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InvisibleZippoZM
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I need some advise on buying a handgun!
    #5583123 - 05/02/06 08:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I finally live in a state where there arent millions of restrictions on guns, and im moving about 20 miles from anyone... so i have decided to get a handgun.

I was in one of the stores today, and I was looking at all the handguns. they seem pretty pricey, I'm hoping to go with a used gun for the price.

I want somthing bigger than a .22 but i dont know how big to go. I was thinking about a 9 mil but i have heard i should just get a 45cal or a 380... anyone have some advise?

also how much am i looking at spending wise? the new ones were around 450 at the shop. i was hoping to find somthing used for around $200.


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583136 - 05/02/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5583156 - 05/02/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

haha, yeah im going to buy one for real this time.

that thread was to flush out which of the 3 people in my family were spying on me via this board... turned out it was everyone.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5583162 - 05/02/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Don't get a glock! They've got a reputation, and I'm sure they last forever... but I've never enjoyed shooting one. The top part is too light and they recoil a lot because of it.

9mm is a good caliber because it does the damage, and has pretty low recoil. Plus if you've got a woman, she could probably handle it without any trouble.

my personal favorite is the old Nazi Walther p38! The one my dad has still shoots like a dream after 60+ years!


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583167 - 05/02/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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zippoz said:
haha, yeah im going to buy one for real this time.

that thread was to flush out which of the 3 people in my family were spying on me via this board... turned out it was everyone.




HAH! Nice trick!


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: dr0mni]
    #5583195 - 05/02/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, it was a weird coupple of days, when everyone suddenly went out of town..... hahaha they got freeked out.

then my pops was all like, "i need you to give me the gun"

i fell over laughing


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583239 - 05/02/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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zippoz said:
I finally live in a state where there arent millions of restrictions on guns, and im moving about 20 miles from anyone... so i have decided to get a handgun.




Fuck yeah. Welcome my gun-toting brother. There's nothing like having a gat.

What do you want in a handgun? Are you looking to competition shoot? Are you looking for a concealed carry gun? Are you looking for a good 'ole home defense weapon that won't leave the house? Do you want a "beater" gun or a gun that will stay in pristine condition and maintain a high value?

We need more info.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: dr0mni]
    #5583250 - 05/02/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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dr0mni said:
Don't get a glock! They've got a reputation, and I'm sure they last forever... but I've never enjoyed shooting one. The top part is too light and they recoil a lot because of it.




I like Glocks. Yo.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5583260 - 05/02/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well im not going to get a conceal and carry, as im not going to give up my fingerprints....

but i do plan to open carry with me and keep it in my car and home.
mostly for target shooting, and personal defense.

I dont want it to be to bulky, and prefer a lighter weight, more versitle gun.

no revolvers, definately an automatic.

I would just get a shot gun, but the thing is that i have to travel alot, and i cant bring a gun into certain states without permits and so on... so im going to have to leave it in saftey deposit boxes and what not before i cross state lines.....

what do you think?


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5583267 - 05/02/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

uh seriously dude if u got mental issues dont buy a gun...


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583295 - 05/02/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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well im not going to get a conceal and carry, as im not going to give up my fingerprints....




Weird. In my state you don't have to give your fingerprints for a concealed carry permit. But, you do have to go through a background check.

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zippoz said:
but i do plan to open carry with me and keep it in my car




Open carry is frowned upon in most states. It is somewhat acceptable in the West though (Arizona, Nevada, etc..)

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zippoz said:
I dont want it to be to bulky, and prefer a lighter weight, more versitle gun.




Well, it sounds like you want a gun that is smallish (but not too small), has an average caliber, can be carried comfortably, is not terribly expensive, isn't a piece of shit, and that you can plink at stuff with. Is this correct?


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5583301 - 05/02/06 09:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ah glocks are good guns their not my fancy. for targets 9MM is better cus 9MM luger ammo is a lot cheaper than .45 caliber rounds.
my fasv handgun would have to be the ruger redhawk .44 magnum.
love shooting them


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5583304 - 05/02/06 09:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

get a .45 they make you look bad ass and are intimidating


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5583309 - 05/02/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you got it randal!

what state are you in again? and does it have resoprosity with its CCW permits?


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: Hitman203]
    #5583317 - 05/02/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ah glocks are good guns their not my fancy. for targets 9MM is better cus 9MM luger ammo is a lot cheaper than .45 caliber rounds.
my favorite handgun would have to be the Ruger red hawk .44 magnum.
love shooting them and just enjoy holding a massive revolver up cocking back the hammer and squeezing off high caliber slugs hahaha.

shat sorry for the double post was editing and blegh casn you delete my first one? completely?


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583361 - 05/02/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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what state are you in again? and does it have resoprosity with its CCW permits?




Pennsylvania.

Some states have reciprocity with other states when it comes to concealed permits. I think Arizona and Kentucky do for example. If you have a permit in either of those states you can go into the other state and carry concealed. Although, how you would legally carry the gun from Arizona to Kentucky (and through all of the non-reciprocity states in between) concealed is a mystery. Maybe they want you to teleport or something. My state has no reciprocity with any other state. I can only carry concealed in Pennsyvlania. These are questions which you should ask your local sheriff's office.

As for a gun that fits your criteria: If you were willing to spend $500-ish or so I would suggest a Sig or a Glock. But, if you are only willing to put down $200-ish I would suggest checking out the same brand that I have (Bersa). They are cheap but good guns that function well.

DON'T get a cheapo brand (Hi-Point, etc..). Anything under $150 brand new is junk.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5583378 - 05/02/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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MrMolotov said:
ah glocks are good guns their not my fancy. for targets 9MM is better cus 9MM luger ammo is a lot cheaper than .45 caliber rounds.
my fasv handgun would have to be the ruger redhawk .44 magnum.
love shooting them




9mm is the caliber of choice for women.

If I was gonna get a gun it would definetely be a .45


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5583384 - 05/02/06 09:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

under 150 new or used?

and what are the other crappy brannds?


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583392 - 05/02/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

desert eagle


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: Infrared]
    #5583398 - 05/02/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

dd44? :smile:


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583402 - 05/02/06 09:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have a Bersa Lama .380

good gun, and very cheap


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: monamine]
    #5583407 - 05/02/06 09:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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9mm is the caliber of choice for women.




Most male cops carry 9's.  :shrug:

9 mm ammo is cheap.  It's a decent caliber to plink at stuff with and it can put someone down if you hit them in the right areas.  Cops wouldn't shoot them if it was pussy ammo.  It's not like a .22 or anything.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5583416 - 05/02/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

haha, 22's what a joke hehe

yeah i wias thinking a beretta, isnt that what the cops use?

and yeah cheap ammo is key


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5583417 - 05/02/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I have a Bersa Lama .380

good gun, and very cheap




I have the Bersa Thunder .380. No complaints.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583426 - 05/02/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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zippoz said:
yeah, it was a weird coupple of days, when everyone suddenly went out of town..... hahaha they got freeked out.

then my pops was all like, "i need you to give me the gun"

i fell over laughing





Hahahahaha. *becomes first person to literally die of laughter*

"Zippoz, you haven't been yourself lately. Your mother and I are worried about you. Give me the gun son."

lol


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583429 - 05/02/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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zippoz said:
under 150 new or used?




New.

Quote:

zippoz said:
and what are the other crappy brannds?




Can't think of any at the moment.  I never look at those shit guns.  :tongue:


Edited by RandalFlagg (05/02/06 09:54 PM)


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5583434 - 05/02/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, most cops use the thunder .380 (I have the same model, BTW) as a backup pistol, or for off duty.

I've read reports of people firing thousands of rounds through those things without a single jam.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: Infrared]
    #5583442 - 05/02/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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desert eagle




Desert Eagles are badass guns. A little impractical and definately overkill...but still badass guns. They usually go for about $1000 or so.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: monamine]
    #5583455 - 05/02/06 09:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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monamine said:
Quote:

zippoz said:
yeah, it was a weird coupple of days, when everyone suddenly went out of town..... hahaha they got freeked out.

then my pops was all like, "i need you to give me the gun"

i fell over laughing





Hahahahaha. *becomes first person to literally die of laughter*

"Zippoz, you haven't been yourself lately. Your mother and I are worried about you. Give me the gun son."

lol




you have no idea how funny it was.

my step mom dipped out of the house without a word, so did my step brother.... i figured somthing was up but i never thought it was all of them in on it..


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583457 - 05/02/06 09:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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zippoz said:
yeah i wias thinking a beretta, isnt that what the cops use?




Some cops use Berrettas. Most carry Glocks nowadays. Glocks go for about $550-$650 brand new.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5583464 - 05/02/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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RandalFlagg said:
Quote:

monamine said:
9mm is the caliber of choice for women.




Most male cops carry 9's.  :shrug:

9 mm ammo is cheap.  It's a decent caliber to plink at stuff with and it can put someone down if you hit them in the right areas.  Cops wouldn't shoot them if it was pussy ammo.  It's not like a .22 or anything.




They use nothing but hollow points though. Cops carry them because police issue glocks hold 17-18 rounds.

.22 are awesome if you need to take down cockroaches and don't have bug spray handy. :grin:


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5583465 - 05/02/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah.. this is going to be a starter gun...

somthing i can feel out owning a gun with, ya know?


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583486 - 05/02/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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zippoz said:
yeah.. this is going to be a starter gun...

somthing i can feel out owning a gun with, ya know?




Damn straight.  You're on your way to being a real man.  :smirk:


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5583500 - 05/02/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

haha, well i dont know about being a man having anything to do with owning a gun, but i like to shoot!

but then again, i did almost blow my foot off with a shot gun once while i was 15....

tried to snap the action shut while holding the stock only... wellllll my hand was on the trigger and as soon as that breach got half closed... it triggered the pin.........

2 feet in front of my foot, was a hole....


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5583501 - 05/02/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Bersa makes a decent handgun.

I like the fact that it switches from a double action to a single after the first shot, makes the trigger pull very light. I've shot a friends a few times at the range and was suprised that I got now jams in such a cheap gun, even when I tried to jam it I couldn't.

Very good gun for the price.


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    #5583505 - 05/02/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

get the .50 cal desert eagle



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    #5583507 - 05/02/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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yeah.. this is going to be a starter gun...

somthing i can feel out owning a gun with, ya know?




Long barrel Dessert Eagle all the way.  :laugh:


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: deryl]
    #5583508 - 05/02/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

wait single action isnt a semi-auto is it? that means you have to cock it every time right...?


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583510 - 05/02/06 09:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

s&w internal hamer 38. made of scandium. I think thats the type you probably want. Light as a feather small as a mouse. Put it in your pocket and forget about it.

Or let me ask you.......why do you want a handgun? You never seemed the shooting type.


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    #5583526 - 05/02/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Is anyone else here practically a balistics expert from playing WW2 videogames? (I know it takes about 6 shots of a Luger to drop a Nazi, but only about 2 with a Colt.)


Edited by monamine (05/02/06 10:02 PM)


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    #5583547 - 05/02/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

no, iv been around guns scince I was 3 because my dad likes to collect all types of guns


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    #5583550 - 05/02/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

not necessarily, the bersa thunder just has it so that you have to cock the hammer on the first shot. safety precaution type thing.


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    #5583587 - 05/02/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ohhh i gotcha.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583669 - 05/02/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I would save up. A gun isnt something to bargain on unless you know what to look for in a used one. I think there are some russian or some other easter eu guns that can be bought new for cheap.I dont know anything about them though.


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    #5583691 - 05/02/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

there used to be a gun store near my house that sold used semi-auto ak's for anywhere from $100-$200.

that's a Russian gun you can buy and not know dick about maintenance, because it really doesn't matter if you ever clean it. :lol:


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    #5583701 - 05/02/06 10:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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there used to be a gun store near my house that sold used semi-auto ak's for anywhere from $100-$200.

that's a Russian gun you can buy and not know dick about maintenance, because it really doesn't matter if you ever clean it. :lol:




I can get an East Bloc AK for like $250. Pretty nice for the money too.


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    #5583704 - 05/02/06 10:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i can get a used ak for $350 with collapsable stock, my buddy bought one.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: deryl]
    #5583719 - 05/02/06 10:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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there used to be a gun store near my house that sold used semi-auto ak's for anywhere from $100-$200.

that's a Russian gun you can buy and not know dick about maintenance, because it really doesn't matter if you ever clean it. :lol:




yeah im getting a ak soon hopefully. VEPR :thumbup:


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: buckwheat]
    #5583756 - 05/02/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm looking forward to one day purchasing an MP5.  Nice guns :thumbup:


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    #5583769 - 05/02/06 10:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm looking forward to one day purchasing an MP5.  Nice guns :thumbup:




I see a second morgage in your future.

German guns=crazy expensive


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583777 - 05/02/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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i can get a used ak for $350 with collapsable stock, my buddy bought one.




Good old ButtFuckastan.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5583784 - 05/02/06 10:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm looking forward to one day purchasing an MP5.  Nice guns :thumbup:




In order to buy automatic weapons you need an FFL (Federal Firearm's license).  And, I have heard that you are not allowed to purchase automatics made after a certain date.  I think MP5's are not allowed to be procured by private citizens because of this.

Some company makes a semi-automatic ripoff of the MP5 though.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: monamine]
    #5583787 - 05/02/06 10:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

may i just remind that being found with a controled and dangerous substance along with any firearm is major jail time.


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    #5583792 - 05/02/06 10:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm looking forward to one day purchasing an MP5.  Nice guns :thumbup:




I see a second morgage in your future.

German guns=crazy expensive




just the other day I had a chance to buy a fully auto tec9 for $1k. 

but I was unsure of the gun's origins, so I opted out.


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    #5583800 - 05/02/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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may i just remind that being found with a controled and dangerous substance along with any firearm is major jail time.




True. In a lot of states it is immediately considered "armed trafficking". A lot of states have a mandatory minimum life sentence for armed trafficking.


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5583802 - 05/02/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, thats why i have never really thought about getting a gun before now. but my heavydays are over


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5583814 - 05/02/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

heavy or light it doesn't matter you got anything your screwed.... which do you wanna choose?


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Re: I need some advise on buying a handgun! [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5583817 - 05/02/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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just the other day I had a chance to buy a fully auto tec9 for $1k.





Tec 9's are semi-automatic. Somebody did some tampering with that gun. That thing is HIGHLY illegal. If you get caught with shit like that you are fucked.


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    #5583832 - 05/02/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

tech 9's are pretty pointless unless you like to buy amo


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    #5583836 - 05/02/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

youre telling me that if i get caught with a gram and a gun im going to jail? for a heavily increased sentance?

i thought that it was only for dealers and people holding weight.


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    #5583848 - 05/02/06 10:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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youre telling me that if i get caught with a gram and a gun im going to jail? for a heavily increased sentance?

i thought that it was only for dealers and people holding weight.




It varies wildly by state.  You should check into your state's laws.

Some states have thrown people in the slammer for 25 years for having one sugar cube hit of LSD.  :shrug:


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    #5583851 - 05/02/06 10:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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just the other day I had a chance to buy a fully auto tec9 for $1k.





Tec 9's are semi-automatic. Somebody did some tampering with that gun. That thing is HIGHLY illegal. If you get caught with shit like that you are fucked.




yeah, I know. another reason I didn't buy it. Damn, it sucks that only those in the military get to play with automatic weapons. I wish I could get a special permit so owning one wouldn't be against the law.


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    #5583852 - 05/02/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm well i dont have any dosed, probably just weed and beer...


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    #5583855 - 05/02/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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tech 9's are pretty pointless unless you like to buy amo




They work quite well for lighting people up in the hood though.


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    #5583867 - 05/02/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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may i just remind that being found with a controled and dangerous substance along with any firearm is major jail time.




Me do drugs? You,sir,offend me. I never...


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    #5583869 - 05/02/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Damn, it sucks that only those in the military get to play with automatic weapons. I wish I could get a special permit so owning one wouldn't be against the law.




Get your FFL. Then you could buy and own automatic weapons.

You have to go through a super extensive background check though.


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    #5583871 - 05/02/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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youre telling me that if i get caught with a gram and a gun im going to jail? for a heavily increased sentance?

i thought that it was only for dealers and people holding weight.




You should really check the books and find out.


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    #5583912 - 05/02/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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just the other day I had a chance to buy a fully auto tec9 for $1k.





Tec 9's are semi-automatic. Somebody did some tampering with that gun. That thing is HIGHLY illegal. If you get caught with shit like that you are fucked.




yeah, I know. another reason I didn't buy it. Damn, it sucks that only those in the military get to play with automatic weapons. I wish I could get a special permit so owning one wouldn't be against the law.




The jail time for illegal autos is one of the few things that come close to the harshnes of drug laws. I wonder why


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    #5583915 - 05/02/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

go to a shooting gallery rent one. Find one you feel comfy with and buy that kind. i recommend a berreta .40 very nice piece.


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    #5583942 - 05/02/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hey gun whackos:

38 cal=9mm?


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    #5583967 - 05/02/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

.380 = 9x 17mm
9= 9x 19 mm

so basically .380's are just as wide, but a little shorter


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    #5583989 - 05/02/06 11:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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.380 = 9x 17mm
9= 9x 19 mm





Thanks for clearing that up. Fucking dumb ass people not using metric...


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so basically .380's are just as wide, but a little shorter




Thanks for the math lesson. (Just kidding you know I love you. :heart:)


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