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OfflinegrimR
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    #5580915 - 05/02/06 10:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Reason for deletion: rogues_pierre ruined the thread from his first reply, I feel it would not benefit the board to keep it here



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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: grimR]
    #5581014 - 05/02/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: Rogues_Pierre]
    #5581099 - 05/02/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

doesn't getting high ever leave your mind Rogue_Junky! Stop hijacking threads. I looked up info on your domain and I see nothing but scammed people crying about losing money to legalhighs.org so no one check it out, it's a scam.


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: grimR]
    #5581171 - 05/02/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My favorite part of the article:

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The brief filed by the Assistant Attorney General and the U.S. Department of Justice argues that any evidence filed in the case could harm national security. It also cautions that the brief should not be seen as an admission that the allegations stated by the EFF's court filings are true.




What a fucking joke. If the filings aren't true, the evidence brought to trial won't hurt national security.


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: Redstorm]
    #5581945 - 05/02/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

A link would be nice. In fact, it should be mandatory.


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5582342 - 05/02/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you mean a link to the story? I figured anyone who didn't trust my word could always google it, but I guess I was wrong. Here is a link...

http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/199
http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20060428191103695


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: grimR]
    #5582400 - 05/02/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks. I thought this was a business dispute. It's not


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5582949 - 05/02/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Business dispute? This is flagrant violation of the Constitution. Republicans .. Democrats .. who cares. This is unconstitutional intrusion by the government into my life.


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: newuser1492]
    #5583146 - 05/02/06 08:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well cb9 with "Senior Child molestation Expert" under your username I would think so. LOL jk


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: grimR]
    #5583214 - 05/02/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That's Molestation with a capital 'M'.


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: newuser1492]
    #5584653 - 05/03/06 07:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

How do you know there was a surveillance program if there is no evidence?


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: Rogues_Pierre]
    #5584826 - 05/03/06 08:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

There was evidence. There was a special room built in a major routing center, that room contained nothing but data-mining equipment, which processed information from illegal wiretaps.


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: Konnrade]
    #5585151 - 05/03/06 10:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Konnrade said:
There was evidence. There was a special room built in a major routing center, that room contained nothing but data-mining equipment, which processed information from illegal wiretaps.




Then why can't they use that information in court?



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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: Rogues_Pierre]
    #5585170 - 05/03/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Who says that they can't?

The problem is that the government is trying to use a technicality to sweep it under the rug and put an end to the trial.


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: Konnrade]
    #5585188 - 05/03/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Why would someone who claims to be a Canadian care about this unless he was a member of the Socialist Workers Party or Al Qaeda?


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: Rogues_Pierre]
    #5587798 - 05/03/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

He certainly wouldn't be with Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda does not electronically communicate plans, and they haven't even before the NSA thing became public. The only reason the government uses Al Qaeda as a justification for their long secret constitution violations is because when people think "Al Qaeda" they think "9/11" and they just decide put it under the rug. They say "hey I'm a pansy I'd rather throw away what my wonderful country has so pain-stakingly built then have the small insignifigant chance to die in a terrorist attack when there are millions of other more important things to worry about that would kill me."

Seriously, this was the first time I've ever read that Jefferson quote and I think it really sums out what worries me about large number of people today that consider any kind of protestor, activist, or movement to get people aware of the government's wrong-doings a bunch of "whiners."

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5587875 - 05/03/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

national security means the security of the corrupt people that don't want to get in trouble for what they are doing to us.


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: leery11]
    #5589115 - 05/04/06 05:28 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

all i can really say, is whoever out there didn't think we were ALREADY doing all of this (probably for more than a decade) was living in a fantasy world.

the fact that the government wont let anyone sue it, or it's companions should not be any more of a surprise.


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: kotik]
    #5590470 - 05/04/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I found the text for this book online years ago, but don't remember the website.  I haven't read it for years.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0914171828/104-6633675-1365555?v=glance&n=283155


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Re: US Calls for Dismissal of AT&T Case [Re: RedAlgae]
    #5592062 - 05/04/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

its not that I didn't suspect they were already doing this, it's the fact that it is the first time this has become public knowledge, and afterwards they are trying to keep the truth from getting out. They are basically "sweeping it under the rug" as Konnrade stated.

what worries me: If things like this are allowed to happen and people do not do anything about it, the other side will keep taking. Just as in a business, if something goes unpunished the conspirator takes it a step further the next time. It is human to push your boundaries and government officials are no different, thats what made the Jefferson quote relevent.

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"Beware of the leader who bangs the drums of war to whip the citizenry into patriotic ferver, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.

And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind is closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and do it gladly so.

How do I know? I know for this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."
- Julius Caesar (101-44BC)



(scary thought)


Quote:

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism."
- George Washington




And about Canada: AT&T is a major backbone of the internet all over the world, packets can travel from china and go through AT&T to get to its destination

RedAlgae (Rogue_Penis new shroomery name): are you a troll to? I still don't know what legal highs has to do with this topic. Why don't you guys start a new topic or try the search function, use that clicky thing under your hand to navigate to it.

no need to get frustrated because you are blind to the facts, then rate me one mushroom, calling me a canadian socialist who is against free speech. I am anything but against it, there is a time and a place for everything, no one in this topic wants to get ripped off by your catnip tripping, banana peel smoking website. Take your advertisements and trolls elsewhere. :rolleyes: Your not a shroomery sponsor and I don't see how anyone would want you as a sponsor, get over it ripoff.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5235607
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5235615

It is obvious you are a straight up snitch get out of here. Your kind is not welcome :thumbdown:


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