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Tough questions re: ibogaine *DELETED*
    #5581620 - 05/02/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


Edited by Lion (05/02/06 02:19 PM)


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Re: Tough questions re: ibogaine [Re: Lion]
    #5582103 - 05/02/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Tried iboga rb two times. First time it was around 8g soaked overnight in water consumed with plant material. Got no result except for heavy stomach - the powder is real tough beetsch.
Second time consumed the remaining amount of around 12g. WEIRD. Almost no result again except for some distinct awareness of an unbelievably powerful entheogen, a Leviathan of mind-altering substances. It's hard to explain but regardless of almost no perceivable effect I clearly understood it's a mammoth. Reminded me a bit the planetary-strong feeling of a high dose of rue though on an intergalactic level.

It was over a year ago and until now I have no desire to try a higher dose of it. It's not even fear, rather pure awe after just a glimpse of this monster. Needs DEEP respect.


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Re: Tough questions re: ibogaine [Re: shneck]
    #5582474 - 05/02/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Have you guys seen that show that "going tribal" where that guy went to a tribe in Africa and took Iboga ritualistically ??? that shit was INTENSE. He said he was "occupying the consciousness of others"


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Re: Tough questions re: ibogaine [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5582696 - 05/02/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah i saw that a couple tiems its very cool. i wish he could have explained what he saw


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Re: Tough questions re: ibogaine [Re: DeathCompany]
    #5582724 - 05/02/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Here is an intresting read about how ibogaine is overhyped as a cure all for heroin addiction, when in reality it usually doesn't work, and often costs a lot to get the treatment. On a side note, don't take too much, it has killed people before.
http://www.heroinhelper.com/sick/detox_nightmares_part_2.shtml


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Re: Tough questions re: ibogaine [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5582759 - 05/02/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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EquilibriuM said:
Have you guys seen that show that "going tribal" where that guy went to a tribe in Africa and took Iboga ritualistically ??? that shit was INTENSE. He said he was "occupying the consciousness of others"


That is the show that piqued my curiosity about ibogaine.  Very cool stuff.  :thumbup:

Thanks for all the advice, particularly about respecting the substance -- something I think is very important for all entheogens, but I will take extra caution if I do try ibogaine.

I think I will order 4 ounces of the rootbark and move up my dosages, albeit VERY carefully.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Tough questions re: ibogaine [Re: Lion]
    #5582834 - 05/02/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

After seeing that I thought to myself "occupying the consciousness of others", I have experienced the same thing with people when using ayahuasca, mushrooms or lsd, and did so using uncontrived natural methods attained through use of the drug, even when I was no where near the people I was thinking about. Im not saying I knew what they were doing at that time, but I recognized how what they say and do become a part of me, And learned about them using that realization among other more unspeakable ways.
That guy certainly did get the royal treatment(and it was not even a very high dose). Iboga does seem like a hallucinogenic monster. Totally different than the other potential monsters.


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Re: Tough questions re: ibogaine [Re: stemmer]
    #5583591 - 05/02/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Just a fair warning - there is concern that ibogaine is neuro-toxic which has resulted in no more human testing being done in the US.


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