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so_me_tuo
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syrain rue
#5578675 - 05/01/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I checked out erowid about mixing this stuff with tryptamines. my main intention was lsa lsd and mushrooms maybe 2ci(not a tryptamine). and salvia and nitrous. I was under the impression that it wouldnt effect the salvia or nitrous but I really have zero experiance with it. I couldnt find information on mixs with 2ci really wanted to know about that. how long does it stay in your system? how soon should you dose it before or after the other substance? are any of the listed combos dangerous interms of physical health. how much is a genrall dose I know its person specific but just your experiance. I weigh like 120 and am six feet. and very sensitive to most everything in human experiance.yea what do yall know about that.
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kaniz
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...... your looking to mix LSA, LSD, Shrooms, 2CI, Salvia, Nitrous in one session AND add Rue to the mix?
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mecreateme
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You sound young. Try and use each of the drugs by themselves. Especially if you are sensitive to them!? WTF?
Do you know anything about LSA/LSD? It doesn't appear you do if you are going to mix them.
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stemmer
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"Do you know anything about LSA/LSD? It doesn't appear you do if you are going to mix them". -------->no shit
At the very least you should take the 2ci and the nitrous out of the mix. Id kick the salvia out of the scenarion too.
Why wouldnt you just use maois the way they are supposed to be used? If you knew anything about syrian rue you would not be using 6 drugs along with it. I dont care if you have used rue before. I have used rue many times, and if you have not, dont fuck with the rue like that.
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drSE
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I'm sure he didn't mean mixing them all at once, that would just be straight retarded.
I don't know all too much about Syrian Rue, even though i have some, but I find some of the information that you find on it to be a bit confusing. Maybe I am just looking in the wrong place.
But I am also curious, and NO, I'm not going to mix 10 drugs with it at once either, so don't pounce on me like you did to so_me_tuo
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Re: syrain rue [Re: drSE]
#5579054 - 05/01/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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me and a buddy just ate 1 gram of shrooms each, i have syrian rue at home and was going to bring it along, but couldnt remember if it goes right with mushrooms.
how do you prepare syrian rue? just crush it up in water?
is an MAOI and mushrooms a good mix? or is an MAOI better with DMT?
thanks!
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kaniz
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I'm hoping he's asking how rue mixes with each of those things individually. ie: rue + lsa, or rue + mush, or rue + 2ci
and not all of them at once....
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drSE
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Re: syrain rue [Re: kaniz]
#5579110 - 05/01/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thats what i'm trying to say, i am sure that is how he meant for it to come out, he just worded it bad.
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stemmer
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Re: syrain rue [Re: drSE]
#5579123 - 05/01/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It would be impossible to take them all at the same time, Im sure he had his own plan.
I just dont treat my brain like that. 2ci and maois is a bad idea. Anyone who knows how rue works would likely stay away from even just 2ci mixed with maois. Its just a matter of how much you want to change your brain functions for a long time. Maois basically fuse your drug of choice to your synapses. I personally have taken some very high doses of most drugs including ayahuasca, and I would not take that mix he mentioned no matter what the dose is with each drug. Take the maois out of the scenario....., I would do that if the time was right, but I certainly wouldnt use nitrous, maybe a good fat bowl of weed though. There is nothing wrong with using lsd with lsa, or mushrooms with lsd or lsa(both even), infact thats just about my favorite mix. Mixing any of those combinations with rue Would be a very good idea for some. They all work together very well like lsd and mescaline, or mescaline and mushrooms. Id just recommend that when using rue you dont use rc's, nitrous or salvia. There are many reasons for that, but my post is long enough as it is.
Agouthead----> rue works best witheither of them. Dmt is more traditional and likely has been for 1000s of years.
Dmt and mushrooms are EASILY potentiated by rue, and depending on how much rue you consume, the rue has its own amazing effects as well. I personally eat the rue(chewed thoroughly, but most people dont like that super effective method). If not that, then I boil them in a small amount of water if I plan on taking any sort of tea after the rue.
Edited by stemmer (05/01/06 09:35 PM)
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so_me_tuo
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Re: syrain rue [Re: stemmer]
#5579398 - 05/01/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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no not at the same time at all. just curious if you guys had done any of that. I have done mushrooms,dxm,nitrous,salvia and that last time I did had an experiance in the realm I took a low dose of lsd and a low dose of mushrooms which was a really mind blowing experiance. I just wanted to know what was up with rue is all really. I do have all of the mentioned things in large quanity and was wanting to experiment. deffinatly not doing them all at once. just wanting to know there interactions from experiance. I did want to mix rue I just dont know anything about it. I do know it pontenates but that is pretty much all I know about it. I know that moderation is the key. so yeah explain rue to me in more detail
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shneck
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Here it is in, so_me_tuo, as I understand it:
- monoaminoxidase (MAO) is an enzyme that destroys certain amines in the organism, either completely or to some extent - beta-carbolines are a group of indole alcaloids that inhibit monoamidoxidase - hence MAOI - rue is a naturally occuring source of beta-carbolines (namely, harmine and harmaline). - when a psychedelic drug belonging to some amine group enters the organism, MAO destroys it either completely or to certain extent - if taking an amine psychedelic is preceded by consumption of an MAOI the drug is not destroyed or depleted (since MAO is inhibited), and becomes active (or more active)
So, that's more or less accurate description of what rue does and I guess you know it yourself, but just in case.
Now, you just have to check whether the drug you take belongs to an amine group and/or is affected by MAO. So, orally ingested DMT is completely destroyed and psilocin/psilocybin partially degraded by MAO. Rue almost completely inhibits MAO and prevents degradation of tryptamines and makes them (more) active. In this way rue may also potentiate LSD, mescaline or meth, for example.
On the other hand, rue does not influence directly mj since THC is an acid oil which is not affected by MAO. Same goes for Salvinorin A, nitrous, morphines, barbiturates, cocaine, etc. In some cases, eg. ibogaine, the results of experimenting with rue can be extremely sad. Also, you MUST at least go to Erowid and check the dietary restrictions carefully (judging by your first post, you have already done it, still).
And finally some links: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ci/2ci_basics.shtml http://www.tripzine.com/listing.php?smlid=387
Good luck and be careful.
Edited by shneck (05/02/06 06:36 AM)
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