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OfflineOldWoodSpecter
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Hi there
    #5576670 - 05/01/06 09:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've been away for a while, don't even know how long

does anyone remember me here at all?

well anyway, just though I'd say hi to you all..


It has been about 7 months since I've lowered myself into the everyday world, and I must say, at least in my case, the philosophy, spirituality and life are exclusive.
Living life is like a stage role, which you irrationally play, and when you stop living and think about it, then the role seems ridiculous so you can't play it any more, and when you continue to play it, you forget all about the thoughts and meaning and once again you take the role and take it for granted.
In short, It seems there is nothing about life that requires thinking about when you live it, and when you think about it there is little to live for in life exept existence itself.

Hope I'm making sense..

Well anyway, don't know what happened but I'm slowly dropping out of "life" again, that's where the urge to come to this place again came from.

I remember while I was in the middle of the "game" I remembered this place a few times thought: what a waste of time, what is there to talk about so much, life is so straightforward.
And now I remembered my old self again, and feel as if I'm slipping away into some other dimensions of existence far away from THE GAME.

The trouble is, I'm not a bird, so I have to stay focused in this world in order to solve the existential issues. But somehow as I feel that as my mind is slipping way, and all I see is sun rays, nature, smells of spring, peace etc , I'm starting to not care about who pays the bills and what shall I eat tomorow.
I feel like non of it matters, that I'd be happy somewhere out in the nature eating roots and stealing apples and smelling the rain.

How does one fight for something that doesn't matter to him?

Wars are always won by those who have their heart put into the battle, the mercenaries always lose because they do it for money and not out of fanatism.

Same here, I feel I'll lose it compleatly and become homeless or something just because I'm fighting for nothing, for a word, an outside picture, while inside I really don't care what happens with me existentially. My biggest existential ambition at the moment is getting to sleep till 11am, the rest is lukewarm drifting in clouds of imagination

What are you thoughts on all this?


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine


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Invisibledorkus
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Re: Hi there [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5576715 - 05/01/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Welcome back. :smile: I was just looking at some posts of yours a couple days back, wondering where you went and hoping you'd return. I missed your posts.


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Invisiblemoog
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Re: Hi there [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5576735 - 05/01/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

at least in my case, the philosophy, spirituality and life are exclusive.

You and life are not separate. You ARE life. This is life right now, your experience of reading these words. So when you are meditating or doing so-called spiritual things, that is life too.

The life that you're referring to is the ego, and that is not LIFE. The idea of life is just that: a concept, an abstraction, a belief system.

Whatever you are doing at this one moment, that is life. There are entities that don't exist on this world we know. Does that mean they're not living? No, whatever existence you find yourself in, wherever you are, whatever you find yourself doing, that is life. It doesn't have to fit into a belief system, either yours or anyone else's.

And yes, i remember you! Glad you are back.  :sun:


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Re: Hi there [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5576764 - 05/01/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Welcome back, man. :wink:

:headbang: :sun: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

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OfflineBlueCoyote
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Re: Hi there [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5576776 - 05/01/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I missed your posts too. For me, I struggle every day too and came to the conclusion that priorities for the paybill workers have changed. Now for them it will take big effort to settle down on a piece of land and support themselves. That is seen as kind of luxury for the city-people.
As I was in the Philippines before 5 years on holiday, I could still see the opposite mentality. People living happy on the land, without money, but everything they need for supporting their basic life, kids running around and young people and most of them dream of going into the city for 'better life' what is combined with money. 80% of them are ending in the slums (one of the biggest) and suffer a hopeless life.
Now, I try to achieve some kind of good compromise..not relaying on paybills work too much, shit on career and try to get healthy and in contact with nature again on my own. This is becoming a feedback loop, where I can get the positive feelings and ideas into work again and blow all the paybill-heads minds there, :lol:
:heart:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'


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Re: Hi there [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5576790 - 05/01/06 10:45 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Welcome back, Edgar!  :heart:

I think I understand where you are coming from.  My life is very "programmed," as in having to be places at a certain time almost every day, having two kids to care for, lots of paperwork, chores, errands, full-time work, etc... etc...  I sometimes daydream about the years I spent living on a 5-acre farm surrounded by 1000 acres of protected forestland.  I lived outside from daybreak until dark, ran the deer trails through the forest, read books in my treehouse, played with our goats and rabbits, watched tadpoles in our pond, gazed at the movement of the wind in the tall grasses.  I was homeschooled, so I never had to be somewhere at a certain time, and I rarely knew what time it was.  During the rainy winter, I read stacks of books, designed and constructed doll clothing and furniture, played games with my little brother, wrote to pen pals all over the world.

After living that way for so long, it is difficult to resign myself to the rat race.  :sad:

The good news is, I'm leaving my full-time job this week, starting part-time work as a Nanny, and launching my own business.  I'll have time to relax with my kids, and my best girlfriends' kids, and I'll be earning more money!  I'm looking forward to lazy nature walks with the kids, playing in the park, drawing pictures, making fruit salad...la dolce vita!  :sun:


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OfflineOldWoodSpecter
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Re: Hi there [Re: moog]
    #5576905 - 05/01/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

moog said:
at least in my case, the philosophy, spirituality and life are exclusive.

You and life are not separate. You ARE life. This is life right now, your experience of reading these words. So when you are meditating or doing so-called spiritual things, that is life too.

The life that you're referring to is the ego, and that is not LIFE. The idea of life is just that: a concept, an abstraction, a belief system.

Whatever you are doing at this one moment, that is life. There are entities that don't exist on this world we know. Does that mean they're not living? No, whatever existence you find yourself in, wherever you are, whatever you find yourself doing, that is life. It doesn't have to fit into a belief system, either yours or anyone else's.

And yes, i remember you! Glad you are back.  :sun:




well, ok, you can call it life or ego

but that's what keeps the nature going. All animals play that game, and so do humans, if they stopped playing that game they would be instinct because that game consists of:

1. fighting for sex (procreation)
2. fighting for food
3. fighting for social acceptance and emotional ties (human love if you will)
3. fighting for power, which helps the previous 3

well anyway, that's what makes nature live, evolve..


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine


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Re: Hi there [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5577192 - 05/01/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Heeyyyyyyyy :cool: I was just thinking about you this morning! I remember two springs ago I got hit with serious slippage you are talking about. Often, driving became a concern.

What a Great feeling it is though. I loved it more then anything else I have experienced here.

However, it's not practical or functional to be floating around out of body while embodying the physical. It took me a year to get back down and in. There are still times I make like a helium balloon and catch myself slipping out and on the quick rise. Thats when you realize how heavy, needy and awkward these bio body space suits are to lug around.

I was talking with gomp a ways back about working on changing my torque ratios in my chakra gears for better energy efficiency and he said, "Mine gears are stripped". :lol: Total slippage. :rofl2: :thumbup: :heart:

I was thinking about you because I was going to put up a poll to see how many here believe the neurotic vengeful, jealous, judgmental control freak godman of the bible was actually a group of ETs messing around here. I could only recall you being open about voicing that understanding. There must be more.

I get tired of mentioning something like Christs Consciousness and getting lumped in with people who believe in the Bible Literally. I wish more would speak up on alternate understandings to show more of the actual colorful diversity within the black and white around here, ya know, bust up so many of the old molds.

Anyway, nice to see you around. :smile:


:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.


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Invisiblemoog
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Re: Hi there [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5577360 - 05/01/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

1. fighting for sex (procreation)
2. fighting for food
3. fighting for social acceptance and emotional ties (human love if you will)
3. fighting for power, which helps the previous 3




Yes, but... if you move beyond this, are you not still living life? Are you not still part of nature? You have to expand what your idea of life consists of...


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Re: Hi there [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5577454 - 05/01/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ya i remember you. i'm not sure what it was about, but we either debated with or against each other in a very long extensive thread once.

my guess is it had something to do with christianity or morality


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Re: Hi there [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5577685 - 05/01/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:


I was thinking about you because I was going to put up a poll to see how many here believe the neurotic vengeful, jealous, judgmental control freak godman of the bible was actually a group of ETs messing around here. I could only recall you being open about voicing that understanding. There must be more.

Anyway, nice to see you around.




Hi there Jiggy

Once you put this God into such a context he is no longer bad, just a scientist with faults like any other, having to destroy failed creations. In that context, we are only someone elses technology, on such high level that we don't even recognise it as technology. And like all machines, the faulty ones are destroyed.
Is there something immoral about destroying your faulty prototype robot? If consciousness is something sacred comming from some uber god, then yes, but if YOU are that god, and the consciousness is something you made yourself, then no, you set the rules.
People just take it so personally, it's nothing personal, some of us are just a honest mistake, so the creator might want to correct that mistake by not alowing us to be spread.
If you make ants with a fault, how do you correct the mistake? Well you step on them so they don't multiply, then you put others in their place, or pick out those who don't have the mistake.
It sounds cruel, but it's the only way.


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine


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OfflineOldWoodSpecter
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Re: Hi there [Re: moog]
    #5577697 - 05/01/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

moog said:
Quote:

1. fighting for sex (procreation)
2. fighting for food
3. fighting for social acceptance and emotional ties (human love if you will)
3. fighting for power, which helps the previous 3




Yes, but... if you move beyond this, are you not still living life? Are you not still part of nature? You have to expand what your idea of life consists of...




well you are obviously alive, and living a life, but life in a broader sense of the word.
When I say "life" I ment the behaviour of animal life.
Most people think they are above animals, but what people do all their lives is exactly the same kind of stuff animals do:
build houses, collect money, raise families, make friends, make enemies, gain power, respect etc etc.
But humans are the only species on the planet who has some rare individuals who can see through it all, who can actually step out of the game. It maybe just another form of animal behaviour, but it is certainly a new level not previously seen in other species


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine


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Re: Hi there [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5579125 - 05/01/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Basically I agree with much of what you are saying here. Humans and other animals are operating from the same place for the most part and even though humans have a more developed brain it seems they still do not rise often above basic animal nature because they are FAST ASLEEP. And please do not try and wake them because they become very nasty and ornery.  :grin:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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