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OfflineSystemOfADOWN
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Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert..
    #5579339 - 05/01/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Okay, for some background info...

i started a grow about last year, basic pf tek type deal (my first time). verm & brf. i really didnt encounter any problems, but i had to shut the grown down early for security reasons.

but, i learned a lot. little things, what would be better to do, not to do, etc.

there is where i'm stuck. i just initiated another grow of 12 1/2 pint jars (verm & brf) just to get myself back in the flow. now the tough part. i want to grow in massive amounts, bulk if you will. this will be indoors, so security is an issue...can't have WREAKING odors from substrates and what not eminating throughout the house..

so, this is where i ask you, the shroomery community, to choose for me. i'm on a limited budget, but i can afford to buy what i need to have successful bulk grows.

casing produces a lot more than cakes obviously, but i hear horse poo is the bigger/best producer..now...do i case...or go with this poop option?

amount? i would hope for somewhere around 5-10 ounces every month or two, every flush, whatever. now, for me to produce such mushies, what will i need as far as:

- equipment
- substrate(s)
- spores

etc. i have spore syringes..

so..help me out. choose for me. something time-proven to work, as long as certain procedures are carried out. i understand a lot is personal opinion, but i cant choose and its getting to the point where i would rather someone just tell me what method to use, and/or help me out.

thanks to anyone that can..


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OfflineEquilibriuM
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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: SystemOfADOWN]
    #5579408 - 05/01/06 10:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you would case poo, just like you would case anything else. The most important thing you need is a large pressure cooker.


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5579441 - 05/01/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well for bulk grow, casing of some sort of course. (Poo I am told works incredible) Maybe if you set up a greenhouse style? That is what I am working towards. Some PVC (3/4 at least to keep it sturdy) and some shelves inbetween (just leave enough room for them to grow and so you can access them) and on the shelves you can place trays/casings. Although over the entire thing would need to be a plastic lining or something to trap moisture and create some humidity in there.

Equilibrium definitely made a point though, make sure you get a pressure cooker-IMO worth it.

Good luck.

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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: toole]
    #5579487 - 05/01/06 10:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

sounds like a dealing question to me. thats not cool here.


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: toole]
    #5579514 - 05/01/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

First thing is a PC a big one, $180



$15 vermiculite / $5 coco coir


$8WBS/$13Rye berry



Free!



Grain lids, tape for gas exchange.


Or

$30 impulse sealer and bags...


$40 food dehydrator



Malt/Dext for LC


Or

Karo in a BB



Just a thought :grin:


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Offlinewhatever123
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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: skeletor]
    #5579576 - 05/01/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

skeletor said:
sounds like a dealing question to me. thats not cool here.




Same thoughts.


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: whatever123]
    #5579677 - 05/01/06 11:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

asking how to grow large amounts has nothing to do with dealing...please get your heads outta your ass..


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: XsXs]
    #5579688 - 05/01/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

XsXs said:
asking how to grow large amounts has nothing to do with dealing...please get your heads outta your ass..




chill out buddy


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OfflineOneSense
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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: XsXs]
    #5579721 - 05/01/06 11:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

maybe you should get your head out of your ass and read :smile:

good luck my friend.


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: OneSense]
    #5579863 - 05/02/06 12:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yup. Big PC



Some WBS , some poo and a green house with cool mist



Some peeps do grow edibles . :thumbup:

Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony
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OfflineSystemOfADOWN
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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: HippieChick]
    #5580537 - 05/02/06 06:56 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

thanks for the responses, and no, im stocking up - seriously. as i said due to security reasons, i had to shut my last grow down - i want to be able to store maybe up to a pound or more so i can fly throughout the year..

lovely pictures..but where do i start besides buying everything? any tek's based on what you guys have told me? again - im not the most experienced with these things so t/y for bearing with me lol..

i see the PC is an important part..but explain to me because im just a cake maker, i have never attempted to case and/or build a small greenhouse for them..haha


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: SystemOfADOWN]
    #5580557 - 05/02/06 07:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

SystemOfADOWN said:
lovely pictures..but where do i start besides buying everything? any tek's based on what you guys have told me? again - im not the most experienced with these things so t/y for bearing with me lol..





Try here first. No sense making all these fine folk retype all this lovely info....
All you need to know is right here.


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OfflineSystemOfADOWN
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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: Mycomyth]
    #5582778 - 05/02/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i understand there are FAQ's and teks. ive read through many of them. if you would have read my first post all the way through, you would have seen that i said i know what those methods are, but i would like you, the community, to just tell me what you would think my best options would be...thats not a reason to direct me to the faq...


Edited by SystemOfADOWN (05/02/06 07:37 PM)


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: SystemOfADOWN]
    #5582847 - 05/02/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've made a list of my favorite method of growing. The link is in my signature. My favorite method is this.

LC > Wild Bird Seed > Horse poo > Cased with 50/50 + then fruited in either a Tub or a greenhouse. Click the link in my signature and read through the teks.

Tubs are nice because they are really simple and completely self automated. However Green house/Martha set ups have way better air exchange and I like being able to remove my trays for harvesting and dunking.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: SystemOfADOWN]
    #5582848 - 05/02/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

SystemOfADOWN said:
i understand there are FAQ's and teks. ive read through many of them. if you would have read my first post all the way through, you would have seen that i said i know what those methods are, but i would like you, the community, to just tell me what you would think my best options would be...thats not a reason to direct me to the faq...




why waste the community's time when you can easily utilize the search feature and the mass amount of data on this site.


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: futurewolf42o]
    #5582859 - 05/02/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like he is just asking for some advice on what route to take. You can find lot's of info but personal opinions on what works best is great to hear too.


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: musher_420]
    #5582906 - 05/02/06 08:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

musher_420 said:
I've made a list of my favorite method of growing.  The link is in my signature.  My favorite method is this.

LC > Wild Bird Seed > Horse poo > Cased with 50/50 + then fruited in either a Tub or a greenhouse.  Click the link in my signature and read through the teks.

Tubs are nice because they are really simple and completely self automated.  However Green house/Martha set ups have way better air exchange and I like being able to remove my trays for harvesting and dunking.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.




:thumbup:


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OfflineSystemOfADOWN
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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5595872 - 05/05/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

musher - thanks man. ill be sure to check out your method, seems like your yeild is insane..


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: skeletor]
    #5596231 - 05/05/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

SystemOfADOWN said:
i would hope for somewhere around 5-10 ounces every month or two, every flush,




Quote:

XsXs said:
asking how to grow large amounts has nothing to do with dealing...please get your heads outta your ass..




You're damn right...HOWEVER...Wanting  to grow 100 pounds a MONTH...def. changes everything...

If SystemOfADOWN would have said
Quote:

and no, im stocking up - seriously. as i said due to security reasons, i had to shut my last grow down - i want to be able to store maybe up to a pound or more so i can fly throughout the year..


first.....then I'd def. not think it was a dealing question.

Calm the fuck down next time and please refrain from making assumptions without reasonable cause. :smirk:

:rotfl:

In reference to the original post...I'd go with Poo and a nice bulk grow...Either go with some mono-tubs or go with a Green house...:thumbup:

Good luck man :cheers:

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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #5596248 - 05/05/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Iggy is starting to sound like a Mod!~

:smirk:

give em hell Iggy!~



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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.



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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: Roadkill]
    #5596279 - 05/05/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:rotfl:

I thought i'd get in trouble for that one :shocked:

I just hate it when people around here get antsy and such. :evil:

Maybe it's just because a lot of people have the
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"mycelium growth blues..."




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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #5596363 - 05/05/06 11:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

lmfao @ mycelium growth blues

you have been reading the forum tonight.

:thumbup:


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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.



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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: Roadkill]
    #5596506 - 05/06/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I doubt smell would be a security concern if he was growing edibles... unless he shares a home with keen nosed portabello bandits


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Re: Ok, so i'm not a beginner, but i'm not an expert.. [Re: FluShu]
    #5596516 - 05/06/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:smirk:

After growing for awhile...Now I have a room-rador...No joke..I can actually Smell mushies...I've been right like 3/5 times so far :shrug:

That fresh mushroom right out of the jar smell...MMMMMmmm lol

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