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Offline4taylor2made0
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no growth at all, no idea why.
    #5580160 - 05/02/06 01:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So i am new to this, first time. i used a very basic brown rice flour, vermiculite, and water mixed with a little honey. the only variances i had between my own efforts and my instructions were as followed:
i added more than (no more than a half a teaspoon over) the recomended one teaspoon for my 14 ish half pint jars.
i boiled the jars with the ring around the disc loose instead of tightened as i was instructed.
i boiled the jars for about 25 minutes instead of 20.

initial conditions consisted of days averaging 70 degrees F. and night lows of 65ish. after about 5-6 days of that daytime temperatures increased to 75,80 range and the nights do not dip below 70.

i inoculated my jars with a spore syringe about a week and a half ago (after leaving the jars for a few days), and have since seen NO growth what so ever. i decided to take some of my extra substrate and try to grow mold on it (like a control in an experiment), and that has yet to happen, which is leading me to believe it may be a problem with my grow medium. i have since chucked my "control" jar and begun trying to inoculate another small jar with mushrooms ive found and semi frequent exposure to the air. this has also been unsuccessful so far.

so if you have taken the time to read all this, i would love some input, because i am rather frustrated at the moment. thanks and keep on munchin'.


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Re: no growth at all, no idea why. [Re: 4taylor2made0]
    #5580282 - 05/02/06 03:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

lemme sum it up, this is your first grow and you basically didnt give shit about instructions - well great start !

i took the time to read it and all i got to say is toss it all,
get ready to READ AND FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS and click this link: http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek


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Re: no growth at all, no idea why. [Re: 4taylor2made0]
    #5580321 - 05/02/06 03:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

dont boil the subtrate jars. I put about 6 half pint jars in a big steamer made to fit half pint jars and about an inch of water. cover tops of jars in foil. STEAM for about 1 - 1.5 hours. Try to keep the temp at steady 78-80 atleast this has worked for me and its my second time. But by my readings about contam, humidity, temp and all that other shit where you live and what you live in i think has a big effect. i have had nothing but luck contamed or not. its easier then 123 just watch out for contams thats my biggest issue.

example. my house is old and pretty nasty which leaves for more airborne bacteria.


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Re: no growth at all, no idea why. [Re: Shush]
    #5580581 - 05/02/06 07:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

where did you see a reccomendation to use honey in a brf/verm jar? there's antibiotics in honey and a thing called osmotic pressure when your water isn't viscous enough that will prevent spores from germinating... right there are some good reasons.

second off, where does it say to boil for 25 minutes? if you're boiling/steaming, you need to go over an hour - like 75 or 90 minutes. you don't even have a chance with 25 minutes. your jars will soon stink to high hell with bacteria.

it looks like you got liquid cultures and pf type jars mixed up somewhere along the way... start over, follow the versions of the pf-tek or magic mushroom growers guide.


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Re: no growth at all, no idea why. [Re: 4taylor2made0]
    #5580628 - 05/02/06 07:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ok no offense but what the hell were u thinking man? I made sure i read for about 12 hrs before i attempted this. I made sure i had ALL the correct ingredient's and tools, i followed all directions without adding to them because i thought my ideas were better. It sucks but start ALL over, read all the posts for the last 2 months and read all TEKS then you will have a way better chance at this


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Re: no growth at all, no idea why. [Re: fozi]
    #5580691 - 05/02/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i would always recommend the newbie common q&a at the top of the forum.


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Re: no growth at all, no idea why. [Re: thenewguy05]
    #5587166 - 05/03/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

it is becoming clear to me that i did not chose the best tek, but is it really possible that honey and under "cooking" really stunted the growth completely?

im definitely not going to let this thwart my cultivation attempts.

thanks for all the posts, even to you cocky jackasses who revel in being more knowledgeable on the subject.


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Re: no growth at all, no idea why. [Re: 4taylor2made0]
    #5587236 - 05/03/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Lets not be so harsh guys, im sure all of you have made some mistakes along the lines. We all learn differently, but his initial post was a nice, detailed, description and clearly pointed out all his errors.

Sorry you had trouble, taylormade, follow the PF tek instructions that you have been linked to, and follow them exactly. If you do that you will have success in the end, guarunteed. Good luck!

PS

You a golfer?


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Re: no growth at all, no idea why. [Re: coda]
    #5588346 - 05/03/06 11:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

a golfer indeed :smile:
(more spores on the way!)


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Re: no growth at all, no idea why. [Re: 4taylor2made0]
    #5588415 - 05/03/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Awesome Taylormade its good you got some more spores on the way... what cha gonna get?

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