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Gumby
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Quitting smoking.
#5576058 - 05/01/06 12:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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So I've decided to quit, for health reasons(duh). I've smoked for about 9 years on and off. In the last 6 years I've been smoking close to a pack a day.
Qutting is driving me fucking crazy. I'm not addicted to nicotine, I've never had the physical symptoms of withdrawal. No irritablity, no headaches, none of the typical symptoms assoicated with nicotine withdrawal. What I do get are INTENSE cravings to smoke. Like I said, not for the nicotine. I just love the feeling of the smoke going down my throat and into my lungs.
It's become a habitual thing... I smoke when I drive, smoke when I wake up, smoke after meals, or smoke after periods of heavy physical exertion.
My question to you is this: How do you get over the mental aspects of quitting smoking?
From a scientific point of view, I know antidepressants help a lot with cigarette withdrawal, but do they help with the cravings? I remember my freshman year in college, I was on Welbutrin and it really made me just not want to smoke. I had no desire for it. But I'd like to avoid antidepressants.
So what tips do you have for someone who wants to quit smoking? What do I do about cravings, from a mental aspect?
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DeathCompany
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576069 - 05/01/06 12:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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take some 5htp it helps with cravings
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jjuussttiinn
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Whenever you get the craving to smoke another cigarette... smoke a jay.
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AliceDee
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smoke weed instead
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Gumby
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: AliceDee]
#5576097 - 05/01/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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AliceDee said: smoke weed instead
Can't do that. Live with the parents and they're not cool with it. Aside from that, I've applied to seveal jobs that reqire drug testing
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576105 - 05/01/06 01:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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get a hookah and smoke shisha... much cleaner and has no tar and .5% nicotine... a bowl will last 45-60 minutes too, after one session your good for a couple hours you dont have to keep taking cig breaks...
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AliceDee
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: AliceDee]
#5576109 - 05/01/06 01:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh ya and you wont smell like shit all the time, there are 100's of flavors of shisha...
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: AliceDee]
#5576115 - 05/01/06 01:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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hookah = amazing.
I bought one, one of the best investments I've made so far...In fact I think I may fire one up right now!
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: AliceDee]
#5576181 - 05/01/06 01:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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AliceDee said: get a hookah and smoke shisha... much cleaner and has no tar and .5% nicotine... a bowl will last 45-60 minutes too, after one session your good for a couple hours you dont have to keep taking cig breaks...
I've smoked a hooka before. How do you figure it has no tar? I coughed my lungs out the day after smoking a hooka.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576195 - 05/01/06 01:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576200 - 05/01/06 01:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gumby said: I've smoked a hooka before. How do you figure it has no tar? I coughed my lungs out the day after smoking a hooka.
thats what it says on the shisha package...
0.0% Tar 0.5% Nicotine
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: AliceDee]
#5576277 - 05/01/06 03:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just because it doesn't have tar doesn't mean it's not harmful to your body. You will still have carcinogens smoking shisha.
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AlteredAgain
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The key to quitting is to find a replacement that doesn't require a lighter. I replaced my old habit with running and the only thing i'm burning now is calories.
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Edited by AlteredAgain (05/01/06 04:27 AM)
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for what it's worth here is my advice on quitting.
1. when you feel like a ciggie put it off for 5 minutes - just tell yourself "I will wait 5 minutes before I have one".
2. If you have a great day like maybe only one or two then have a shit day and smoke a pack, don't give yourself a hard time, be nice to yourself and tell yourself that tomorrow will be better.
3. get a hobby that uses your hands and your attention like. playing guitar or painting or making stuff.
4. eat shit food instead of smoking, you might gain a few pounds while you substitute but you can always start running once your lungs have cleared.
5. be nice to yourself - if you slip every now and then, it's ok.
6. this one works for me every time. Get bronchitus or pneumonia. Every time i've had this I have quit smokeing for months - after the pneumonia I quit for a couple of years!
7. remember that nicotine is 4x more addictive than heroin (this is not just a figure I pulled out of my arse, it is a fact!), so don't give yourself a hard time about lack of will power. Just stick with it and sooner or later you will quit.
8. Don't forget to be nice to yourself. No yelling at yourself when you have a ciggie. Just chill and next time you want one just put it off for 5 or 10 minutes, often you will just forget to have one.
Hope this helps
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Roker]
#5576388 - 05/01/06 05:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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good luck man thats some hard stuff ive been a over a pack a day smoker for like 6 years now and a pack every two days for 5 before that i think its time for me to quit
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576404 - 05/01/06 05:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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What I do get are INTENSE cravings to smoke. Like I said, not for the nicotine. I just love the feeling of the smoke going down my throat and into my lungs.
You are addicted to nicotine, seriously. Your body wants it and and therefor it seems pleasurable to inhale smoke. Conclusion: YOU ARE ADDICTED TO NICOTINE. stop being in denial 
Now I'[m goin to tell you what the best way is to quit smoking. It is scientifically proven!
Quit spontaneously and cold turkey, not planned or building down the number of smokes a day. For example dump your left over ciggies right now when you read this post.
Just keep in mind the cravings don't last and it's over sooner than you think it will be. Also find other activities to replace the smoking with because half of the addiction is the habit!
good luck man, be strong 
oh and ofcoarse there is also tar in shisha smoke. Any smoke that you inhale is bad for you.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Gumby]
#5576418 - 05/01/06 05:52 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Try sunflower seeds.
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: ivi]
#5576429 - 05/01/06 06:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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all good advice.
I quit cold turkey since my mind and body woke itself up at 3 am for a ciggy, I've stopped ever since.
educated yourself on why you are quitting. look at dirty tar ridden lungs, look at all the people dead from these things, and other ways to have ideas ready when a craving hits.
the best one I've heard here was when you ahve a craving, wait 5 min, you'll learn to forget about them.
and as said before, be nice to yourself!!! good luck mate!
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: Roker]
#5576489 - 05/01/06 07:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Roker said: for what it's worth here is my advice on quitting.
1. when you feel like a ciggie put it off for 5 minutes - just tell yourself "I will wait 5 minutes before I have one".
2. If you have a great day like maybe only one or two then have a shit day and smoke a pack, don't give yourself a hard time, be nice to yourself and tell yourself that tomorrow will be better.
3. get a hobby that uses your hands and your attention like. playing guitar or painting or making stuff.
4. eat shit food instead of smoking, you might gain a few pounds while you substitute but you can always start running once your lungs have cleared.
5. be nice to yourself - if you slip every now and then, it's ok.
6. this one works for me every time. Get bronchitus or pneumonia. Every time i've had this I have quit smokeing for months - after the pneumonia I quit for a couple of years!
7. remember that nicotine is 4x more addictive than heroin (this is not just a figure I pulled out of my arse, it is a fact!), so don't give yourself a hard time about lack of will power. Just stick with it and sooner or later you will quit.
8. Don't forget to be nice to yourself. No yelling at yourself when you have a ciggie. Just chill and next time you want one just put it off for 5 or 10 minutes, often you will just forget to have one.
Hope this helps
This is somewhat good advice...
You have to be mad at yourself and get determined about not smoking, so the attitude about not beating yourself up over it won't work for most..
Edited by Booooom (05/01/06 07:23 AM)
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Re: Quitting smoking. [Re: stefan]
#5576490 - 05/01/06 07:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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stefan said:
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Quit spontaneously and cold turkey, not planned or building down the number of smokes a day. For example dump your left over ciggies right now when you read this post.
I concur. Quitting cold turkey really is the best. Look at it this way: Whenever you postpone a cigarette break, you are in fact planning on having it in the near future. You are telling yourself you're quitting, but in reality you're not. Quitting means stopping, here and now.
So grab your pack, look at it, and ask yourself, what action are you going to take?
"It's like jumping into a pool of cold water, the second you drop in, it's shockingly freezing and uncomfortable. But after a while, you're body will regulate its temperature."
Same thing with quitting.
Good Luck.
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