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Offlineheadbig
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casing wont pin
    #5576678 - 05/01/06 09:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well its been 2 weeks and not one pin. 50/50 about 1/2 inch with 2 inch of substrate. temps 68-76, rh dont know but there is slight condensation, i use a air pump and fan twice daily, its deff not overlayed. myc has stopped growing and looks very good but no pinning/knotting in sight. what should i do. should i dunk it and wait more?

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Re: casing wont pin [Re: headbig]
    #5576828 - 05/01/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

what do you do for humidity?

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Re: casing wont pin [Re: ebass]
    #5576834 - 05/01/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I would wait


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Re: casing wont pin [Re: headbig]
    #5576839 - 05/01/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

condensation doesnt mean there is humidity. all that means is theres a temp. difference from inside your FC and the outside temp. What are you doing for humidity and you NEED to get a hygrometer.


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Re: casing wont pin [Re: LSD_rules]
    #5576923 - 05/01/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

lsd, condensation is a sign of humidity. having slight condensation is a sign that your humidity is fine where as having the walls of your chamber drippng with water is a sign that its way to high. a temp diffenence is needed for condensation, humidity is needed for condensation

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Re: casing wont pin [Re: headbig]
    #5576984 - 05/01/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

condensation just means that the temp. inside your FC is warmer/cooler than outside air. So when warm water molecules hit the side of a cool chamber (due to cool climate outside) the water molecules will slow down and become water again from vapor and condense on the sides. If it's humid in your container, there will be a damp feeling on the sides.  Just because there's lots of condensation DOES NOT specifically mean there is humidity. You might have humidity, but isn't it worth knowing for sure? Get a hygrometer :smile:


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Re: casing wont pin [Re: LSD_rules]
    #5577009 - 05/01/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

lsd its not my humidity. "If it's humid in your container, there will be a damp feeling on the sides. Just because there's lots of condensation DOES NOT specifically mean there is humidity" and what you are saying cancel its self out. lsd in the past few days ive seen you ask serveral newb questions and your just repeating what one person said to you. i know my humidity is fine. THE PROBLEM IS NOT MY HUMIDITY.

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Re: casing wont pin [Re: headbig]
    #5577022 - 05/01/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

haha, jesus man, you need to chill. yea, i am repeating what I have learned earlier. I asked questions and i learn from my own mistakes. Don't you? This is how people learn, they acquire info. then spread it to others. All I was doing was giving away some knowledge, but you shit on it while i try to be nice. Seems like you KNOW what you're doing so good luck. Your humidity is fine, everything must be fine right....thats why your casing wont pin... dickless shit. good luck :smile:


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Re: casing wont pin [Re: LSD_rules]
    #5577058 - 05/01/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

your just spreading info i learned in 5th grade. i can tell the diff between humid air and stale air. i dont need a hydrometer to tell me my perlite is working. i made 3 post all of them saying my humidity is fine. but you keep telling me its my humidity.

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Re: casing wont pin [Re: headbig]
    #5577065 - 05/01/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

no man, i didnt say it was your humidity thats responsible for no pinning. read my posts again dude, obviously u READ something wrong. funny you learned all that in 5th grade, but cant learn to understand simple sentences :smile:. i was just correcting you that condensation doesnt always mean theres humidity. you need to calm the fuck down dude. learn to take some correcting nicely. if you think im wrong, no need to bash at me fool. theres obviously something wrong with your technique and you just need to find an approach that works. or just wait a bit longer for your fucking pins man.  take care :smile:


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Re: casing wont pin [Re: LSD_rules]
    #5577106 - 05/01/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ok i ask for help getting my casing to pin and you reply with nothing but post about my humidity and im not supposed to think your suggesting its my humidity. and i dont need to calm down you do. all i said is that you asked serveral noob questions on humidity in a matter of 2 days and i would rather get help from someone who knows what there talking about. but no you keep going on about humidity. MY HUMIDITY IS FINE. STOP TELLING ME ABOUT HUMIDITY.

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Re: casing wont pin [Re: headbig]
    #5577109 - 05/01/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

so anyways, about your humidity.... :smile:


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Re: casing wont pin [Re: headbig]
    #5577112 - 05/01/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Whats the temp?


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Re: casing wont pin [Re: LSD_rules]
    #5577113 - 05/01/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

your fucking retarded

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Re: casing wont pin [Re: headbig]
    #5577115 - 05/01/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

my temps have been 75 by day and the lowest was 68 at night

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Re: casing wont pin [Re: LSD_rules]
    #5577121 - 05/01/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

whatever man. here, maybe you should try this to help your casings pin. Mix up some 50/50. stir it up in a really large bowl, mix in enough water to get it nice and moist. Put on some latex gloves. and stick all of that up your ass. Within days you'll feel pins form. Never tried it myself, but i feel you might have a lot of luck with it.


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Re: casing wont pin [Re: headbig]
    #5577126 - 05/01/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Good to see that we're all very mature. I hate to say it, but LSD is right, but he didn't explain it clearly enough I guess. If you have (some) condensation on the sides of your FC, that doesn't accurately tell you how much humidity you have in your FC, all it tells you is that any airborne moisture that has passed by the cool walls of the FC became water. Naturally, this also implies that the more humidity then the more condensation, but it is by no means accurate since condensation depends on a difference of temperatures between the FC and your room. The only time the condensation on the sides of an FC is an accurate indication of internal humidity is when the sides are constantly pouring down, that means you have an RH of 100% or something very close to it. But if you insist:

No condensation - RH too low
little condensation - RH a slight bit too low
alot of condensation - RH a little to high
pouring condensation - RH way to high (for casings @ pinning stage)

But I recommend you get a hygrometer if possible, will remove potential problems for you in the future as well.

To answer your initial question, humidity is not your problem because your casing layer should contain enough moisture to do atleast one "so-so" flush on its own (without any good humidity levels). As far as I know, the three main conditions for pinning are temp (at around 74-78), humidity (around 82%-89%) and transpiration (fanning atleast twice a day with light misting afterwards). Is there a chance that you over misted a little bit and thereby slowing the pinning process? Overall, I recommend just waiting, the casings I'm just finishing up took just over 2 weeks from the casing step to pinning.

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Re: casing wont pin [Re: DT2K]
    #5577144 - 05/01/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: casing wont pin [Re: DT2K]
    #5577164 - 05/01/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

fuck it im done here. how many times must i say my himudity is fine but people keep screaming it. this is a geat place full of dumbasses like lsd who cant listen. my humidty is fine, im using a small ass tub and you can easyly feal humidity. im using perlite, after i added a bubbler the walls of its were drenched, i got rid of the bubbler. my humidity is fucking fine. but it seems this dosent stick in peoples head.MY HUMIDITY IS FUCKING FINE

Edited by headbig (05/01/06 12:49 PM)

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Re: casing wont pin [Re: headbig]
    #5577180 - 05/01/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

someone lock this its going no were. i wanted a little help but that seems like to much

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