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fastfred
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Wow! Gravedigging a year old thread to post utter bullshit. You're not off to a good start blue.
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Alan Rockefeller
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not true, actually, the greatest source of B12 to earth is from the suns rays, just like vitamin D we absorb it through our eyes and skin. while the sun isn't a vegetable it certainly isn't an animal either 
No, the sun will not give you B12.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
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blue.mean.yen said: > A good case is vitamin B12. B12 is not found in vegetable sources. There is no vegetarian source for it. You have to take supplements of B12 to survive on a vegetarian diet for more than a few years.
not true, actually, the greatest source of B12 to earth is from the suns rays, just like vitamin D we absorb it through our eyes and skin. while the sun isn't a vegetable it certainly isn't an animal either 
BS
Look up unfiltered beer..
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not true, actually, the greatest source of B12 to earth is from the suns rays, just like vitamin D we absorb it through our eyes and skin. while the sun isn't a vegetable it certainly isn't an animal either 
No, the sun will not give you B12.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
so wiki knows everything now huh!?
actually you should look up a NASA experiment in semi-recent history. a man claimed to be some sort of prophet after discovering an old school of thought that one could survive on water and solar energy. he claimed to have mastered the talent and was touring and gaining popularity. so NASA challenged him to spend as much time as he could in a compound of theirs without any sustenance beyond water and a period of time in the morning and at night staring directly into the sun, when it was at it's lowest UV rating in order to protect his eyes. some hundreds of days later NASA conceded.
the man was tested in a variety of ways and it was found that he had B12 levels in the realm of somebody who ate daily steaks, and it's just common knowledge that a human can survive on nothing but H2O and B12. may lose a bit of weight though, as i'm most certain he would have.
i didn't believe this when first told either, but it was proved to me in both a textual and literal sense by one of my more esoterically wise friends.
and yes, essentially this is photo-synthesis for people.
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Wow! You really are gullible.
Some dipshit believes that he can live and gain power by staring directly into the sun, and you believe it?
No, you don't get B12 from the sun, and no you can't live on B12 and water.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#10946721 - 08/27/09 06:11 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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read this threat few days agom, forgor to reply ...
 Very nice threat i favorited it !!
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: dstark]
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Just to update and expound on the old sungazing hoax...
Hira Ratan Manek is an old indian engineer, nutcase, scammer who claimed that NASA had verified that he was getting energy from the sun which allowed him to live 180 days without food. Later he admitted that it was actually water and occasional buttermilk that he drank. When NASA was questioned they denied having any association with him what-so-ever.
So basically the whole thing is a scam by an old nutjob. He has a website and is still trying to take people's money. He's riding the fact that he got a few news outlets to believe a bald-faced lie long enough to print it, even though it's been completely debunked for a long time now.
Google "hira ratan manek hoax" for more info.
...and don't stare directly into the sun.
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You are confusing B-12 with vitamin D (which the sun helps synthesize).
Vegans have trouble with B-12, but I dont believe lacto-ovo-vegetarians have the same problems.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: Green_T]
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Hey i had a drug van come into my jobsite the other day, luckily i had known ahead of time by a few days what time it was comming to test all workers.
So i decided to use the OP's instructions on passing. I was nervouse cause the test was on tuesday morning and i had just smoked nd sniffed alot of oc that weekend b4.
But to my suprise i passed everything! It was the dipstick extended test that tested for all popular drugs. These are the abbreviations i suppose for the drug.
Coc, THC, PCP, AMP, OPI, BZO,BAR,MTD, PPX, METHQ
For each catagory there was a bar and if you were clean 3 lines came up, for each line that faded away meant u were dirty for that, thc came up wit 2 lines barely lol
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#10961080 - 08/29/09 12:34 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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How to pass a drug test? Drink lots and lots of water it always worked for me just drink until your about to throw up
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: ennos]
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ennos said: How to pass a drug test? Drink lots and lots of water it always worked for me just drink until your about to throw up
Dont forget to get some electrolyte in you though, as it would suck to die from water intoxication while trying to pass a drug test.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: demon6fire]
#11046913 - 09/12/09 02:50 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dont forget to get some electrolyte in you though, as it would suck to die from water intoxication while trying to pass a drug test.
Lack of electrolytes isn't the cause of water intoxication and won't have any effect on it.
Of course, it's not a bad idea though.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#11049046 - 09/12/09 10:31 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dont forget to get some electrolyte in you though, as it would suck to die from water intoxication while trying to pass a drug test.
Lack of electrolytes isn't the cause of water intoxication and won't have any effect on it.
Of course, it's not a bad idea though.
-FF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication Pretty sure a form of it can be caused by it, but I might be wrong. Whatever the case, you need electrolytes to keep the test from being nulled.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: demon6fire]
#11052155 - 09/13/09 02:27 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hyponatremia is electrolyte depletion, sometimes considered the same as water intoxication.
I guess they are considering it the same these days.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: ennos]
#11157921 - 09/30/09 03:17 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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ennos said: How to pass a drug test? Drink lots and lots of water it always worked for me just drink until your about to throw up
And at least for the place I was going, and probably for most law enforcement testers, they won't take that.
If you just chug lots and lots of water, your piss will simply look like water. They aren't idiots and will often make you retest. At the place I went to, you would come back in an hour.
Thats why the vitamin b2 complex is essential. A large dose of that about 90 minutes before the test will have you peeing water, but it will be radioactive yellow.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#11159135 - 09/30/09 06:39 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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And at least for the place I was going, and probably for most law enforcement testers, they won't take that.
If you just chug lots and lots of water, your piss will simply look like water. They aren't idiots and will often make you retest. At the place I went to, you would come back in an hour.
An hour probably isn't enough. Sure it will keep coming up diluted, but there isn't a thing they can do about it. If they want to keep paying to re-test you then let them. Finally they'll give up and be forced to hire you. Denying someone employment because they drink too much water isn't legal.
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Thats why the vitamin b2 complex is essential. A large dose of that about 90 minutes before the test will have you peeing water, but it will be radioactive yellow.
That's not going to save you. They don't reject samples because they are too clear, they reject them becasue they fail one of the tests. If you drink enough water your pee SHOULD be clear. That's why they test for pH, specific gravity, and creatine levels. Vitamins aren't going to make it pass those tests.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#11163246 - 10/01/09 11:16 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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An hour probably isn't enough. Sure it will keep coming up diluted, but there isn't a thing they can do about it. If they want to keep paying to re-test you then let them. Finally they'll give up and be forced to hire you. Denying someone employment because they drink too much water isn't legal.
I'm just saying the place I did it at required an hour, and if it wasn't adequately yellow, you would go in over and over again until you peed to their liking. In my case, it wasn't about getting a job, it was about going to jail, so they were overly strict.
I'm not sure if I mentioned it in my original post, but there are methods to get around specific gravity, pH, and creatine (varying amounts of Tums, creatine, etc.). I used these at first but discovered my specific place didn't test for them.
At the place I tested, which was a private organization contracted out by the district court, they only rejected samples because they were too clear. So in the end, with my method and vitamins, I'd literally be peeing pure water, only it was radioactive yellow. Enough to fool them.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: bhamlaxy]
#11170678 - 10/02/09 04:00 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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At the place I tested, which was a private organization contracted out by the district court, they only rejected samples because they were too clear.
Wow... That certainly isn't legal. If you complied with the court order to submit a sample then you should be set. If they reject the sample with no valid scientific basis then that's their problem.
Yellow or not isn't a valid reason to reject a sample and in fact your pee should be clear. If it's yellow you're either taking way over the RDA of vitamins or not drinking enough water, or both.
Most places DO test for creatine or SG, or they just don't care if the sample's diluted. They would be sued into the ground if someone suffered damages from their rejection of a sample based on non-valid methods.
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Re: How to pass a drug test [Re: fastfred]
#11189996 - 10/05/09 08:44 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Agree with FF. I've been tested at 3 different locations for probation non-sense and I always drank tons of water and nothing else, and always passed even with having heavily smoked a day or two before.
They never complained about it being overly clear either. I actually puked at the probation office from drinking too much water before, and they didn't care nor make me piss again. They did watch it come out of my dick though, and hand the sample straight to them.
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Well that sucks. Yea, this place was semi-strict. If it was pure-clear, you'd have to come back in an hour. If it was still clear I believe they would send it to a lab or something (where they would probably do additional tests).
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