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OfflineSirTripAlot
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What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    #5578913 - 05/01/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I guess oil and money arent that bad after all........


Schroder defends appointment in face of heavy criticism
31st March 2006

Former German chancellor Gerhard Schroder has been forced to defend his appointment as the head of the consortium building a controversial direct pipeline between Russia and Germany, having been bombarded with dissenting voices.

Leader of the German government until last year, Mr Schroder has just revealed that he will be paid E250,000 per year to head the project that will build a new pipeline to transport Gazprom gas straight to German shores.

The proposed new gas vein has caused much consternation in Europe, particularly the former satellite states that are due to lose out on income from not hosting portions of the pipeline on its route west. The controversial north gas pipeline (NEGP) will bypass the likes of Estonia and Poland, instead traveling across the seabed of the Baltic.

Meanwhile, Mr Schroder's ethics have been called into question due to his acceptance of the role in the venture which is majority bankrolled by Russian state gas outfit Gazprom. The former German chancellor said he could not understand the criticism and that the new pipeline was of huge importance.

The NEGP pipeline is to carry up to 55 billion cubic meters of natural gas annually, with the UK a possible future beneficiary


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5579225 - 05/01/06 09:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

how is this any different than Bush and cheneys connections?


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: vintage_gonzo]
    #5580541 - 05/02/06 06:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Nothing is different, why was the former chancellor so critical of the USA, when he is one in the same?????


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5580662 - 05/02/06 08:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It is different when a Bush hater flips out and rants obsessively about it on every message board on the interenet, but when a more objective person casually mentions it in a calm and discrete manner, then its the same.


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5580699 - 05/02/06 08:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

link?


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: OJK]
    #5580717 - 05/02/06 08:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5581599 - 05/02/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Anyone from Germany here, got a reaction to this?


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5581664 - 05/02/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, I think, everyone (here in Germania) thinks he has been corrupted and falls in the same trap as Bush.
He grew up quite poor, so he wasn't able to stand the corruption. Everyone here is embarrassed of the speed he joined gazprom. It is so obvious and that is why in the US there has to be some time, after your political activities, to join a major company. For good reason ! Here, everyone starts to wonder, that he prepared his job there while political active.
There are funny comedies here, where Schr?der appears and the reporter speaks about 'some unknown oil millionaire' :lol:
I never liked him, as he ever was a puppet, but it was the better alternative at that time. And he did one right thing at least: not joining the war.

Even, everyone can do what he wants in private, his morality sucks biig time ! But really, he was a simple and poor guy, and everytime known as the 'Genosse der Bosse' that means a 'comrade' (as he is socialistic), of the bosses. He always smiled and helped the big ones.
Now he revealed his personal ambitions...to simply get rich, on the expenses of others.
Did I say that he suucks biiig time ? :lol:
God bless he isn't into politics anymore.


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Edited by BlueCoyote (05/02/06 02:46 PM)


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5581852 - 05/02/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for your input, check the rating boards.....

Anyway, it looks like all the politicians are transparent, no matter what country they come from. It is funny how the USA gets a huge corruption rep, but at the same time it is just as rampant throughout the world.........


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5581868 - 05/02/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What's corrupt about this? He's unemployed and took a rather mediocre paying job supervising a construction project that will greatly benefit the German people


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5581933 - 05/02/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Schr?der campaigned on an anti-American platform and became exactly what his paranoid vision of America was. Most anti-Americans are liars and charlitans. Its amazing that people pay any attention to them.


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Luddite]
    #5584382 - 05/03/06 02:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Schr?der campaigned on an anti-American platform and became exactly what his paranoid vision of America was.  Most anti-Americans are liars and charlitans.  Its amazing that people pay any attention to them.




Good = America

Bad = Whoever stands in America's way

:hitlerdance:


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: quillini]
    #5584562 - 05/03/06 05:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Exactly my point, what a fucking hypocrite


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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5585336 - 05/03/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I was being sarcastic.

How exactly does Schroeder's hypocrisy vindicate that of Bush? Are you saying that Schroeder had no right to criticize the US? Perhaps he doesn't, but the rest of us do. You can try to discredit Bush bashers all you want, with blanket statements and whatnot, but that doesn't alter the truth of what we're saying.

Is it possible for "pro-Americans" to be liars and charlatans? Or can America do no wrong because we're ordained by God or whatever?


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5585868 - 05/03/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks SirTrips. I am not so much in politics, I simply shared my experience here.
I would have to look deeper, but I think to remember, that he used his soviet-friendly attitude in politics, to make the deals with gazprom first. After that and being private, he immediately became their chairman and gains big private money. For me, that stinks.
I don't think, feeding the fossil oil-base is beneficial for us germans here. We don't have much of our own oil and time is here, to stop this damned dependency. The arabs have enough swimming-pools in their desert. Did you know that no one has to work there ? They have so much money, that they don't know what to do with it ? Do you know the former fuel-price in iraq ? It was about 1 cent per liter !
And the big oil-companies already have gained enough money to deliver every remaining drop of oil on this planet. Bush only wanted to shut down his biggest rival in the oil deal (iraq) to shut down competition and dictate (rise) the prizes, as you see. This gains him a lot of private money as he is connected with the arabs and their main oil industry. Very simple economics.
My next car will be a vegetable-oil diesel. But our damned and greedy politicians want to raise the tax on this, instead of enhance its usage for the good independence of our country.
That double-stinks !


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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Edited by BlueCoyote (05/03/06 01:54 PM)


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5586416 - 05/03/06 03:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Thanks SirTrips. I am not so much in politics, I simply shared my experience here.
I would have to look deeper, but I think to remember, that he used his soviet-friendly attitude in politics, to make the deals with gazprom first. After that and being private, he immediately became their chairman and gains big private money. For me, that stinks.




Unless I'm misreading this or there is a mistake, I believe it said he was making 250,000 EU$. For comparison purposes, I offer this:
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For paying audiences, Clinton's speaking fees start at $100,000. No one is saying how many speaking paydays he has had since leaving office.



http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/july01/2001-07-10-bill.htm

Big money? Do you think he should be bagging groceries?
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I don't think, feeding the fossil oil-base is beneficial for us germans here. We don't have much of our own oil and time is here, to stop this damned dependency.



This is not for you to decide. Most of your countrymen disagree. If they did agree with you they would do what needs to be done to stop the use of fossil fuels, not the supply.
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The arabs have enough swimming-pools in their desert. Did you know that no one has to work there ? They have so much money, that they don't know what to do with it ? Do you know the former fuel-price in iraq ? It was about 1 cent per liter !




This is a direct pipeline to Russia
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And the big oil-companies already have gained enough money to deliver every remaining drop of oil on this planet.




Whatever this means. As has been exposed in another thread oil companies actually work on a relatively average profit margin and do not control the supply or price of oil. This would be the price gouging thread in this same forum.
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Bush only wanted to shut down his biggest rival in the oil deal (iraq) to shut down competition and dictate (rise) the prizes, as you see. This gains him a lot of private money as he is connected with the arabs and their main oil industry. Very simple economics.



BDS
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My next car will be a vegetable-oil diesel. But our damned and greedy politicians want to raise the tax on this, instead of enhance its usage for the good independence of our country.
That double-stinks !



Our greedy politicians make more money through taxation from oil than the oil companies
through taxation


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5586533 - 05/03/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

What does BDS mean ?
I was always on the concept, that politicians are to serve the peoples, not themselves.


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Re: What a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5586556 - 05/03/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

BDS=Bush Derangement Syndrome


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