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Invisibledblaney
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Re: dear god [Re: fearfect]
    #5586223 - 05/03/06 03:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

my first edict is that it must exist and I must either know that it exists or have strong reason for it to exist

Do you exist? Yes or no?

Go from there.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: dear god [Re: fearfect]
    #5586899 - 05/03/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Jesus is not the one you love with all your heart and soul - it is God, the Absolute Reality - the Holy One that lives within us, not Jesus. Jesus was merely an awakaned individual. I don't know what to tell you man, but you're not on the path to enlightenment and self-realization if you can't use your God-given imagination for a single moment. If you see Love as nothing more than a meaningless chemical interaction/reaction, there is no hope for transformation (at least at this moment). Maybe in time you'll see the higher (metaphysical) nature of kindness and compassion, but not right now. I don't know, maybe you're culturally fatigued with Christianity? Try studying Hinduism or something. There are as many paths to the Holy One as there are people.

Peace, and good luck on your search.


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"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."


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InvisibleIcelander
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Re: dear god [Re: Basilides]
    #5587128 - 05/03/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think you're both wrong and it is your Saintly Mother that you should worship.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: dear god [Re: Icelander]
    #5587150 - 05/03/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:rasta:


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Re: dear god [Re: Basilides]
    #5587215 - 05/03/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:girl:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: dear god [Re: Icelander]
    #5587231 - 05/03/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

:orly:


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Re: dear god [Re: Basilides]
    #5587245 - 05/03/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"Jesus wept"


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: dear god [Re: fearfect]
    #5588071 - 05/03/06 10:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

One day when you eat a lot of mushrooms you will understand. The reason you do not understand what people keep telling you, this "mumbo jumbo" as you call it, is because you have confused words with reality. The bible was never meant to be taken literally. You have been taught that there is a material world and that God was an anthropomorphic thing that created the universe out of some material.

You say that "Love is a chemical reaction" as if that were actually explaining something. What is a chemical reaction? What are those chemicals made of? What are the atoms made of? What are the sub-atomic particles made of? What does it mean to say that something is made of something? Things aren't made, they exist.

God is everything and because it has everything it needs nothing more and so it loves itself. To love something (something being all that there is) is to love god and be with him. If you want to find a way to find God, start by loving his creation and not being angry at him. In fact, being angry at God is to not accept reality. If you trust that everything is good and as it should be, as it really is, then you will have no reason to doubt God's love. I am not claiming to be superior to anyone or to know God, you can take what I am saying or leave it.

However, you should get this idea of an anthropomorphic god out of your head. God cannot be known intellectually. When you find God, it won't really a thought like "oh, God is THAT", it will be a feeling. You will just feel it in every fibre of your being. At a higher level of consciousness, it becomes obvious that all you that you pride yourself on knowing is nothing more than being able to put words on things but behind the words is just pure unfiltered being and you are not seperate from it.


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Re: dear god [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #5588081 - 05/03/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thou art that. :thumbup:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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