounts of creatine.
If I were you, I'd definitely cut down a bit on the amount of vitamin B2 complex. Mine would often be sort of odd color, but not enough to raise enough suspicion to reject the sample. You said you had taken 10, definitely cut down on that. That much will turn it into the type of crazy colors you are talking about. Taking less should make it yellow, but somewhat within the range of normal looking pee.
You asked about dropping the B2 and just going with water and aspirin. If you have recently smoked, and REALLY need to pass this test, with the amount of water you will be drinking, you should be peeing absolutely clear, which is generally something they won't accept. You have to get to the good medium where it's yellow enough to pass but not too crazy.
I'd do the system (water, aspirin, b2 complex) but with less B2. With some B2, it should be colored enough to pass. If it isn't colored enough, maybe offhandedly comment that you had been working out yesterday and drank a lot of water afterwards. Or don't say anything and say you will be back. If it's too colored again, maybe comment that it's looked like that for a few days, you thought it was odd, and maybe you ate or drank something that did it, then go in the next time taking less B2. As long as you act casually, possibly make an innocent comment about it, and agree to come in next time (while altering your technique accordingly), you should be successful in the end.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#12131834 - 03/02/10 11:51 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice. One more question: Should it be specifically B2 or is a Super B-Complex alright? The super complex has vitamin C, B1, B2, B3, B6, Folic Acid, B12, Biotin, and Pantothenic Acid. It's the only one I have right now, and I'm not sure if all the extra chemicals would mess with it or not. If it would be an issue, I'll just head up to Walgreens. I've got about 7 hours until my test by the way.
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B complex is fine.
1 is likely to be enough, 2 probably ok too.
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They are DEFINITELY within their rights to reject samples they believe to have been tampered with. This is why they often have a policy of not accepting samples that aren't clear enough.
Probation might be an excuse to be harsher on you.
But what's going to happen when you get before the judge when they try to violate your probation? Do you think they're honestly going to send you to prison just because your pee is the wrong color?
I don't see any legitimate legal or scientific grounds for rejecting samples because of their color. And I don't think it would fly in court.
What they're doing is probably just rejecting your sample so they can get another from you. They're just doing this because they figure it's cheaper to make you come back later rather than send it off for a real test (GC/MS). They're probably worried their $2 dip stick test will be hard to read because of the color and then they'll have to confirm with expensive GC/MS.
I had a buddy who they kept telling him his sample was "diluted". He just kept coming back again and again until they gave up and passed him. There's just nothing they can legally do to you. They aren't going to get a court order restricting your water intake, and they can't jail you for drinking too much water, so basically they're just shit out of luck.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#12132602 - 03/03/10 04:41 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fuck, I feel like throwing up already. And I can't tell if all of this water is making me feel a tad bit drowsy, or if I'm just sleep-deprived. Odd, I got that feeling last time I diluted my urine for a drug test too. Maybe mild water intoxication? Eh, whatever, almost time for another glass.
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It happens. But be careful- too much water can be deadly. But I doubt you are up to that point. Just be careful.
I'll never remember my worst test. Day after 4/20. Had smoked like a fucking idiot. Starting waking up every 15 minutes at 4am to drink a glass of water. Took the B2 complex a little too late so first sample was too diluted, so I had to come back in an hour. So I hop in my car, go to McDonalds, puke my GUTS UP all over the bathroom floor (just barely didn't make it), then go back and pass that test like a champ!
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#12133097 - 03/03/10 08:48 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha nice. The line was really faint, but I passed.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#18429960 - 06/16/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have a ?. I get clean urine from a friend, does it matter how old the piss is and should you keep it in the fridge or is it okay to let it stay at room temp for a few days
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: redneck1029]
#18430102 - 06/16/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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It would ferment if you leave it out at room temperature.
I'd keep it in the fridge until the day you need it, but you gotta remember that most testing places also test the temperature to make sure it's in the right range of warmth. Too cold, and they will have you either retake the test or count it as a fail.
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