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Gumby
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Quitting smoking.
#5576058 - 05/01/06 12:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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So I've decided to quit, for health reasons(duh). I've smoked for about 9 years on and off. In the last 6 years I've been smoking close to a pack a day.
Qutting is driving me fucking crazy. I'm not addicted to nicotine, I've never had the physical symptoms of withdrawal. No irritablity, no headaches, none of the typical symptoms assoicated with nicotine withdrawal. What I do get are INTENSE cravings to smoke. Like I said, not for the nicotine. I just love the feeling of the smoke going down my throat and into my lungs.
It's become a habitual thing... I smoke when I drive, smoke when I wake up, smoke after meals, or smoke after periods of heavy physical exertion.
My question to you is this: How do you get over the mental aspects of quitting smoking?
From a scientific point of view, I know antidepressants help a lot with cigarette withdrawal, but do they help with the cravings? I remember my freshman year in college, I was on Welbutrin and it really made me just not want to smoke. I had no desire for it. But I'd like to avoid antidepressants.
So what tips do you have for someone who wants to quit smoking? What do I do about cravings, from a mental aspect?
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576069 - 05/01/06 12:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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take some 5htp it helps with cravings
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Whenever you get the craving to smoke another cigarette... smoke a jay.
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AliceDee
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smoke weed instead
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Gumby
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: AliceDee]
#5576097 - 05/01/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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AliceDee said: smoke weed instead
Can't do that. Live with the parents and they're not cool with it. Aside from that, I've applied to seveal jobs that reqire drug testing
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576105 - 05/01/06 01:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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get a hookah and smoke shisha... much cleaner and has no tar and .5% nicotine... a bowl will last 45-60 minutes too, after one session your good for a couple hours you dont have to keep taking cig breaks...
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: AliceDee]
#5576109 - 05/01/06 01:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh ya and you wont smell like shit all the time, there are 100's of flavors of shisha...
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: AliceDee]
#5576115 - 05/01/06 01:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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hookah = amazing.
I bought one, one of the best investments I've made so far...In fact I think I may fire one up right now!
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: AliceDee]
#5576181 - 05/01/06 01:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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AliceDee said: get a hookah and smoke shisha... much cleaner and has no tar and .5% nicotine... a bowl will last 45-60 minutes too, after one session your good for a couple hours you dont have to keep taking cig breaks...
I've smoked a hooka before. How do you figure it has no tar? I coughed my lungs out the day after smoking a hooka.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576195 - 05/01/06 01:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576200 - 05/01/06 01:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gumby said: I've smoked a hooka before. How do you figure it has no tar? I coughed my lungs out the day after smoking a hooka.
thats what it says on the shisha package...
0.0% Tar 0.5% Nicotine
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: AliceDee]
#5576277 - 05/01/06 03:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just because it doesn't have tar doesn't mean it's not harmful to your body. You will still have carcinogens smoking shisha.
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The key to quitting is to find a replacement that doesn't require a lighter. I replaced my old habit with running and the only thing i'm burning now is calories.
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for what it's worth here is my advice on quitting.
1. when you feel like a ciggie put it off for 5 minutes - just tell yourself "I will wait 5 minutes before I have one".
2. If you have a great day like maybe only one or two then have a shit day and smoke a pack, don't give yourself a hard time, be nice to yourself and tell yourself that tomorrow will be better.
3. get a hobby that uses your hands and your attention like. playing guitar or painting or making stuff.
4. eat shit food instead of smoking, you might gain a few pounds while you substitute but you can always start running once your lungs have cleared.
5. be nice to yourself - if you slip every now and then, it's ok.
6. this one works for me every time. Get bronchitus or pneumonia. Every time i've had this I have quit smokeing for months - after the pneumonia I quit for a couple of years!
7. remember that nicotine is 4x more addictive than heroin (this is not just a figure I pulled out of my arse, it is a fact!), so don't give yourself a hard time about lack of will power. Just stick with it and sooner or later you will quit.
8. Don't forget to be nice to yourself. No yelling at yourself when you have a ciggie. Just chill and next time you want one just put it off for 5 or 10 minutes, often you will just forget to have one.
Hope this helps
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Roker]
#5576388 - 05/01/06 05:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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good luck man thats some hard stuff ive been a over a pack a day smoker for like 6 years now and a pack every two days for 5 before that i think its time for me to quit
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576404 - 05/01/06 05:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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What I do get are INTENSE cravings to smoke. Like I said, not for the nicotine. I just love the feeling of the smoke going down my throat and into my lungs.
You are addicted to nicotine, seriously. Your body wants it and and therefor it seems pleasurable to inhale smoke. Conclusion: YOU ARE ADDICTED TO NICOTINE. stop being in denial 
Now I'[m goin to tell you what the best way is to quit smoking. It is scientifically proven!
Quit spontaneously and cold turkey, not planned or building down the number of smokes a day. For example dump your left over ciggies right now when you read this post.
Just keep in mind the cravings don't last and it's over sooner than you think it will be. Also find other activities to replace the smoking with because half of the addiction is the habit!
good luck man, be strong 
oh and ofcoarse there is also tar in shisha smoke. Any smoke that you inhale is bad for you.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576418 - 05/01/06 05:52 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Try sunflower seeds.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: ivi]
#5576429 - 05/01/06 06:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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all good advice.
I quit cold turkey since my mind and body woke itself up at 3 am for a ciggy, I've stopped ever since.
educated yourself on why you are quitting. look at dirty tar ridden lungs, look at all the people dead from these things, and other ways to have ideas ready when a craving hits.
the best one I've heard here was when you ahve a craving, wait 5 min, you'll learn to forget about them.
and as said before, be nice to yourself!!! good luck mate!
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Roker]
#5576489 - 05/01/06 07:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Roker said: for what it's worth here is my advice on quitting.
1. when you feel like a ciggie put it off for 5 minutes - just tell yourself "I will wait 5 minutes before I have one".
2. If you have a great day like maybe only one or two then have a shit day and smoke a pack, don't give yourself a hard time, be nice to yourself and tell yourself that tomorrow will be better.
3. get a hobby that uses your hands and your attention like. playing guitar or painting or making stuff.
4. eat shit food instead of smoking, you might gain a few pounds while you substitute but you can always start running once your lungs have cleared.
5. be nice to yourself - if you slip every now and then, it's ok.
6. this one works for me every time. Get bronchitus or pneumonia. Every time i've had this I have quit smokeing for months - after the pneumonia I quit for a couple of years!
7. remember that nicotine is 4x more addictive than heroin (this is not just a figure I pulled out of my arse, it is a fact!), so don't give yourself a hard time about lack of will power. Just stick with it and sooner or later you will quit.
8. Don't forget to be nice to yourself. No yelling at yourself when you have a ciggie. Just chill and next time you want one just put it off for 5 or 10 minutes, often you will just forget to have one.
Hope this helps
This is somewhat good advice...
You have to be mad at yourself and get determined about not smoking, so the attitude about not beating yourself up over it won't work for most..
Edited by Booooom (05/01/06 07:23 AM)
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: stefan]
#5576490 - 05/01/06 07:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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stefan said:
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Quit spontaneously and cold turkey, not planned or building down the number of smokes a day. For example dump your left over ciggies right now when you read this post.
I concur. Quitting cold turkey really is the best. Look at it this way: Whenever you postpone a cigarette break, you are in fact planning on having it in the near future. You are telling yourself you're quitting, but in reality you're not. Quitting means stopping, here and now.
So grab your pack, look at it, and ask yourself, what action are you going to take?
"It's like jumping into a pool of cold water, the second you drop in, it's shockingly freezing and uncomfortable. But after a while, you're body will regulate its temperature."
Same thing with quitting.
Good Luck.
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Everytime you want a cigarette but don't have the opportunity to smoke some weed instead, just chew some gum. I quit smoking back in November after smoking for almost 13 years and if it wasn't for the gum, I would never have made it. Bascially I'm replacing my addiction to cigarettes with an addiction to gum. But hey, at least gum won't give me lung cancer.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: adrug]
#5576763 - 05/01/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Day by day... Just tell yourself, I'll have one tommorow. That's what worked for me. ..."I'll have one tommorow" perpetually.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Bikerfool]
#5576770 - 05/01/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i talked to a guy last night that smoked 2 packs a day and he said he got acupuncture and has been clean for a week
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Bikerfool]
#5576775 - 05/01/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bikerfool said: Day by day... Just tell yourself, I'll have one tommorow. That's what worked for me. ..."I'll have one tommorow" perpetually.
That reminds me of a pizza place down by my work. They have this sign hung up on the front saying "Free Pizza Tomorrow".
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the local hooters has one of those, only its "Free Beer Tomorrow"
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576787 - 05/01/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I went to lights. That was my big move to keep from quitting right away. It's working, in as much as I don't cough as much, it's definitely a step in the right direction.
Once I feel completely acclimated to lights, I'll either jump to ultra lights or start cutting down the number per day. Cold Turkey has never worked, so I'm trying something new, can't hurt.
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i never said shisha is HEALTHY! of course its bad for you just not AS bas as ciggs...
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: AliceDee]
#5576914 - 05/01/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I quit smoking cigarettes over a week ago, but I do smoke a cigar every day. I love nicotine, and I see no reason to quit that. But intentionally drawing toxic smoke over my tender bronchioli and alveoli 15 times a day is inexcusable. Cigars are tastier and require no inhaling. Last night I drank few beers and the urge to smoke a cigarette was insanely overpowering, but fortunately I wasn't around any. After that experience, I don't think I should be going to a bar to drink any time soon. I'd end up bumming smokes off people all night!
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It is a shame because quitting smoking sometimes means a 20 lb weight gain. Is it better to smoke than to be fat??
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5577072 - 05/01/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh yeah, drinking water might help out. every time you get a craving, drink a glass of water. when i was in basic training, i drank water when i wanted a smoke. it became second nature.
plus, drinking water is good for you, keeps you hydrated and all that. if your piss isnt almost clear, you should probably drink at least 1 cup just to get you hydrated.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5577289 - 05/01/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Buy a pack or two of Pall Malls or some other nasty cigarette. Chain Smoke them all, and you will never want a ciggarette again. If you don't feel like doing that, certain areas give away free nicotine patches, because my friend you ARE addicted to nicotine. Good Luck, becuase God knows that I do not have the will power to quit. Peace
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5577617 - 05/01/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Never knew you smoked Gumby.. I have had a problem with it for years also. I find that temporarily replacing it with something that can keep your hands or mouth busy can help. I don't really get that irritable when i don't smoke either, it's just that i get used to smoking when I'm sitting still or bored. That makes it harder to just sit and relax without smoking. Best luck to quitting. Feels like my hands have to be doing something. Even if you slip up, don't give up.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: eris]
#5577754 - 05/01/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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here's how i quite smoking,
1. first go can buy some copahegan( i am suggestion copaheg because it is the strongest as far as nicotine, beleive it or not chewing its harder to get your nicotine) chew, the burbon flavored stuff.
you could also try redman golden blend loose cut stuff in the big pouch it is another favorite of mine.
it will take you about a week to learn to chew it right and then about a week later you will be able to lay the cigs down.(this is chewing about 3 times a day)
2. at this point you can switch over to skoal and try all there flavors, some are very tasty like berry blend is a fav.
3. next now that your onto skoal, you need to move onto pouches these pouches give you very small hits of chew, it will be a little hard converting to these, but its not to bad.
4. now that your onto lower levels of chew, it will be a snap to quite chewing, all you need to do now is to buy sunflower seeds....or beef jerky...anything to keep your mouth moving....and during yoru cravings do something to keep your mind or body bizzy...i play video games but im a nerd.
do these steps and you won't fail...just make sure you don't chew anymore than 3 or 4 times a day.
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Quote:
Left Nut City said: Is it better to smoke than to be fat??
Given an option between the two, I'd say smoking is more unhealthy than being overweight. Of course, that's not to say being overweight isn't unhealthy as well.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Le_Canard]
#5577800 - 05/01/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nobody will love you if you're fat though, so you'll probably off yourself at christmas after not getting any presents for the third time.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5594348 - 05/05/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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How is it going?
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: ivi]
#5594402 - 05/05/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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So far, I've cut back a lot. I typicaly manage 4-5 cigarettes a day as compared to 20 a day. I think I might go buy some nicotine gum so that I can just quit smoking for good. I'm already feeling healthier after cutting back.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5594531 - 05/05/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're going to be craving a cig sooooo bad after chewing that gum for a day! *Cold Turkey*
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5811686 - 07/02/06 04:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea Gumby i would suggest just quitting cold turkey. It's really the only way. Don't get the patch cause it's still putting nicotine into your system.The idea is to stop putting nicotine into your system. Don't smoke tobacco. The only way i'll smoke anything with tobacco in it is if i'm smoking a blunt, MAYBE a spliff with SOME tobacco in it. But certainly not like a half and half sorta deal. I just won't.
You quit becuase you want to quit, cause it's nasty and really bad for you. it will kill you and other people, and the government is making money at your healths risk, on your dime, and your life. It's expensive and... something i learned today, a bidproduct of a burning cigarette is Cyanide. You and people around you are breathing cyanide when you smoke...
It might relieve stress and relax you but so does like, screaming and warm showers and running and sex and music and chocolate. The positives of smoking are easily replacable.
Also the damage smoking does to your health in comparison to your health 5 or 10 pounds heavier than what you are now is WAY more. Smoking cigarettes is DEFINITLY worse than gaining 5 or 10 pounds.
I've quit for about 4 days, i had my last cigarette tuesday night. I quit for now and have been saying all of this to myself everytime i think of not smoking as a bad thing. a lot of it is mental. you have to get yourself to stop thinking of it as a deprivation but as a good thing that you stop smoking. You ARE doing yourself a favor. I wish you luck.
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