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iheartpr0n
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Question about Salvia and LSD *DELETED*
#5582546 - 05/02/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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MarijunaIsGood4U
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: iheartpr0n]
#5582556 - 05/02/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i haven't done acid but salvia is the sexiest plant in the world.
o yeah and you should try to do salvia while listening to music, it can intensify the trip. (i listened to Everlong by the Foo Fighters and Shine On You Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd while tripping on salvia)
Edited by MarijunaIsGood4U (05/02/06 06:45 PM)
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iheartpr0n
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD *DELETED* [Re: MarijunaIsGood4U]
#5582589 - 05/02/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: iheartpr0n]
#5582599 - 05/02/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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um salvia is nothing like an lsd trip...or at least to me. On salvia i can barley keep my own head up for like 2 mins, and have no control over what is goin on...
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MarijunaIsGood4U
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: iheartpr0n]
#5582600 - 05/02/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i have.
it's awesome shit... i did it in the wilderness. the first minute, i was shit scared but the rest of the trip i enjoyed it... can't remember much but i remember i thought i was a tree.
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: iheartpr0n]
#5582633 - 05/02/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Salvia was a whole world away from LSD for me. Salvia hits me so hard and fast that i dont even know i am on drugs, everything just becomes very weird all of the sudden. Body loads, pulls and pushes, whacked out visuals. It did have the "evil" quality you speak of, and i have many other friends who have noticed the same thing. LSD was not even close to that for me. It comes on nice and slowly with minimal body load. Thoughts are racing and visuals are plentiful, but i always know im on acid and I can still socialize fairly well.
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DeathCompany
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yeah with salvia i get blast off to hyperspace- cant imagine what 12 hours of that would be like considering 1 second of salvia trip feels like literal months. besides if it was similar then it would be considered an analog to LSD which would automatically make it illegal.
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: Luv_The_Cyans]
#5582646 - 05/02/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I tripped on salvia outside while it was nighttime, I became a face and reality was gone.
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: enderwood]
#5582675 - 05/02/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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For me there is nothing further from the lsd experience than salvia.
When I use mushrooms I can see some similarities to salvia visuals. Salvia just acts so very differently cognatively(than any other drug), for me anyways.
They do say salvia is the only drug that is experientially similare to iboga. They say iboga is like a fat salvia trip that lasts 16 hours or so. Its just a way so many people choose to explain it.
I wouldnt compare lsd to salvia. The whole "its like a 12 hour long salvia trip" is a bit far fetched. Just because they are so very different. Salvia is an atypical hallucinogen, like iboga.
If you were to make a list of the differences between the two drugs it would be one hell of a long list. Some things that lsd can do salvia just cannot do. Some things unique to salvia just cannot be compared to lsd.
I could almost see why someone would compare mushrooms and lsd or Ayahuasca and mushrooms.
I just dont want people getting the wrong impression about lsd.
Edited by stemmer (05/02/06 07:17 PM)
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: enderwood]
#5582679 - 05/02/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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LSD doesn't have the chaotic/numbness dimension that salvia has for me. I suppose that the intensity of a strong LSD trip is probably closer to a salvia than a mushroom trip is, but that's not saying much.
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: enderwood]
#5582681 - 05/02/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have been very interested in doing Salvia and going to place an order pretty soon, money is really tight right now but I will try it. I have done alot of lsd in my life and from what everyone has told me the two if they have done both were completly different. I am interested in triing alot of the new things I have read about on here and some of the new sites I have come across and the idea that it is somthing not completly outlawed yet is very nice as well
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iheartpr0n
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: enderwood]
#5582707 - 05/02/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, when I said they had some qualities that were alike I kind of meant the 'edge' they both seem to have, at least for me. Salvia is in no way like LSD when it comes to the duration and that fact that it sends you off in total confusion.
To me, shrooms are far more peaceful. Salvia isn't peaceful at all (until 30 minutes later, for me). Acid, on the other hand, was slightly confusing (really fun) and jerked me around more. I felt strong and powerful on LSD, and I feel the same while on Salvia (especially when it was mixed with 3.5 grams of 'shrooms). Quite hard to explain, but both are wonderful.
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD *DELETED* [Re: iheartpr0n]
#5582746 - 05/02/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: kilroy]
#5582761 - 05/02/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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"I suppose that the intensity of a strong LSD trip is probably closer to a salvia than a mushroom trip is"----> I can see why you would say that.
Im a musician and have always been very interested in the fusion between audiovisuals/visuals/geometry/ and the math that is music. On a high dose of lsd I hear the most clear sounds if I pay attention to them, same with mushrooms or ayahuasca but less so. The spririts of ayahuasca write music, they are called "icaros". Those three drugs make me feel like I can hear my brain, and it sounds far more complex than any music I have ever heard, and its all natural/not my purposeful doing because if it was that would be even more amazing. My brain becomes almost shocked by this electric matrix of harmonies and constantly moving in this complex intertwined way. With mushrooms and ayahuasca, it sounds more like massive collection of entities with musical personalities as they wistle at me, and with those two drugs I sing back to them in my mind and they react and cheere for me, and the sounds even explode with color from each little curled up node of information. I have come to the conclusion that these are far more than sounds. I mean hell, I can draw pictures of them.
This is one of the many differences I find between these drugs and salvia(lsd more so than the others). Salvia emits no sound for me except a certain complex but different sort of crackling sound before I "break through" if anything. Im sure the sounds are related, but thats a whole nother topic.
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: iheartpr0n]
#5582763 - 05/02/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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we understand u merely saw similarities
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iheartpr0n
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5582817 - 05/02/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
stemmer said: "I suppose that the intensity of a strong LSD trip is probably closer to a salvia than a mushroom trip is"----> I can see why you would say that.
Im a musician and have always been very interested in the fusion between audiovisuals/visuals/geometry/ and the math that is music. On a high dose of lsd I hear the most clear sounds if I pay attention to them, same with mushrooms or ayahuasca but less so. The spririts of ayahuasca write music, they are called "icaros". Those three drugs make me feel like I can hear my brain, and it sounds far more complex than any music I have ever heard, and its all natural/not my purposeful doing because if it was that would be even more amazing. My brain becomes almost shocked by this electric matrix of harmonies and constantly moving in this complex intertwined way. With mushrooms and ayahuasca, it sounds more like massive collection of entities with musical personalities as they wistle at me, and with those two drugs I sing back to them in my mind and they react and cheere for me, and the sounds even explode with color from each little curled up node of information. I have come to the conclusion that these are far more than sounds. I mean hell, I can draw pictures of them.
This is one of the many differences I find between these drugs and salvia(lsd more so than the others). Salvia emits no sound for me except a certain complex but different sort of crackling sound before I "break through" if anything. Im sure the sounds are related, but thats a whole nother topic.
I agree with you on the sound difference. When it comes to sound, Salvia can't even come close to mushrooms and lsd.
By the way, the bold was written perfectly.
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: iheartpr0n]
#5582902 - 05/02/06 08:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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ive never tried salvia before..im from melbourne...it seem pretty hard to get ahold of...ive dun some research and it seems that the Salvia divinorum plant is the way to go...ive noticed that come places over here stock Salvia officianalis.. does anyone know is this will give the same affect you all talk of..cheers guys
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: Xzibit]
#5582936 - 05/02/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wont give anywhere near the same effect. I have tried it just for fun and it does atleast something for more succeptable individuals.
So make some tea, eat a quid and smoke some pot and you just might be able to understand why anyone would suggest ingesting it. It has no salvinorum A in it. It is said to have some similare chemicals in it, but in very small amounts.
I personally am sure it does work with or without pot, but its NOTHING like salvia D. It gives me some very subtle visuals, but I have used hallucinogens for years, so doubt you will feel the same way no matter how big the quid is or how much tea you drink. Just dont smoke the stuff.
So ya, it may add something to a high and even have its own effects, but I would hardly consider it to be hallucinogenic.
Edited by stemmer (05/02/06 08:20 PM)
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: Xzibit]
#5582950 - 05/02/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Question about Salvia and LSD [Re: NickSoapdish]
#5582974 - 05/02/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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mmm..thanks guys
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