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OfflineEternalEden
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Bad Trip, help would be appreciated:Mushies
    #5582147 - 05/02/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Alright well here goes- This trip that i had was not a recent trip, but a trip i had last year, around this time. I dont know why but i retrospect on the meaning of my trips alot and just trying to figure this one out.

The days setting was that it was my senior prom, i wasnt too impressed with how the prom was set up ect....I had a decent time with my date, but our relationship was a lil' shaky at the time.

So after a long night of dancing, I went home and was feeling alright, fairly happy about my night, so i took a nice hot bath to prepare myself for my trip. After this i went upstairs and downed my shrooms( dosing from somewhere 2-2.5g dried cubes ).

I then occupied myself by playing The Sims 2 while i came up, i began to get this sick, depressing feeling, i dont know if i was having a slight anxiety attack or what, but i couldnt stand to play the sims anymore. So i got off of the computer quick and layed down in my bed and watched fuse(music channel), that kinda freaked me out, so i turned that off.

I dont remember what kind of thoughts were going through my head but they were quite disturbing. It felt like my head was racing and i couldnt stop tossing and turning. I just layed there in this state for about 3 hours, it felt like complete mental torture. I dont know what factors played into this bad trip but i never want to have that feeling again. It kinda felt like i was dying right there on my bed.

This was my first solo trip and my only one to date, and prior to that i had about 2 good trips with friends. Throughout the past year i have tripped 5+ times, all being positive trips. I really want to trip solo again but im afraid of having another bad trip like this one.

Anyone have any tips on having a good solo trip? I plan on taking a full eigth when the time comes.


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Re: Bad Trip, help would be appreciated:Mushies [Re: EternalEden]
    #5587843 - 05/03/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Personally, I would get used to taking low doses when dosing solo before moving up. I personally have never dosed alone, I have dosed many times with friends. It sounds like without your friends there to distract you the mushrooms creeped up on you pretty strongly. I find that when I am alone during a shroom trip I get anxious much easier than when I am with friends.


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Re: Bad Trip, help would be appreciated:Mushies [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #5595403 - 05/05/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I really enjoy tripping solo, but it's not something to be taken lightly when you're using moderate to high doses.

To get the most out of a solo trip, you really have to do your preparation. You have to make sure that all loose ends are tied, because even things you may easily push aside in your mind during your sober state can cause significant discomfort during the experience.

Preparation also means setting up the music (playlists) you want to listen to, activities you want to do, food you want to eat, lighting, cleaning your room / house, etc. You will have a much more positive experience if you are 100% sure that you have no responsibilities (even small ones like needing to change music can make a significant difference) during your trip so that you can traverse into your head and out again without worrying that you need to attend to anything.

You might also have irrational worries about tripping alone; "What happens if I walk outside and into the road without realising it?", "What happens if a thought process causes me to believe that life isn't worth living?". even things related to phobias that you might have. I believe that it's worth considering things like these before the trip if you're at all concerned about them, because then you'll usually find them laughable and insignificant once you reach the peak of the experience, and that helps to give additional re-assurance, strengthening the positive experience of the trip.

Being able to sit or lie in a room knowing 100% that you have nothing to worry about and being free to explore the depths of your mind in this state is a truly wonderful experience; one that I have never seen adequately described in words.

I would also advise that you dedicate two days to the trip; the day of the trip itself and the following day. That's not to say that you shouldn't do anything else on those days, but it's probably best to ensure that you won't be worrying about last minute preparations on the day of the trip or things that you may need to do afterwards such as college, university or work. I usually find that it's best if I do something before the trip that I would otherwise not normally do; walking outside without a purpose, just for the sheer enjoyment and experience of walking aimlessly usually sets me up with a good mindset for a trip.

Likewise, I find that it's also nice to see the outside world on the day following a trip without needing to worry about a purpose of being in the outside world, especially if it's a nice day. It might sound silly, but the difference is very noticable when you actually dedicate some time to observing the outside world without a purpose, even in places that you may have been hundreds of times before.

Anyways, that's just my advice from my own (somewhat limited) experience.

Finally, if you're still in education, then tripping alone may not be wise at all. I've found that my most enjoyable experiences have been those taken whilst in work, since being in work ensures that there is a clear divide between your own free time and the time for worrying about your responsibilies, whereas in education, you have personal study that usually must be done in your own time and so you're never truly free from responsibility, which can affect the experience.


Edited by TurricaN (05/05/06 07:30 PM)


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Re: Bad Trip, help would be appreciated:Mushies [Re: TurricaN]
    #5595628 - 05/05/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Like the other guy said, I'd get used to the smaller ammounts first! I also have some suggestions I've heard to control trips! Here they are:

1. Find something to occupy your mind that is the least scariest thing you can think of.

2. Don't trip alone or trip with people that may scare you.

3. Think of something funny (if your mind's still intact) that you know of.

4. I've also heard of drinking water.

5. Assuring yourself that the shrooms are making these things happen, and saying that they're not real.

6. Don't even start to take shrooms if you're in a bad mood (sad, angry or a bit paranoid about taking them).

7. Smoking marijuana before or during the trip can boost your mood!

Those are my tips! Hpe they come in handy!


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in there either because if we go in, there we might learn something that they
don't know. And that makes us a little out of their control.


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Re: Bad Trip, help would be appreciated:Mushies [Re: colimon]
    #5600362 - 05/07/06 08:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Everything that you experience is something that you already know but don't want to accept or learn from it. Psychedelics only "melt" ego and more things that you weren't aware of start to bubble from subconsciousness to the surface.

What to do? Lay down, relax and breath. Meditate. Try to still your mind and watch how spirits want you to run in labyrinth that you have created. You aren't what you think. You aren't how others perceive you. You aren't your body and you aren't your thoughts. If you are a believer then start to pray. There is a very good reason for this practice.

Ultimately - don't struggle and let them show you what they want to tell you. Trips can be fun but you need to earn healing your soul. The question is - are you ready for it? If you want to prepare yourself then there are few links on http://www.erowid.org/spirit/spirit.shtml

This is what I've learned and what I think. In practice it can be not worth mentioning it. Be careful, surrender to the flow and good luck!


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Re: Bad Trip, help would be appreciated:Mushies [Re: colimon]
    #5602035 - 05/07/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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colimon said:
Like the other guy said, I'd get used to the smaller ammounts first! I also have some suggestions I've heard to control trips! Here they are:

1. Find something to occupy your mind that is the least scariest thing you can think of.

2. Don't trip alone or trip with people that may scare you.

3. Think of something funny (if your mind's still intact) that you know of.

4. I've also heard of drinking water.

5. Assuring yourself that the shrooms are making these things happen, and saying that they're not real.

6. Don't even start to take shrooms if you're in a bad mood (sad, angry or a bit paranoid about taking them).

7. Smoking marijuana before or during the trip can boost your mood!

Those are my tips! Hpe they come in handy!





sorry but if one was to relay on these suggestions for a good trip and had to deal with something bad he might not get a positive outcome...
while some of these are sensible they are totally out of context!

his trip was "bad" because he wasn't ready to face his doubts and fears! he was probably thinking about all sorts of things from such an eventfull night... he was probably thinking about the "now what" everyone gets when finelly finishing school!
i don't know about you but MJ makes me even more confused when i already am... not to mention paranoide (not about cops or any BS like that... plainly thinking the worst simply because i'm used to it) it really depends on the person but i wouldn't suggest cannabis to anyone having a "bad" trip! infact i belive most of the bad trips i've read about over here are presipitated by cannabis rather then the mushroom!

of course taking shrooms when you're not feeling good is a good sugestion but not relevent... he thought he was doing ok otherwise he wouldn't have gone through with it!
shrooms should not be taken as a purly recriational drug... you can't expect mushrooms to make you feel better! (well you can but that won't get you far)

as for assuring your self it's the mushrooms and not you... that's plain wrong! it's all you! i would understand this advice when you're talking about wild scary hallucinations but not when you're talking about thoughts! yeah it's important and reasurring to remind your self you're under the influance but you can't expect it to slove anything!

and well... tripping solo is not to be taken lightly... and certenly not for purly recriational purposes! having a sitter or a tripping friend makes a lot of diffrance but that dose not mean that going solo is a nono.

distracting your self and calming your self down is of course a way to deal with a bad trip but often it's impossible and the frustration can cause even more disstress!

this thread hs some good advice...
i find it best to just accept what's happening and move on to other things... if you get stuck on some depressing thoughts you can say something like "ok this is something i need to deal with calmly... try to gather your self and think it through and if i can't i'll just leave it for now and come back to it later" along with reassuring your self you're probably over reacting due to the drug...
also don't be surprised when your doubts and disapointments surface up... tripping solo usualy means you're gonna be thinking and feeling your everyday stuff just 10X
if you usualy keep your self busy and manage to enjoy your solo sober time then you're probably going to have a good time keeping your self busy tripping otherwise be prepered for the worst! and be ready to accept it or deal with it... otherwise don't trip alone!


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